1/6 Hot Toys - MMS 320 - Star Wars Ep.VII - Kylo Ren

[LoveMinusZero]

Pretty sure the Sith don't have force ghosts. The only path to retaining consciousness after death is through overcoming the trials of your personal darkness and embracing love. Palpatine didn't love spit.

Clone Wars (the series) is considered canon... and Darth Bane did appear as a "ghost" to Yoda...

besides, darkness always finds a way in.

Except for the fact that it was not Darth Bane's ghost, it was a force illusion meant to test Yoda, similar to Luke seeing Vader on Dagobah. It was not Darth Bane.

 

[Wor-Gar]

He's being marketed as the Jedi hero, always photographed holding that lightsaber like he's been trained to use it.

That's not true, I never thought he was a Jedi, he's hardly been shown with the saber until this last trailer... and nowhere did anyone say, not even your crazy cards, that he was a Jedi. Clearly he uses a saber in a fight with Kylo, and I imagine that fight is quick. But he's no Jedi.

Han used Luke's saber in ESB; it may have even been in one of the trailers back in the day, but no one thought Han became a Jedi.

 

[LoveMinusZero]

There's no marketing I've seen pushing Finn as a Jedi hero, holding a lightsabre doesn't make you a Jedi. The trailer even straight out says "the Force is calling to you" in a direct conversation with Rey. JJ and Disney have both stated that the majority or promotional images and scenes we have seen are from the first third of the film, when Finn has the sabre.

With regards to Kylo, again, JJ has said lying about Khan was a big mistake and it hurt the film, plus Disney is really in charge here, not JJ. Plus there's the fact it would make zero difference to 95% of the movie going audience whether Kylo was called a Sith or not. There's no point in lying about it.

 

[Jack Bauer]

Sure I would, I have no way of getting in any kind of trouble. Fact is man, you don't know what your talking about when it comes to TFA. You simply like to disagree with me. I do have inside info, that is a fact. I am sorry you don't like that fact but it's true and the things I share are true whether you believe them or not. That's the thing about truth... It's objective, not subjective. If you actually had inside info, you would make factual statements like I have on many occasions.

You haven't seen the movie so I wouldn't go around confirming certain things aren't true. I also don't buy into your "insider" knowledge because it makes no sense for you to be sharing it on a public forum. I actually know someone who worked on the film as an actor and the only thing he could tell me was the name of the character he plays. I wouldn't share any info he gave me even if someone offered to pay.

Plus, if the rumors about Hayden Christensen being in VIII are true, there goes most of your argument.

 

[Jack Bauer]

Oh and if you want to know why Finn is wielding the saber and not Rey, I can tell you that too, but be careful man, I can ruin the movie for you.

 

[SNIKT1950]

Oh and if you want to know why Finn is wielding the saber and not Rey, I can tell you that too, but be careful man, I can ruin the movie for you.

If your information is true then you are leaking material against the will of Disney. That's illegal. Hope nobody reports you as you're probably using your own IP when posting on here.

 

[SNIKT1950]

That's not true, I never thought he was a Jedi, he's hardly been shown with the saber until this last trailer...

Examples of Finn wielding the lightsaber:

-Struzan SDCC poster (millions saw that)
-Toys R Us Hasbro Force Awakens banner (millions saw that, it was huge during Force Friday)
-Instagram Teaser (Millions of likes and comments)
-Official Poster (Billions saw that)
-Trailer III (Billions saw that)

Examples of Rey wielding the lightsaber:

None.

 

[Jack Bauer]

If your information is true then you are leaking material against the will of Disney. That's illegal. Hope nobody reports you as you're probably using your own IP when posting on here.

I post because I am a fan and I love sharing this info with fans. It's all fun until someone like you comes in and gets in a tizzy because the truth about the movie doesn't fit your fanboy dreams. I will post my full name and IP address, I have no fear of getting caught, it's not possible to link me here to how I know this info.

 

[Jack Bauer]

Examples of Finn wielding the lightsaber:

-Struzan SDCC poster (millions saw that)
-Toys R Us Hasbro Force Awakens banner (millions saw that, it was huge during Force Friday)
-Instagram Teaser (Millions of likes and comments)
-Official Poster (Billions saw that)
-Trailer III (Billions saw that)

Examples of Rey wielding the lightsaber:

None.

Your logic doesn't add up kid, just because Finn wields a saber doesn't mean he is a Jedi. It's not a lie, it's just protecting the plot of the story. It would be like assuming Kylo is a Sith just because he wields a red lightsaber...oh wait, you're doing that too.

 

[SNIKT1950]

I post because I am a fan and I love sharing this info with fans. It's all fun until someone like you comes in and gets in a tizzy because the truth about the movie doesn't fit your fanboy dreams. I will post my full name and IP address, I have no fear of getting caught, it's not possible to link me here to how I know this info.

Nah, man, what you're doing is compromising the plot of a billion-dollar investment by Disney so you can look cool to a bunch of strangers on a message board. As a filmmaker I resent your behavior and hope whoever it is at Disney you are close with that shared this info with you - learns of your activities here and stops trusting you with sensitive content you can't keep to yourself.

 

[LoveMinusZero]

Nah, man, what you're doing is compromising the plot of a billion-dollar investment by Disney so you can look cool to a bunch of strangers on a message board. As a filmmaker I resent your behavior and hope whoever it is at Disney you are close with that shared this info with you - learns of your activities here and stops trusting you with sensitive content you can't keep to yourself.

My god, man. Take a nap or something, why do you have such a hard on for this?

 

[Jack Bauer]

Nah, man, what you're doing is compromising the plot of a billion-dollar investment by Disney so you can look cool to a bunch of strangers on a message board. As a filmmaker I resent your behavior and hope whoever it is at Disney you are close with that shared this info with you - learns of your activities here and stops trusting you with sensitive content you can't keep to yourself.

Oh then, since you are a filmaker, I'll stop. Thanks I had no clue

 

[cmiller99]

Nah, man, what you're doing is compromising the plot of a billion-dollar investment by Disney so you can look cool to a bunch of strangers on a message board. As a filmmaker I resent your behavior and hope whoever it is at Disney you are close with that shared this info with you - learns of your activities here and stops trusting you with sensitive content you can't keep to yourself.

Jack's actually just refuting your assumptions, not giving away major plot points.

 

[Wor-Gar]

Sexting does not make one a filmmaker.

 

[LoveMinusZero]

Sexting does not make one a filmmaker.

Guess I'm out. Dream killer.

 

[Pixelpiper]

You must spread some reputation around before giving it to Jack Bauer again. BRB - I'm taking care of this problem right now.

 

[KerotanFrog]

We got off track here.

Jack what is the next figure to be announced??

Please say Emperor or Phasma..

 

[wadeit0ut]

Wondering what specifically they are waiting for to announce the helmet-less Kylo Ren Disney Elite figure. I wonder if they won't even show it until Dec 18th.

 

[LoveMinusZero]

I think once the 18th comes, we'll be hit will a huge wave of new products.

 

[Wor-Gar]

And much crow will be served.