1/6 Hot Toys - MMS 320 - Star Wars Ep.VII - Kylo Ren

[Invictus Sol]

Just saw the movie last night and thought they did a great job with Ren. Has the potential to be the best since Vader. Wish we'd gotten these kind of character insights with Maul.

 

[KR DynobotPrime]

Man, this figure looks BA. Can't wait to get him in hand.

 

[Username]

Man, this figure looks BA. Can't wait to get him in hand.

I pity da fool.

 

[wadeit0ut]

Disney's casting call has omitted Adam Driver and named Benicio del Toro as the "villain" on two occasions now.

Do we assume that Kylo was so badly disfigured in TFA that he'll return as Benicio del Toro in Episode VIII?

There is no official cast list for episode 8. If you are looking at the same one that has listed Harrison Ford and Del Toro for like 5 months, you can disregard it.

 

[Blaster Rex]

Oh man, I want this figure SO bad - but HT 1/6 Vader's arrival is imminent and my wife bought me the HT 1/6 Sandtrooper for Christmas so can't really justify forking out £200 for Ren right now. (I just hope he'll still be around in a coupla months time) First world (order) problems eh?

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[The Mike]

This figure looks fantastic. I cannot wait until the end of the month (pay day) to order it.

 

[Cixx]

Nice pics guys that material looks great! Almost like black sm3.(just waiting for SS)

 

[Victοr]

I just came back from the movie (fockin Greece showing it one the 24th instead of the 18th) and I have some theories concerning Kylo:

Spoiler

Theory 1:

He went full-on bad-guy after Snoke probably promised him something (ascendind to Vader's level perhaps?) and by the end of the Trilogy he'll turn to the light, but not by dying like Vader. Rather becoming a Jedi again, like Anakin (well, he became a Sith, but you get what I'm saying) did at the end of ROTS. I'm not completely sold on this one, since you can see that the's clearly having emotional problems and that he can't cope with all the stuff he's doing.

Theory 2:

Kylo's a sleeper agent. I mean, think about it. He's having breakdowns all the time, he talks about being conflicted, and his scene with Han had him almost falling to the ground and crying. Plus, it'd make sense why Rey beat him so easily. His heart is not with the Dark Side, so he's having trouble truly mastering it. My best guess is that he and Luke set up this plan to draw Snoke out when Luke started suspecting that something was wrong. In order for it to appear genuine, they staged the whole thing, even fooling Han and Leia.

Now, I'm not saying that I'm dead certain it's one of these two, and I've probably missed some stuff, but hey, we've got close to 2 years until we see him next, so it's speculation time I guess. As for the fig, dunno. I liked the design in the movie, but the figure turned out a bit too..."plai" for my tastes. I have others to hunt down first (OT), but if I have some spare funds, maybe I'll go for it next year. Or I'll just wait for the Ep.8 redesign, and hope that his outfit is a tad more detailed.

 

[Futurion]

Killing own father (and letting him do it) just to lure someone out? Too far fetched. Nope.

 

[Wor-Gar]

I just came back from the movie (fockin Greece showing it one the 24th instead of the 18th) and I have some theories concerning Kylo:

Theory 1:

He went full-on bad-guy after Snoke probably promised him something (ascendind to Vader's level perhaps?) and by the end of the Trilogy he'll turn to the light, but not by dying like Vader. Rather becoming a Jedi again, like Anakin (well, he became a Sith, but you get what I'm saying) did at the end of ROTS. I'm not completely sold on this one, since you can see that the's clearly having emotional problems and that he can't cope with all the stuff he's doing.

Theory 2:

Kylo's a sleeper agent. I mean, think about it. He's having breakdowns all the time, he talks about being conflicted, and his scene with Han had him almost falling to the ground and crying. Plus, it'd make sense why Rey beat him so easily. His heart is not with the Dark Side, so he's having trouble truly mastering it. My best guess is that he and Luke set up this plan to draw Snoke out when Luke started suspecting that something was wrong. In order for it to appear genuine, they staged the whole thing, even fooling Han and Leia.

Now, I'm not saying that I'm dead certain it's one of these two, and I've probably missed some stuff, but hey, we've got close to 2 years until we see him next, so it's speculation time I guess. As for the fig, dunno. I liked the design in the movie, but the figure turned out a bit too..."plai" for my tastes. I have others to hunt down first (OT), but if I have some spare funds, maybe I'll go for it next year. Or I'll just wait for the Ep.8 redesign, and hope that his outfit is a tad more detailed.

Answers:

1) Should be in spoilers thread.

2) neither theory is correct.

 

[Cixx]

Can you take the top tunic /hood off easily? I think i'd like to display him like that kinda like when he's walking down the ramp near the end of the movie without it on.

 

[Victοr]

Answers:

1) Should be in spoilers thread.

2) neither theory is correct.

Bollocks, I forgot the tags.

Eh, that's the "spirit" of a theory. Nobody knows what's correct until a Marvel comic or SW movie shows it.

 

[Victοr]

Killing own father (and letting him do it) just to lure someone out? Too far fetched. Nope.

People at other sites seem to think that it's got some ground. I can't think of another reason for him to be almost soaking at that scene. Besides, killing Han was Kylo's decision, I don't think Luke would have said something like that.

Again, I'm not putting much stock in it, but it'd certainly be a more interesting twist than "oh, a creepy old guy influenced him like his granddad-see? Parallels...". Weirder things have happened in Star Wars (like the Emperor transfering his soul into a cloned body moments before his death). And hey, anything possible. Even Boba Fett re-emerging from the Pitt and being the head of the United Mandalorians. Not likely, but possible...

 

[Wor-Gar]

Nobody knows what's correct until a Marvel comic or SW movie shows it.

That's not true. You can watch and learn the basic themes of Star Wars and draw conclusions very easily. Also, basic logic will give you answers if, again, you know the way the Skywalker family history has played out.

A double -agent? No. And Kylo cannot live now that he's done what he's done (you know what I talking about). He will die in a great sacrifice to save Rey, much like Vader did to save Luke. He will ring balance to the Force. It's not sexy or convoluted, but it is the way Star Wars plays.

 

[Victοr]

That's not true. You can watch and learn the basic themes of Star Wars and draw conclusions very easily. Also, basic logic will give you answers if, again, you know the way the Skywalker family history has played out.

Eh, I was trying to think outside the box. Everyone could guess the basic stoyline that they'll probably follow, the "safe" route, but that;s the fun in speculating IMO. Crazy theories that might come true. Otherwise, you're left recycling the same ideas until the movie hits and you go "yep, knew that".

Spoiler

Kylo was obviously the new U's Jacen Solo, but that didn't stop people from coming up with crazy ideas. Sure, they were wrong in the end, but eh, it was entertaining.

And as for the new canon, it is kinda in Marvel's hands, and who knows where they'll take it. For example, Vader who supposedly hates Tattooine went there in the very first issue. He also killed a bunch of Raiders (guess that's a hobby of his, or just his way of remembering the good ol AOTC days). Han Solo got married to get out of a mess in Star Wars. Also, it turned out that the Emperor had a bunch of secret apprentices ready to replace Vader. Stuff gets retconned all the time, so I don't think it's that far fetched for the ST to deviate a bit from the classic "fall from grace"/seduction (albeit reversed this time).

My point is, yeah, the safe route will probably be the one that will turn out to be true as well. But speculating is all about crazy ideas. When the Blu-Ray comes out and people have picked apart every scene, then we'll know more, but, as it stands, I don't mind "believing a lie"...

 

[batsheva]

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Good news?

 

[SNIKT1950]

The novelization basically confirms Kylo much like Anakin succumbed to over a decade of Sith seduction. Snoke began speaking to him telepathically as a child and by his 18th birthday had completely sold him on the power of The Dark Side.

The way Kylo differs from Anakin is that Anakin only accepted Palpatine's offer to save Padme whilst Kylo did it solely for the promise of greater power.

The novelization is a great read.

 

[Victοr]

The novelization basically confirms Kylo much like Anakin succumbed to over a decade of Sith seduction. Snoke began speaking to him telepathically as a child and by his 18th birthday had completely sold him on the power of The Dark Side.

The way Kylo differs from Anakin is that Anakin only accepted Palpatine's offer to save Padme whilst Kylo did it solely for the promise of greater power.

The novelization is a great read.

Huh, I was under the assumption that the novelazition wasn't canon (to be fair I avoided all TFA news ever since the 1st trailer). Guess I'll have to hunt that down.

But the "sleeper agent" theory is gaining some traction (though they claim that Kylo did embrace the Dark Side, but in order to bring Balance along with Rey, who will be the Light, resulting in a Dark/Light alliance).It begun in Tumblr, and now some sites are picking it up. I'm not claiming anything, but it's worth at least considering the possibility. After all, who knows?

 

[Trengence]

That's not true. You can watch and learn the basic themes of Star Wars and draw conclusions very easily. Also, basic logic will give you answers if, again, you know the way the Skywalker family history has played out.

A double -agent? No. And Kylo cannot live now that he's done what he's done (you know what I talking about). He will die in a great sacrifice to save Rey, much like Vader did to save Luke. He will ring balance to the Force. It's not sexy or convoluted, but it is the way Star Wars plays.

To be fair Anakin was redeemed and he LITERALLY killed children and his wife

 

[ZE_501]

To be fair Anakin was redeemed and he LITERALLY killed children and his wife

Yeah, but he still had to die for it.

And as I've mentioned elsewhere, I think old George was stretching the narrative like a mofo. You don't come back from what Anakin did, unless you accept that he was literally controlled by Palpatine the entire time and totally devoid of free will. Which is also a bit of a stretch, given how Star Wars appears to be set up.