Hot Toys DX Anakin Skywalker (EP3)

[VintijDroidGutzz]

Yeah, agreed Sol.

A Vader cult would be cool though..

 

[lerath666]

There is no good way to bring back Vader or the Emperor. Both of them need to stay dead and in the past.

Yeah, agreed Sol.

A Vader cult would be cool though..

Which is still going into scooby-doo teritory. it's not a jump for the cult leader to dress like him, or claim to be him reserected, or some other such foolishness.

While i don't WANT that... i wouldn't nessacaraly hate it if its done well.

Personaly, I agree, Vader needs to stay dead. But I'm setting my standards and expectations VERY LOW this time.

 

[Travis Baumann]

It was a WHILE ago. before abrams was involved. The new films are based Looslely on a "treatment" lucas wrote around the time of ROTJ. MY understanding is it's VERY minimal stuff, a page, possibly two.

At one point Dark Horse announced that their writers had been brought in to consult along with Del Rey so that the timelines remained consistent with what had already been done.

George at one time spoke of a 9 part saga, this next section being the final three he initially thought of but from what I remember, it was a very basic "treatment"/outline type of thing.

 

[Travis Baumann]

There is no good way to bring back Vader or the Emperor. Both of them need to stay dead and in the past.

The Dark Empire trilogy already did all that (Emperor had clone factories cloning himself and then his "force ghost" transferred bodies). Luke eventually gets sucked into all this, turns bad for a bit, etc.

This was my least favorite novel/comic story ever. I rewatched Jedi a few days ago and the Emperor definitely "blows up" in a blast of force where I swear for a second my brain makes Vader go X-ray for second... He should stay dead.

The Crimson Empire I/II series however was great, playing up the vying members of the remaining council/Moffs as well as giving us a look into the mysterious red-clad guards.

I really hope they do NOT do the Yuzhon Vong invasion though. While the Invasion comics are really good, I never liked the bio-organic aliens from another galaxy (they remind me of Predator and Aliens combined but with living weapons, not super original for SW).

 

[sithlord13]

I always just imagined the reborn emperor was a flash imprinted clone no more.

Please let the new films start after all the books. I can sacrifice legacy thou.

 

[automaton]

i think bringing back Palpatine is a very viable option... not as a clone, but as a force ghost. i would love to see Ian Mcdiarmid give the book end performance to Alec Guinness' from the OT... the spirit of the Sith befriending and seducing the young Solo child... the relationship between Luke and Obi Wan is the OT's greatest chemistry... as the idea of a Jedi Knight was built from the ground up, the reemergence of the Sith can be mirrored in the same way.

i would love to see more moments such as the Opera scene in ROTS... or the scene between Obi Wan and Luke after Yoda's passing in ESB... i want to see the baton passed and when considering the next generation of Star Wars fans waiting to be born, i want to see them experience "a beginning".

 

[Travis Baumann]

Thing with that is, the Sith usually only mentor if they have something to gain from it... The apprentice eventually kills his master. That being said, they have done similar things with past Sith basically being trapped in artifacts and then pretty much taking control of the owner so that was their gain.

There are so many awesome Sith over the years of comics and books I for one am all for NEW villains. I love Palpatine but I think 6 films of him is enough for me.

 

[VintijDroidGutzz]

Which is still going into scooby-doo teritory. it's not a jump for the cult leader to dress like him, or claim to be him reserected, or some other such foolishness.

True.. but context is everything.

 

[automaton]

Thing with that is, the Sith usually only mentor if they have something to gain from it... The apprentice eventually kills his master. That being said, they have done similar things with past Sith basically being trapped in artifacts and then pretty much taking control of the owner so that was their gain.

There are so many awesome Sith over the years of comics and books I for one am all for NEW villains. I love Palpatine but I think 6 films of him is enough for me.

i hear what you are saying, but i think if done right, Palpatine could bridge the gap concerning a more in depth look at the force. i would love to see his insight after 'death"... his role would obviously be limited as a force ghost... but this is where Ian Mcdiarmid would shine. Solo's dark side temped child would basically be the "Luke" of the next trilogy... and if done right, perhaps we would all question the line between the light and dark side of the force.

the Jedi too the force too literally... the Sith took it to too far of an extreme... there must be a greater sense of enlightenment from beyond... we have seen the science of the force in the PT... the faith of the force in the OT... perhaps now it is time to really get to the meat of it.

 

[lerath666]

The Dark Empire trilogy already did all that (Emperor had clone factories cloning himself and then his "force ghost" transferred bodies). Luke eventually gets sucked into all this, turns bad for a bit, etc.

This was my least favorite novel/comic story ever. I rewatched Jedi a few days ago and the Emperor definitely "blows up" in a blast of force where I swear for a second my brain makes Vader go X-ray for second... He should stay dead.

The Crimson Empire I/II series however was great, playing up the vying members of the remaining council/Moffs as well as giving us a look into the mysterious red-clad guards.

I really hope they do NOT do the Yuzhon Vong invasion though. While the Invasion comics are really good, I never liked the bio-organic aliens from another galaxy (they remind me of Predator and Aliens combined but with living weapons, not super original for SW).

Strictly speaking, the vong war happens roughly 16 years after Jedi. this film is ( appearently) set 30 years after. so the vong war is long gone.
IF THEY EVEN CHOOSE TO ACCNOLEDGE IT, the presence would be very minimal.

Personaly, I'm hoping the only mention of the vong, is that " Chewie, Anakin, and Jacen died fighting enemies of the republic". Keep it vague so EU haters don't explode.

Thing with that is, the Sith usually only mentor if they have something to gain from it... The apprentice eventually kills his master. That being said, they have done similar things with past Sith basically being trapped in artifacts and then pretty much taking control of the owner so that was their gain.

There are so many awesome Sith over the years of comics and books I for one am all for NEW villains. I love Palpatine but I think 6 films of him is enough for me.

BANE'S SITH kill their mentors. rule of two and all that sillyness. Darth Bane's way is not the ONLY way of the sith. "traditional " ( IE Sith that do not follow the rule of two) Don't Allways kill their mentors... unless they have something to gain from it ...

 

[yongkykun]

I just hope it's not going to be another cg creature flick with substandard story that made the biggest revelation in Ep 5 completely redundant.

 

[Sidious-66]

Yeah I will keep my expectations on the low side for these new movies like someone mentioned earlier in the thread.

My main focus is only the movies so I really know nothing about the EU so I'm open to seeing new stuff in the movie.

In regards to Palpatine I'm torn as he is my favourite SW character and on one hand I think he should remain dead and on the other hand I like the idea mentioned of the 'ghost' idea.

Ian was fantastic as Palpatine and I feel he could add a lot of good to the movie but I would only like to see him in the new movies if it actually adds something to them and not casting him for the sake of it.

Wasn't there a book series set after ROTJ about Palpatine son coming out of the woodwork and people looking for Vader's glove?

 

[Travis Baumann]

Strictly speaking, the vong war happens roughly 16 years after Jedi. this film is ( appearently) set 30 years after. so the vong war is long gone.
IF THEY EVEN CHOOSE TO ACCNOLEDGE IT, the presence would be very minimal.

Personaly, I'm hoping the only mention of the vong, is that " Chewie, Anakin, and Jacen died fighting enemies of the republic". Keep it vague so EU haters don't explode....

I guess you're right there but I wonder if they can deal with Chewie being gone... It seemed to stretch on for a long time and by then Mara Jade and so many are already gone. It seems if they don't ignore it, there are some substantial characters missing.

BANE'S SITH kill their mentors. rule of two and all that sillyness. Darth Bane's way is not the ONLY way of the sith. "traditional " ( IE Sith that do not follow the rule of two) Don't Allways kill their mentors... unless they have something to gain from it ...

You are right there as well but as far as the Sith we know from the the six movies and eras immediately around them, they still follow the Rule of Two. Prior to Bane (I am reading the first novel now in that series, pretty cool) the Old Republic era had hundreds of Sith and then again in Legacy, Darth Krait abolishes the Rule of Two. It is funny in those books that the galaxy lasted a second when you see what just two of them can do at a time! Good thing for the Jedi their infighting weakens them.

 

[lerath666]

Yeah I will keep my expectations on the low side for these new movies like someone mentioned earlier in the thread.

My main focus is only the movies so I really know nothing about the EU so I'm open to seeing new stuff in the movie.

In regards to Palpatine I'm torn as he is my favourite SW character and on one hand I think he should remain dead and on the other hand I like the idea mentioned of the 'ghost' idea.

Ian was fantastic as Palpatine and I feel he could add a lot of good to the movie but I would only like to see him in the new movies if it actually adds something to them and not casting him for the sake of it.

Wasn't there a book series set after ROTJ about Palpatine son coming out of the woodwork and people looking for Vader's glove?

"The glove of Darth Vader" it was, if i remember correctly, a "young readers" book... and one of the not so great pieces of SW EU material that is no longer canon.

I guess you're right there but I wonder if they can deal with Chewie being gone... It seemed to stretch on for a long time and by then Mara Jade and so many are already gone. It seems if they don't ignore it, there are some substantial characters missing.




You are right there as well but as far as the Sith we know from the the six movies and eras immediately around them, they still follow the Rule of Two. Prior to Bane (I am reading the first novel now in that series, pretty cool) the Old Republic era had hundreds of Sith and then again in Legacy, Darth Krait abolishes the Rule of Two. It is funny in those books that the galaxy lasted a second when you see what just two of them can do at a time! Good thing for the Jedi their infighting weakens them.

Mayhew hasn't been tapped to come back and play him as far as we know.

Chewie was OLD in the old movies. PERSONALY, I hope they replace him with a different alien, or another wookie.

Lowbacca, Wookie jedi would be my top pick.

The last rule of two sith were Vader and Sidious. They died. All that is left are "True" sith.

 

[Travis Baumann]

Quoting 666:
Chewie was OLD in the old movies. PERSONALY, I hope they replace him with a different alien, or another wookie.



In one of the books I have Leia is a Jedi and she is hanging with a Trandoshan Jedi, that was pretty cool.

I saw Mayhew at Wondercon this year and he is in a wheelchair most of the time, not sure even if Chewie were in the movie he would be up for it.

I have to say I was really bothered by Yoda being with Chewie on Kryyshk in ROTS. Chewbaca never really let on that he and Yoda met in the OT (because they hadn't!) so it seemed really odd that he wouldn't have known who Ben was, about Jedi, or any of that other stuff by the time we "catch up with him" in ANH. I know it is a small point but it bothers me. I cringe everytime I watch it and Yoda says "Goodbye Chewbaca", I just want to punch something.

 

[lerath666]

You sure it's a Transdoshan, and NOT Saba Sebatine, the Barabel?

similar to transdoshan's but they do have several differences that ARE important. one of which is that Barabel have tails.

 

[Travis Baumann]

I can't remember... I am at work right no so cant look. I think it was either "Agents of Chaos II" or "Tempest". I thought for sure they said it was a Trandoshan but it has been a while since I read it, maybe it was a similar saurian race. Either way, it was cool, I wanted to get an extra body for my Bossk and use the extra (calm head I use the snarling one on him now) for a Jedi kitbash based on the book.

 

[Travis Baumann]

Actually I bet you are right, I just did a search and I think it was:

"Saba Sebatyne was a female Barabel Jedi Master of the New Jedi Order"

 

[lerath666]

Yup, If its agents of chaos or Tempest, it's Saba. it's also worth nothing that Saba is the one who trains leia to be a jedi

 

[yongkykun]

In keeping with the continuity of the OT, the fights will be slow paced like two old men trying to beat each other with a stick then? What do you guys think?