Dally
Super Freak
After long thought I've decided to brave the high Ebay prices and get this sucker now. I'm going to order him on Monday.
Hot Toys - IRON MAN - MARK III PHOTO Thread
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Flamebo
Freakalicious
Hey guys!
I'm a newbie when it comes to 1/6 figures! I own a few 12" military figures and one by HT. I've pre-ordered both the Mark II and the Mark III in September @ HT's retail store in HK. The Mark III is going to be my first 1/6 movie/comic character. I've been waiting for so long and was so anxious to get it when I was in HK during the Winter Holiday. (It was scheduled to release in 2008 Q4) *I saw the prototype/sample @ their retail store also and it's really nice!* However the figure once again got delayed. I also learned about HT releasing the Mark III in different lots. But the thing that bothers me the most is the fact that they could sell part of the first lot to people that just walk into their store paying for more than what was originally asked for instead of giving them to those that had pre-ordered them. From a business stand point well it's nice for them because they can get profit, but moral wise I think that is horrible of them to do something like this. I mean they've already delayed the figure for a long long time and those that had pre-ordered had paid their deposit for a while. They don't even update the situation on the release being seperated into different lots. I actually had to call their retail store to find about the whole situation.
At least as of now the bright side is that hopefully when I do get mine, the Ironman will be the revised one and won't have the issue of the flap not being able to open.
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creecher
Such is Life - Ned Kelly
There's nothing wrong with them selling their figures at a higher price through their own shop. Just change the way your looking at this and your frown will be turned upside down.
One thing. The prices people pay, when pre-ordering, are discounted prices. A special price for taking the chance on their product sight unseen, except for a few pics of a proto type.
Second thing. A retail shop costs a heap more than running an online business. This is why items can be cheaper online, because overheads are much lower.
Another thing. It's their one and only retail store, if they don't have it first then there's something wrong.
One more thing. No one misses out. That's the main thing.
There's more things, but I just don't have the time right now.
Hot Toys customer communication and information sucks, eh, but what ya gonna do? At least they have a newsletter now, so things must be improving.
One thing. The prices people pay, when pre-ordering, are discounted prices. A special price for taking the chance on their product sight unseen, except for a few pics of a proto type.
Second thing. A retail shop costs a heap more than running an online business. This is why items can be cheaper online, because overheads are much lower.
Another thing. It's their one and only retail store, if they don't have it first then there's something wrong.
One more thing. No one misses out. That's the main thing.
There's more things, but I just don't have the time right now.
Hot Toys customer communication and information sucks, eh, but what ya gonna do? At least they have a newsletter now, so things must be improving.
kinqcuonq
Super Freak
creecher
Such is Life - Ned Kelly
Most enjoyable. Thanks.
$135
I take back all that stuff about cheaper on line, overheads etc. I've been sucked in by all the internet hype. 
I hope my pre-order is still secure. Where's mah discount???
$135
I take back all that stuff about cheaper on line, overheads etc. I've been sucked in by all the internet hype. I hope my pre-order is still secure. Where's mah discount???aussieinnyc
Super Freak
Not to speak for another member here, but their post does specifically say that they pre-ordered it at HT's retail store in Hong Kong. So as far as I'm concerned HT shouldn't be giving product essentially bought in their store (just as a pre-order) to people who choose to walk in off the street and buy one at the expense of others who have already purchased it through them.
If Flamebo had purchased it through a third party, then I agree with your post. But since it seems to state they went through HT themselves I think your argument doesn't apply here.
creecher
Such is Life - Ned Kelly
Oh come on aussie. I took back all that stuff already. Have a heart.
Three lots. First goes to Hot Toys store, who will send them out to those that pre-ordered and some for folks walking in off the street. I think that's fair. Not for me to argue their policies or way of doing business, though I reserve the right to disagree with them, just as you have done. I think that's fair too.
Three lots. First goes to Hot Toys store, who will send them out to those that pre-ordered and some for folks walking in off the street. I think that's fair. Not for me to argue their policies or way of doing business, though I reserve the right to disagree with them, just as you have done. I think that's fair too.
noisetrigger
Super Freak
Got my Iron Man Mark 3 today. Pics suck again cause I got home late. Better pics tomorrow I promise.
This has been one of the most anticipated figure last year which was originally slated for an October release but got pushed back a few times probably because Hot Toys wanted to concentrate on the TDK line. Now that HT are mostly done with the TDK line, it's Iron Man turn to shine and does it shine.
Firstly, the good stuff. The most striking thing you will notice is the paint job or the shine on the paint job. He is not metal but every inch of the figure has a shine to it and that gives it a really metallic armour look. It must be noted that the paintjob is different than the prototype. The prototype has a brighter siesta red going on but the final product is more marooned.
This is totally movie accurate. All other Iron Man movie related product released so far (Bust, statue, hasbro movie line, has the same colour scheme going on. HT got the colour wrong in the prototype. Even the box shows Iron Man in the siesta red colour scheme. This could be a good or bad thing depending on who you asked.
One crowd prefers the prototype more comic accurate paint scheme while another crowd prefers the movie accurate paint scheme. But judging by how nitpicky the crowds here are about accuracy, the final paint scheme will pleased many.
Second thing you will notice is the amount of crazy detail for Iron Man. This thing is no doubt the most detail Iron Man movie figure out there so far. I will go as far as saying that the only other thing more detail that this is the movie CGI. Even the actual prop isn't as detail (the actual movie costume was CGI enhanced greatly). This figure honestly renders the statue that was release last year obsolete because it looks more detail and has a better paint job than the statue and this Iron Man is articulated. You will not be stuck with just one pose anymore.
Thirdly, you will notice Iron Man is quite light. He weights about the same a typical HT figure. He is mainly made from plastic but with this figure, HT made a few brilliant innovation in the construction. Iron Man is extremely articulated for a suit of armour and that has a lot to do with the used of mix media in the construction of this figure.
Despite being mainly plastic, certain key portions such as the waist, hip, and neck are made from soft PVC. This allows the figure to be more articulated and also being able to posed more naturally because of the flexible material. What's more amazing is how HT managed to match the paint job of the soft PVC perfectly with the plastic parts.
The only part that did not match well is the elbow area. It's rubber instead of PVC (because rubber is even more softer than PVC) and as you can see from the pic, the paint job doesn't match the rest. I guess with rubber being the main material, it will be impossible. Luckily, it's a very minor unnoticeable part and you can now bend the arms to 90 degrees while still hiding the joints.
Speaking of joints, all the joints are very well hidden and tight. Iron Man will have no trouble holding any pose standing or mid air. The knees are double jointed and as you all can see from numerous pics by now, he can do the ground pounding pose. Overall he is as articulated as a Predator.
One impressive gimmick with Iron Man is the light up eyes, reactor, and hands. Then way HT go about this while still being able to change heads and hands (we get three sets) are just amazing. Basically the peg at the neck post and arms are leds. It's such a simple and brilliant design. The leds are also very bright and will look impressive enough in any picture.
The drawback are the switches on both arms. It's really obvious and really the only thing that kills the illusion that this the real thing. HT could have come up with a better placement for the switch. The switch for the eyes and reactor are better hidden at the back inside one of the flaps. It is again quite obvious when you look at it from behind with the flap opened.
The flaps on the legs and back opens (once again movie accurate) and showing some impressive detailing, especially the leg section. HT even has different colour for each individual wire. When it comes to detail, no one can beat HT at their game.
Another gimmick is the arm missile. It's a minor but really cool addition. It is however missing the shoulder gun gimmick. It's all CGI in the movie and will be complicated but possible on this figure but I guess at this pricepoint, we are already getting more than what we are paying.
The RDJ head is spot on but not as impressive as BR Joker or TF. To me the problem is the choice of expression. Tony Stark was never that serious in the movie and I really can't remember him having such as expression. TDK Bale is a great sculpt but also suffers from the same problem of a dead serious expression that you can't find in the movie.
As you can see from this pic, the head looks very well proportion contary to earlier belief that the body might be to lean. With the RDJ head on, it looks believe enough to me that this is indeed a man wearing a form fitting armour.
In this pic, you can see that Iron Man is only slightly bigger and taller than Batman. I guess one might expect Iron Man to be much bigger than taller but looking at the DVD again, Iron Man isn't that tall or big. It's the comic Iron Man that's tall and big.
There are a few things to take note of. Maybe it is due to the nature of the paint job but it is quite impossible to find one that has the perfect paint job. There will be one or two minor really small smudges on the armour. It's especially more common on the PVC section. There are also some plastic scar where they cut the part from the runner. Most of them are really small or well hidden and basically unavoidable.
As a modeler myself, the only way to get rid of the scare is to sand it down, fill it with putty and then sand it again. It will be unrealistic to expect this level of personal attention on a mass produced figure.
The paint job so far is holding up well even after much posing and playing. It's hard to tell at this point whether it will last. But to me there is nothing wrong with a little wear and tear cause Iron Man in the movie is a little worn also.
There is also talk of the minor QC problem with the back leg flap, namely the right leg. It can't extend at high at the one on the left. The problem is really minor. Basically the factory workers (maybe rushing for Chinese New Year) installed one part upside down. From a quick check, it seems like an easy fix. We just need to remove that part and unflip it. I will attempt mine later cause it's quite a tight fit and you do not want to force it.
If you don't want to fix it, well, it extends high enough anyway and doesn't really need that extra range that the left leg have. As far as I know, this problem plague all first batch Iron Man. Who knows, maybe HT will issue a replacement part like their did with some Lost predator who got the wrong colour joints for the hands.
The stand is the typical HT stand with minor changes. The 'claw' section is a lot more narrower and will fit between the crotch instead. This is a really clever way of securing the figure without scratching the paint job inside the thigh.
Overall, this figure more than live up to the expectation despite the really minor QC problem that doesn't actually detracts from the figure in any way.
It's only the beginning of the year and there is already a strong contender for the figure of the year. Honestly, the only line that might even stand a chance is the upcoming Terminator line. A few Endo should give Iron Man a run for the money.
This has been one of the most anticipated figure last year which was originally slated for an October release but got pushed back a few times probably because Hot Toys wanted to concentrate on the TDK line. Now that HT are mostly done with the TDK line, it's Iron Man turn to shine and does it shine.
Firstly, the good stuff. The most striking thing you will notice is the paint job or the shine on the paint job. He is not metal but every inch of the figure has a shine to it and that gives it a really metallic armour look. It must be noted that the paintjob is different than the prototype. The prototype has a brighter siesta red going on but the final product is more marooned.
This is totally movie accurate. All other Iron Man movie related product released so far (Bust, statue, hasbro movie line, has the same colour scheme going on. HT got the colour wrong in the prototype. Even the box shows Iron Man in the siesta red colour scheme. This could be a good or bad thing depending on who you asked.
One crowd prefers the prototype more comic accurate paint scheme while another crowd prefers the movie accurate paint scheme. But judging by how nitpicky the crowds here are about accuracy, the final paint scheme will pleased many.
Second thing you will notice is the amount of crazy detail for Iron Man. This thing is no doubt the most detail Iron Man movie figure out there so far. I will go as far as saying that the only other thing more detail that this is the movie CGI. Even the actual prop isn't as detail (the actual movie costume was CGI enhanced greatly). This figure honestly renders the statue that was release last year obsolete because it looks more detail and has a better paint job than the statue and this Iron Man is articulated. You will not be stuck with just one pose anymore.
Thirdly, you will notice Iron Man is quite light. He weights about the same a typical HT figure. He is mainly made from plastic but with this figure, HT made a few brilliant innovation in the construction. Iron Man is extremely articulated for a suit of armour and that has a lot to do with the used of mix media in the construction of this figure.
Despite being mainly plastic, certain key portions such as the waist, hip, and neck are made from soft PVC. This allows the figure to be more articulated and also being able to posed more naturally because of the flexible material. What's more amazing is how HT managed to match the paint job of the soft PVC perfectly with the plastic parts.
The only part that did not match well is the elbow area. It's rubber instead of PVC (because rubber is even more softer than PVC) and as you can see from the pic, the paint job doesn't match the rest. I guess with rubber being the main material, it will be impossible. Luckily, it's a very minor unnoticeable part and you can now bend the arms to 90 degrees while still hiding the joints.
Speaking of joints, all the joints are very well hidden and tight. Iron Man will have no trouble holding any pose standing or mid air. The knees are double jointed and as you all can see from numerous pics by now, he can do the ground pounding pose. Overall he is as articulated as a Predator.
One impressive gimmick with Iron Man is the light up eyes, reactor, and hands. Then way HT go about this while still being able to change heads and hands (we get three sets) are just amazing. Basically the peg at the neck post and arms are leds. It's such a simple and brilliant design. The leds are also very bright and will look impressive enough in any picture.
The drawback are the switches on both arms. It's really obvious and really the only thing that kills the illusion that this the real thing. HT could have come up with a better placement for the switch. The switch for the eyes and reactor are better hidden at the back inside one of the flaps. It is again quite obvious when you look at it from behind with the flap opened.
The flaps on the legs and back opens (once again movie accurate) and showing some impressive detailing, especially the leg section. HT even has different colour for each individual wire. When it comes to detail, no one can beat HT at their game.
Another gimmick is the arm missile. It's a minor but really cool addition. It is however missing the shoulder gun gimmick. It's all CGI in the movie and will be complicated but possible on this figure but I guess at this pricepoint, we are already getting more than what we are paying.
The RDJ head is spot on but not as impressive as BR Joker or TF. To me the problem is the choice of expression. Tony Stark was never that serious in the movie and I really can't remember him having such as expression. TDK Bale is a great sculpt but also suffers from the same problem of a dead serious expression that you can't find in the movie.
As you can see from this pic, the head looks very well proportion contary to earlier belief that the body might be to lean. With the RDJ head on, it looks believe enough to me that this is indeed a man wearing a form fitting armour.
In this pic, you can see that Iron Man is only slightly bigger and taller than Batman. I guess one might expect Iron Man to be much bigger than taller but looking at the DVD again, Iron Man isn't that tall or big. It's the comic Iron Man that's tall and big.
There are a few things to take note of. Maybe it is due to the nature of the paint job but it is quite impossible to find one that has the perfect paint job. There will be one or two minor really small smudges on the armour. It's especially more common on the PVC section. There are also some plastic scar where they cut the part from the runner. Most of them are really small or well hidden and basically unavoidable.
As a modeler myself, the only way to get rid of the scare is to sand it down, fill it with putty and then sand it again. It will be unrealistic to expect this level of personal attention on a mass produced figure.
The paint job so far is holding up well even after much posing and playing. It's hard to tell at this point whether it will last. But to me there is nothing wrong with a little wear and tear cause Iron Man in the movie is a little worn also.
There is also talk of the minor QC problem with the back leg flap, namely the right leg. It can't extend at high at the one on the left. The problem is really minor. Basically the factory workers (maybe rushing for Chinese New Year) installed one part upside down. From a quick check, it seems like an easy fix. We just need to remove that part and unflip it. I will attempt mine later cause it's quite a tight fit and you do not want to force it.
If you don't want to fix it, well, it extends high enough anyway and doesn't really need that extra range that the left leg have. As far as I know, this problem plague all first batch Iron Man. Who knows, maybe HT will issue a replacement part like their did with some Lost predator who got the wrong colour joints for the hands.
The stand is the typical HT stand with minor changes. The 'claw' section is a lot more narrower and will fit between the crotch instead. This is a really clever way of securing the figure without scratching the paint job inside the thigh.
Overall, this figure more than live up to the expectation despite the really minor QC problem that doesn't actually detracts from the figure in any way.
It's only the beginning of the year and there is already a strong contender for the figure of the year. Honestly, the only line that might even stand a chance is the upcoming Terminator line. A few Endo should give Iron Man a run for the money.
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noisetrigger
Super Freak
More pics
IMO: It isn't a deal breaker nor was I involved with the discussion but I see the complaint about IM waist.
The pic with the RDJ sculpt on the suit makes it quite obvious about a narrow waist. Good thing RDJ will be on a HT boby with a Toys2 suit, so no worries from my standpoint
The pic with the RDJ sculpt on the suit makes it quite obvious about a narrow waist. Good thing RDJ will be on a HT boby with a Toys2 suit, so no worries from my standpoint
noisetrigger
Super Freak
As weird as it sounds. The waist looks fine in person but shows up really thin in photos.
Cool......I'd get him regardless since I have a plan for RDJ sculpt (maybe)...
I forgot to say in my original post, great pics and thanks for the review. All these pics making the wait to receive the fig killer
galactiboy
OT Preferist
So awesome... must have it now!
Interesting about the leg flap, but with so many moving parts its understandable that something would get messed-up. But at least its fixable, and if I was stuck with one something I could live with.
Interesting about the leg flap, but with so many moving parts its understandable that something would get messed-up. But at least its fixable, and if I was stuck with one something I could live with.
Reinhardt
Super Freak
awesome review Noisetrigger!!! These should be shipping in the next few days. 
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The three of these look so BADDASS together! Can't wait to have them all!
aussieinnyc
Super Freak
Yeah but my understanding is that s/he did pre-order with them, so they should have sent one out to Flamebo but instead, from what I can gather, are just selling to people walking off the street instead of filling their direct pre-orders.
I may be getting you wrong and missing your point. It is, after all, almost 4am and the only reason I'm up is some ^^^^^^^s are having a party on a Thursday night and woke me up. So have a beer.
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