1/6 Hot Toys - MMS 320 - Star Wars Ep.VII - Kylo Ren

[Wor-Gar]

no room for 3 versions of Finn and the old folks with their rockers

this is ultimately Disney and Kennedy's show ...

Yep. JJ's the fall guy. The real power stays out of the limelight. If this thing goes sideways, watch them back-peddle on JJ just like Whedon. There's always another hack.

 

[KerotanFrog]

Yep. JJ's the fall guy. The real power stays out of the limelight. If this thing goes sideways, watch them back-peddle on JJ just like Whedon. There's always another hack.

"Somebody take JJ out back.. Get Kasdan in here!"

 

[automaton]

Pretty sure the Sith don't have force ghosts. The only path to retaining consciousness after death is through overcoming the trials of your personal darkness and embracing love. Palpatine didn't love spit.

Clone Wars (the series) is considered canon... and Darth Bane did appear as a "ghost" to Yoda...

besides, darkness always finds a way in.

 

[John Nada]

NO exclusive on this so I can wait to see if this movie is good before I bite.

 

[KerotanFrog]

Pretty sure the Sith don't have force ghosts. The only path to retaining consciousness after death is through overcoming the trials of your personal darkness and embracing love. Palpatine didn't love spit.

Clone Wars (the series) is considered canon... and Darth Bane did appear as a "ghost" to Yoda...

besides, darkness always finds a way in.

Oh yeah I forgot about that episode... Nice catch. Hmm maybe Qui-Gon didn't know everything. Ok I can definitely see Palpatine "coming back" now. He's one the most powerful Sith ever. There's already rumors of Vader or Anakin in VIII. Anything is possible.

 

[Prime Clone]

If they draw any inspiration from Dark Empire - one of the best stories from the now-defunct EU - Palps could return in a cloned body.

 

[FREEKDOM]

If they draw any inspiration from Dark Empire - one of the best stories from the now-defunct EU - Palps could return in a cloned body.

Yeah I bet the Pro OT fan boys would love that...

 

[KerotanFrog]

If they draw any inspiration from Dark Empire - one of the best stories from the now-defunct EU - Palps could return in a cloned body.

While I kinda doubt it, I'm always down for more Palpatine. I really want to see this new villain though.

 

[sithlord13]

I love (still) the eu. But hated clone palps.
And I mean hated.

 

[paulcarson]

I'm looking forward to getting this, extra sculpt or not.

 

[Jack Bauer]

I doubt a licensed card game would be so inaccurate. Also, if it were mistaken about Kylo (doubtful) it wouldn't also epically miss the mark by listing Rey as a Jedi and Finn as a not-Force-sensitive character when every poster and the last trailer have him wielding Anakin's blue lightsaber.

This is clearly a case of a product exposing plot points in the film that Abrams tried hard to conceal.

Like Finn wielding a lightsaber and Rey a staff, "Kylo is not a Sith." is just another Abrams bit of misdirection.

Kylo is 100% NOT a Sith, Rey's staff is 100% NOT Darth Plageus' and Snoke is 100% NOT Darth Plageus.

JJ and Disney are not pandering to that prequel stuff. This trilogy will be tied to the OT almost exclusively.

 

[Wor-Gar]

Kylo is 100% NOT a Sith, Rey's staff is 100% NOT Darth Plageus' and Snoke is 100% NOT Darth Plageus.

JJ and Disney are not pandering to that prequel stuff. This trilogy will be tied to the OT almost exclusively.

Case closed.

OK, Jack, what's the next figure?

 

[wadeit0ut]

You realize Abrams blatantly said Khan wouldn't be in Star Trek Into Darkness, right? He even had the cast lie for him to keep people from learning of his involvement in the film.

J.J. loves misdirection, or lying. Semantics.

So either R2-D2 is a Jedi or the cards mean nothing.

Take your pick.

 

[SNIKT1950]

Kylo is 100% NOT a Sith, Rey's staff is 100% NOT Darth Plageus' and Snoke is 100% NOT Darth Plageus.

JJ and Disney are not pandering to that prequel stuff. This trilogy will be tied to the OT almost exclusively.

You haven't seen the movie so I wouldn't go around confirming certain things aren't true. I also don't buy into your "insider" knowledge because it makes no sense for you to be sharing it on a public forum. I actually know someone who worked on the film as an actor and the only thing he could tell me was the name of the character he plays. I wouldn't share any info he gave me even if someone offered to pay.

Plus, if the rumors about Hayden Christensen being in VIII are true, there goes most of your argument.

 

[wadeit0ut]

You haven't seen the movie so I wouldn't go around confirming certain things aren't true. I also don't buy into your "insider" knowledge because it makes no sense for you to be sharing it on a public forum. I actually know someone who worked on the film as an actor and the only thing he could tell me was the name of the character he plays. I wouldn't share any info he gave me even if someone offered to pay.

Plus, if the rumors about Hayden Christensen being in VIII are true, there goes most of your argument.

If Kylo Ren was a Sith, JJ wouldn't just flat out say "He is not a sith" like he did. He just wouldn't. He has never rolled that way. He would just give a non answer if anything.

That isn't to say he doesn't BECOME a sith in the trilogy assuming he doesn't die.

 

[automaton]

Kylo Ren may not be a Sith in TFA but ultimately he, or SOMEONE will find their way to it... Disney is taking every step to keep this next stage feeling like Star Wars... there will be Sith.

the inclusion of a cloned "anyone" would be a huge misstep... Palpatine as a force ghost allows to push the story... to bookend the OT from the dark side's point of view...

 

[SNIKT1950]

If Kylo Ren was a Sith, JJ wouldn't just flat out say "He is not a sith" like he did. He just wouldn't. He has never rolled that way. He would just give a non answer if anything.

That isn't to say he doesn't BECOME a sith in the trilogy assuming he doesn't die.

While its possible that Kylo is yet to become a Sith, I disagree with you on Abrams. He's blatantly lied before to protect plot points in his films. Come December 17, every promo image and poster of Finn wielding a lightsaber will probably amount to lies.

I love JJ nonetheless. I just don't take any of his statements seriously.

 

[Wor-Gar]

Come December 17, every promo image and poster of Finn wielding a lightsaber will probably amount to lies.

I don't understand, what is the lie there? Anyone can pick up a lightsaber and turn it on.

And, not directed at you, but are people thinking the rules have been changed again on the Sith stuff? Meaning that black-clad figures with masks, red sabers and force-push hands are no longer just for "Siths"?

Was Ventress a Sith or Sith-in-training?

 

[wadeit0ut]

While its possible that Kylo is yet to become a Sith, I disagree with you on Abrams. He's blatantly lied before to protect plot points in his films. Come December 17, every promo image and poster of Finn wielding a lightsaber will probably amount to lies.

I love JJ nonetheless. I just don't take any of his statements seriously.

What lie? You don't have to be a Jedi to hold a lightsaber.

 

[SNIKT1950]

I don't understand, what is the lie there? Anyone can pick up a lightsaber and turn it on.

He's being marketed as the Jedi hero, always photographed holding that lightsaber like he's been trained to use it. There are people who literally expect Finn to give Kylo a run for his money during that skirmish in the woods.

So yeah, if Disney wasn't lying Rey would be holding the lightsaber in every promotional photo instead of Finn.