Hot Toys DX Bespin Luke Skywalker

[King Darkness]

Like Jagger?

 

[Rorywan]

Luke was a whinny **** like his father before him..

What? Rory I respect you but...

No man, quite serious. As you know I spend quite a bit of time photographing my dollies and I collect quite a wide range of figures.
There is a change for the worse in the HT headsculpt "look" recently. Not for the better I'm afraid. I actually
thought at first it was a paint app thing but some of the more knowledgeable freaks on the board pointed out it was a molding issue.
A lot more detail is being softened/lost in whatever process change HT is using. I have Capt:Rescue, Gordon, Red Skull and I know
that personally as much as I like the figures, the look of the headsculpts bothers me. I know I'm not alone in this, OMG was particularly scathing of
the Nick Fury head for the same reason. And now it seems Avengers Hawkeye is the same. When I have been photographing the figures it's
become increasingly obvious, especially with a macro lens that there has been a change. Not all the recent releases have had this look though (baby doll/keaton Bats for eg).
And I'm really hoping Luke doesn't as it's an absolute grail set for me.

Two **** iphone pics to demonstrate the look I'm talking about...
I'm sure to a lot of people this isn't a problem, and I must stress I'm not talking about the artistic integrity of the sculpt,
but the end process/look. Have a check around some of the other threads and you will see the same conversations happening.


I never thought HT heads look toyish, even the earlier ones, these do IMO. And ironically just when HT tailoring is really improving.

 

[Cap'n Cook]

Couldn't agree more. Hawkeye's hair noticeably suffers also and he has just been released.

 

[Rorywan]

Couldn't agree more. Hawkeye's hair noticeably suffers also and he has just been released.

Yeah, everything seems to have a weird "vinyl", doll look?

 

[shocktrooper_au]

Certainly notice the difference between those and their older figures I have, hopefully Luke will be up to past efforts

 

[Rorywan]

Certainly notice the difference between those and there older figures I have, hopefully Luke will be up to past efforts

Exactly.

Quite a large jump backwards IMO. Now I will leave the conversations before the fanboys light their torches and start tying their ropes!

 

[SixthScaleEdward]

First two pics have the heads greatly distorted.

T-800 is slightly farther from the camera and is angled, avoiding the distortion to make it look weird



just saying

But, your criticism of these heads while you praise the 1/4 EB Batman
makes me excited that I'll be blown away by that 1/4 fig.

 

[Rorywan]

First two pics have the heads greatly distorted.

T-800 is slightly farther from the camera and is angled, avoiding the distortion to make it look weird



just saying

But, your criticism of these heads while you praise the 1/4 EB Batman
makes me excited that I'll be blown away by that 1/4 fig.

Not talking about distortion, not talking about angles, talking about detail and sculpt which is why its relevant to take the
most unflattering raw pics possible.


Not an exercise in photography..

https://sideshowcollectors.com/forums/showthread.php?t=114782

 

[TheFiend]

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You can really tell on Cap. Look at his lips! Man, that's not good. I haven't bought any new HT figures since Batman and Joker 89. Luke will be my first one since then. I hope he doesn't have this new "look". Not digging it at all.

 

[Platty]

Not to spread the panic even further but I agree, they have definitely dropped in quality IMO. I hope all figures don't have this from now on, not just Luke and the DX12 and the other stuff I have on order.

 

[pixletwin]

All this sculpts and paint jobs look great to me.

 

[stshammgod]

If the heads looks softer, it's probably a change in the materials used. They could be using a more translucent material. Like one that is TOO translucent. That would account for some apparent loss of detail. They may be using the material as a substitute for skintone, and coupled with that, really seems lackluster.

 

[Chubs&Doggers]

If Luke's HS looks like this I will be greatly disappointed. I was a huge fan of HT but not so much of late. They seem to have taken on way to much and what they built there reputation on now seems in jeopardy. Quality

 

[Deak Starkiller]

No man, quite serious. As you know I spend quite a bit of time photographing my dollies and I collect quite a wide range of figures.
There is a change for the worse in the HT headsculpt "look" recently. Not for the better I'm afraid. I actually
thought at first it was a paint app thing but some of the more knowledgeable freaks on the board pointed out it was a molding issue.
A lot more detail is being softened/lost in whatever process change HT is using. I have Capt:Rescue, Gordon, Red Skull and I know
that personally as much as I like the figures, the look of the headsculpts bothers me. I know I'm not alone in this, OMG was particularly scathing of
the Nick Fury head for the same reason. And now it seems Avengers Hawkeye is the same. When I have been photographing the figures it's
become increasingly obvious, especially with a macro lens that there has been a change. Not all the recent releases have had this look though (baby doll/keaton Bats for eg).
And I'm really hoping Luke doesn't as it's an absolute grail set for me.

Two **** iphone pics to demonstrate the look I'm talking about...
I'm sure to a lot of people this isn't a problem, and I must stress I'm not talking about the artistic integrity of the sculpt,
but the end process/look. Have a check around some of the other threads and you will see the same conversations happening.


I never thought HT heads look toyish, even the earlier ones, these do IMO. And ironically just when HT tailoring is really improving.

Agree to disagree my friend, allow me to post some of my own photos that illustrate my point.


Hot Toys Captain America Rescue Uniform Version by Deak Starkiller, on Flickr


Hot Toys the Red Skull 1/6th scale action figure by Deak Starkiller, on Flickr

All this sculpts and paint jobs look great to me.

I agree 100%! I mean jeez, remember a few years ago?

 

[Cap'n Cook]

Those additional photos further prove the 'softness' of the sculpts.

 

[dsokyra]

Why, when I was your age, we bought a Han figure that looked like Randy Quaid with Down's syndrome and we liked it! Now you kids talk about your sculpts being too soft, BAH!

 

[Deak Starkiller]

Those additional photos further prove the 'softness' of the sculpts.

Where you see softness I see subtlety. If Hot Toys isn't good enough for you, then I wonder what makes the grade? I'd hate to hear what you think about SSC!

 

[Rorywan]

Agree to disagree my friend, allow me to post some of my own photos that illustrate my point.


Hot Toys Captain America Rescue Uniform Version by Deak Starkiller, on Flickr


Hot Toys the Red Skull 1/6th scale action figure by Deak Starkiller, on Flickr

Nice photo's Deak, I will post a few of my own below (and I tried in natural light to get as much detail out of these heads as possible). As SnakeEater says I can completely see that same "soft vinyl" look in both your pics and mine. Listen, I just posted in regards to the discussion a few pages back, and as I said, not everyone will have an issue with this. To me at least it seems very obvious that there is a new semi-gloss, tan colored look to these new heads. Personally I don't like it, but each to their own.

Some of my pics, and I have the same issues with all of these...

1: Tan colored faces, 2: slightly shiny texture giving a vinyl look, 3: some dotted paint application to give the impression of detail, 4: rounded soft hair sculpt.

Why, when I was your age, we bought a Han figure that looked like Randy Quaid with Down's syndrome and we liked it! Now you kids talk about your sculpts being too soft, BAH!

What age do you think I am smart ***?

If we cannot have a civil discussion about this then that's the end.

Those additional photos further prove the 'softness' of the sculpts.

Exactly. I guess some folk just don't see it.

We are discussing: A NEW LOOK TO HT HEADSCULPTS, not these figures are great or these figures are ****. Obviously judging by the previous page or two, other feel the same.
Oh god, why does it always go like this after about 3 posts when someone points out something negative about HT?

 

[Rzeznikk]

Where you see softness I see subtlety. If Hot Toys isn't good enough for you, then I wonder what makes the grade? I'd hate to hear what you think about SSC!

Im not going to get into a whole debate with these folks, but yeah some people are WAY to picky in this hobby. To which Im happy Im so easily pleased otherwise Id probably want to put a bullet in my head.

"Screws fall out all the time. The worlds an imperfect place".

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[andrewm]

does this also have to do with the comparison shots of professor x from the last two shows? they two heads are completely different.

this?
https://sphotos-b.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-prn1/524454_10151200057085801_905752729_n.jpg