Hot Toys - MMS 117 Terminator 2 Model T-800 spec + hi-res pics

[ZsaszSays]

I need a little bit of extra money, so Im selling the rosebox from the figure. If anyone is interested...
https://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=330557575171

 

[spindrift]

Ok- he is going for $350 PLUS on Ebay...people are paying these kind of prices. Wow!
Makes me think that a DX T2 T 800 might be announced any day now...
but will we get this "clean" version ever again?

 

[Marcus Wright]

Ok- he is going for $350 PLUS on Ebay...people are paying these kind of prices. Wow!
Makes me think that a DX T2 T 800 might be announced any day now...
but will we get this "clean" version ever again?

I dont see a reason why it shouldn't go for that prices and higher.
See, one of the most memorable characters ever that is long sold out from all stores.

I would say that he is one of the very few actually worth that much. I got it for 300$ myself, only time I paid more than retail.

 

[DiFabio]

I would say that he is one of the very few actually worth that much. I got it for 300$ myself, only time I paid more than retail.

I don't agree with that. It's a great figure, but saying any of these Hot Toys figures are worth more than their MSRP is pushing it.

 

[Marcus Wright]

I don't agree with that. It's a great figure, but saying any of these Hot Toys figures are worth more than their MSRP is pushing it.

Not to you probably.
To me, it is.

Furthemore, if it is getting sold at these prices, than it is worth it.

 

[Rotfish]

Titanic's just not my thing, and Avatar was great the first time, enjoyable the second, haven't watched it since. Camer's gotten a bit too "epic" for me and I just don't think he knows how to make a movie over 2 hours be fully engaging for that whole time.

Done right, a 2+ hour film will not feel it, T2 doesn't, but Avatar feels that way to me after the first viewing when everything is no longer new. It's well designed for a first viewing but I don't think it's a movie constructed for repeat viewings, once you know everything coming at you, you start to feel like, ok, get to it already, at least I do.

Definitely with you there. I think part of the issue is that old 80's charm. Action movies were done right in those days; larger-than-life characters, classic one-liners, and simple yet effective story lines.

Action flicks today consist of the same stories, by now pounded to death, stock characters that no one feels anything for, barely any good lines, overused shaky camera movements (that only work at certain moments), and fast cuts with explosions left and right.

If "Battle: LA" was the epitome of the modern action film, we're screwed. Forget "Eat, Pray, Love" -- "Commando" is the feel-good movie experience of the year. How can you watch flicks like that without a nostalgic (yet still enthusiastic) smile on your face?








The "Matrix" trilogy is the only exception, just felt I had to say it.

 

[MaulFan]

That's why I love the Expendables, sure some of the lighting and things may not have been the best, but at the heart, it was just a fun, old school action flick, good cheesy humor, likable characters, cool fights.

 

[DiFabio]

Furthemore, if it is getting sold at these prices, than it is worth it.

Well people that contribute to that will try to justify it, sure. I did the same thing with an TDK OC Batman a few years ago. I had multiple chances to get it for the $150 MSRP, but for whatever reason didn't. About a year later I paid $250 dollars for it and totally regretted it. That figure goes for way more now, but there's certainly no way I can justify my purchase, no matter how "nice" it is.

There was a huge window of opportunity to pay the regular MSRP (I think I paid $160-170ish when it came out?) when this figure first debuted and again when it was rereleased.

Personally I just find it odd when people get so excited and think they have gotten a bargain when they pay $300-$400 for a Terminator or close to $500 or $600 for a DX Batman or Joker. It's not a bargain or a deal. Someone might be excited that they finally obtained one, I can see that, but those prices are just too outrageous.

I guess it doesn't help when others encourage this practice and congratulate others for paying so much.

 

[ali032373]

Why do people pay a fortune for a rare stamp or a painting when the materials are worth almost nothing? Or what value does a first edition copy of Moby ____ or a Tale of Two Cities really have when you can just buy a new one for a few dollars?

It's why people collect.

 

[MaulFan]

There is a difference though.

Rightly, $250 should be the ceiling for a straight from the manufacturer price for a figure, and even that's high.

It's value beyond that, is up to demand and availability. If someone is seeking to get one of these and can't without spending a lot and it's worth $500 to get one finally, cool, more power to them, that's their personal value.

Personal value and rational value are totally separate. Most collectibles are rationally overpriced but still sell at high prices because collectors toss our rational thinking.

I don't think the industry could charge more than $300 for a factory shipped 1/6 figure of today's quality without losing buyers because as many things as are made, there will come a point where there are less people that can and will spend that much and they'll spend it on less things. There is a ceiling they'll hit where any higher and they'll be stuck with product or discouting it significantly to get it off shelves.

 

[Russell1982]

Well people that contribute to that will try to justify it, sure. I did the same thing with an TDK OC Batman a few years ago. I had multiple chances to get it for the $150 MSRP, but for whatever reason didn't. About a year later I paid $250 dollars for it and totally regretted it. That figure goes for way more now, but there's certainly no way I can justify my purchase, no matter how "nice" it is.

There was a huge window of opportunity to pay the regular MSRP (I think I paid $160-170ish when it came out?) when this figure first debuted and again when it was rereleased.

Personally I just find it odd when people get so excited and think they have gotten a bargain when they pay $300-$400 for a Terminator or close to $500 or $600 for a DX Batman or Joker. It's not a bargain or a deal. Someone might be excited that they finally obtained one, I can see that, but those prices are just too outrageous.

I guess it doesn't help when others encourage this practice and congratulate others for paying so much.

I was actually thinking something really similar recently. I see a lot of people saying they got a hot toys P1 for like $400 or something and saying they got a really good deal. And i cant help but think "thats not a good deal. Its like two or three times the retail price" I bought it when it was first released so luckily never had to resort to the massive prices. Same with DX Batman, but even if i didnt, i wouldnt think paying anything more than the retail would be a good deal.

Im not saying people shouldnt pay it, if its something they want and they're willing to pay that much for it, its totally their decision. It is a shame that that is what will keep the prices that high, cos surely if no one paid it then it wouldnt sell for that much and the price would have to come down. I paid £300 for the Scarecrow/demon bats set, which i wouldnt say is a great deal but i knew it was the best i could probably get. I paid it, am glad i got it and dont regret it. But i wouldnt say it was a great deal.

Ok, rant over.

 

[Marcus Wright]

Well people that contribute to that will try to justify it, sure. I did the same thing with an TDK OC Batman a few years ago. I had multiple chances to get it for the $150 MSRP, but for whatever reason didn't. About a year later I paid $250 dollars for it and totally regretted it. That figure goes for way more now, but there's certainly no way I can justify my purchase, no matter how "nice" it is.

There was a huge window of opportunity to pay the regular MSRP (I think I paid $160-170ish when it came out?) when this figure first debuted and again when it was rereleased.

Personally I just find it odd when people get so excited and think they have gotten a bargain when they pay $300-$400 for a Terminator or close to $500 or $600 for a DX Batman or Joker. It's not a bargain or a deal. Someone might be excited that they finally obtained one, I can see that, but those prices are just too outrageous.

I guess it doesn't help when others encourage this practice and congratulate others for paying so much.

No need to go that much into details.
Its simple.

If there is a demand for a figure at certain price, no matter how high it is, than its worth it. That simple.

After all, what really is a diamond that makes it that expensive?

P.S. And if really T2 Arnie is ridiciously overpriced, than only sensible thing for you to do is to sell it to prove your point.

 

[ali032373]

I think we kind of hit that price point issue with Indy given the sculpt issues. There was a legitimate rebellion (as legit as a doll rebellion can get) where folks just said "I'm not going to pay this price for this product."

But demand is the ultimate arbiter of value. When you get awesome licenses and make awesome products people will pay top dollar.

 

[ali032373]

We've all bitten the bullet on some item where we paid a major price increase after market. And we did it because we wanted the product. And so did many others.

 

[DiFabio]

We've all bitten the bullet on some item where we paid a major price increase after market. And we did it because we wanted the product. And so did many others.

Yep, we've all been there.

I just don't necessarily agree with what people consider a good or fair price these days, especially when said price is outrageous.

It's okay to be humble and admit you paid too much but have what you wanted regardless.

 

[Geil]

Hey these prices going up with lowered supply is just normal. WIth increased prices well it is normal that some will simply not tolerate them and rather forfeit the purchase.
Ppl paying double the price just to get an iPad2 in the first few days with inventory only increase in time is what is absurd

 

[bplus73]

I traded my second t2 t800 for my first joker, bank robber version last week. I bought it around $190 two months ago.

 

[Centurion]

No need to go that much into details.
Its simple.

If there is a demand for a figure at certain price, no matter how high it is, than its worth it. That simple.

After all, what really is a diamond that makes it that expensive?

P.S. And if really T2 Arnie is ridiciously overpriced, than only sensible thing for you to do is to sell it to prove your point.

I've always said, something is worth only what someone is willing to pay for it.

 

[a-dev]

Got my larger grenades today from War-toys.com! The ones that Maulfan posted on page 1165. Still no sign of the other ones I ordered and now I almost don't care because these ones are excellent. SO much bigger than the COOmodels ones and a great shiny paintjob on each one. They do not fit inside the M79 grenade launcher but thats less important than how they look on the figure. They look great if too cramped.

 

[FlyAndFight]

...
I don't think the industry could charge more than $300 for a factory shipped 1/6 figure of today's quality without losing buyers because as many things as are made, there will come a point where there are less people that can and will spend that much and they'll spend it on less things. There is a ceiling they'll hit where any higher and they'll be stuck with product or discouting it significantly to get it off shelves.

I once thought the same thing but the only thing that has happened is that the ceiling keeps getting raised...

I remember when $100.00 was "my" magical ceiling on 1/6th scaled figures. Hot Toys' ingenuity and detailing has managed to bump that up a notch...

But with the higher prices on these figures, I've become even MORE picky with my acquisitions. As Maulfan stated, once the prices hit a certain point, I'm forced to consider other alternatives for the funds.

And just to bring this back to T2 T-800, this figure continues to impress me every day. Simply amazing.