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Any "depth" it had was delivered in a poor manner. Execution is just as important.

There are plenty, far better executed films out there that deal with levels of reality/psychology/morality.

But I don't know, I hate Snyder's "directing" so eh.
 
I agree. Probably the worst flick I saw in theaters this year.

Didn't even find the action scenes exciting. Snyder really let me down with this one. Finally got my girlfriend to admit she didn't really like the film and that she kept trying to convince herself that she did. :lol
 
Just watched the movie, some questions/observations...

1. There was three realities.

The real world where Dr Gorski (Carla) runs the mental hospital and Blue is an orderly.

The first imaginary reality, where the institution is a front for a brother/club and Blue is the owner.

The third reality where the girls quest for the items.



2. The events of the movie shunt from the real world once Baby sits in the lobotomy chair to the 1st imaginary reality, and moves in and out of the third as they go for the items, the real-life events of getting the items and using them take place in the real world off-screen.

I think the lobotomy takes place after the montage upon entering the asylum but the events of the film take place during the montage.

I loved the film. People may not say its deep but i think it is, if the story of Baby and the girls in a dingy Asylum was filmed at face value, stealing an orderly's lighter, photocopying a map and stealing a knife, it would be over quickly and be boring.

Going into the other realities gives the quest for these items more excitement.

The film starts off very emotional, gets actionery during and when it comes towards the end i was shocked at...

The deaths and change in tone and story to Sweat Pea and the sacrifice needed to set her free, after being the reason Rocket died, having Baby sacrifice herself to set Sweat Pea free was very deep

I think this was a great blend of Action & Drama, as the film progressed i got somewhat bored by the jumping in and out of action scenes, but at exactly the right time it brought back the drama to really give the punch of the film.

I read about the lobotomy in the this thread, and was bummed, thinking the end was ruined, but knowing now that Baby Doll sacrificed herself to save Sweat Peaand rid herself of her memories gave meaning to this and made you okay with the ending.

And the music :rock as did the effects. I loved the Baby's dancing was done off-screen leaving it to the viewer to fell how sensual it must be (like old-fashioned monster movies, leaving it to the imagination)

My only gripe would be that during the first action scene Baby was kicked about alot without showing any signs of injury. I understand this was done to showcase the modern action filmmaking showing indestructible humans, but it took away the sense of danger the character was in.


I have Baby Doll on order, may get Amber now, Ah hell! I want them all from Hot Toys, but especially Sweat Pea and Rocket :yess:

well said Nova! that's exactly how I saw the movie.

I haven't POed Babydoll yet but I hope to be able to still get her even after she's released
 
Just watched the movie, some questions/observations...

1. There was three realities.

The real world where Dr Gorski (Carla) runs the mental hospital and Blue is an orderly.

The first imaginary reality, where the institution is a front for a brother/club and Blue is the owner.

The third reality where the girls quest for the items.



2. The events of the movie shunt from the real world once Baby sits in the lobotomy chair to the 1st imaginary reality, and moves in and out of the third as they go for the items, the real-life events of getting the items and using them take place in the real world off-screen.

I think the lobotomy takes place after the montage upon entering the asylum but the events of the film take place during the montage.

I loved the film. People may not say its deep but i think it is, if the story of Baby and the girls in a dingy Asylum was filmed at face value, stealing an orderly's lighter, photocopying a map and stealing a knife, it would be over quickly and be boring.

Going into the other realities gives the quest for these items more excitement.

The film starts off very emotional, gets actionery during and when it comes towards the end i was shocked at...

The deaths and change in tone and story to Sweat Pea and the sacrifice needed to set her free, after being the reason Rocket died, having Baby sacrifice herself to set Sweat Pea free was very deep

I think this was a great blend of Action & Drama, as the film progressed i got somewhat bored by the jumping in and out of action scenes, but at exactly the right time it brought back the drama to really give the punch of the film.

I read about the lobotomy in the this thread, and was bummed, thinking the end was ruined, but knowing now that Baby Doll sacrificed herself to save Sweat Peaand rid herself of her memories gave meaning to this and made you okay with the ending.

And the music :rock as did the effects. I loved the Baby's dancing was done off-screen leaving it to the viewer to fell how sensual it must be (like old-fashioned monster movies, leaving it to the imagination)

My only gripe would be that during the first action scene Baby was kicked about alot without showing any signs of injury. I understand this was done to showcase the modern action filmmaking showing indestructible humans, but it took away the sense of danger the character was in.


I have Baby Doll on order, may get Amber now, Ah hell! I want them all from Hot Toys, but especially Sweat Pea and Rocket :yess:

Well-explained dude! :hi5:

I have Babydoll on pre-order, I'll be satisfied w/ her alone already plus there's so much goodness that are being offered by HT nowadays that I won't manage to get the other girls. :thud:
 
actually its never mentioned who escapes in reality
the end scene is in Babydolls head
she is the one that lives on has Sweat Pea
 
actually its never mentioned who escapes in reality
the end scene is in Babydolls head
she is the one that lives on has Sweat Pea

Possibly True...

Sweet pea has that same dude on the bus from the fantasy realm, it could be that Any of the girls escaped and Baby simply imagined it was Sweet Pea as that would make her most happy as she lost the most.

But i prefer to think Sweet Pea did escape

I do love how it can b interpreted differently by different viewers, how many films can truly say that
 
In the original cut of the film Snyder thought it whas too obvious
that we where entering the dream world at the end
so he cut it differently to leave it to the imagination
its all explained on the Blu-Ray by Snyder
 
When I saw it , I felt it was too pg13 . He should of made it rated R. It was confuseing at times for going into a dream within a dream like inception.
 
When I saw it , I felt it was too pg13 . He should of made it rated R. It was confuseing at times for going into a dream within a dream like inception.

It was made rated R. He was forced to make cuts and make it PG13. You need to watch the Blu Ray Extended version. That's the Movie that was intended.
 
This sucks :(

Iron Man is getting yet another figure, the 20th figure of the line, and yet the rest of the Sucker Punch girls are likely not gonna be made.

I mean how hard is it to make the three other girls?

Why should iron man and Batman get so damn many figures that they cross over to remaking existing ones while so many other lines dont have more than two in the first place.

Whenever i bring it up there is the standard response of of "Iron Man is popular" or "Sucker Punch Sucked" or "It flopped at the Box Office"... WHO CARES???? the character design was awesome with lots of cool accessories and there is a market for the fans of the film.

People in the Iron Man & Batman threads think the HT world revolves around them, like if they didnt buy them HT would be out of business or that they're the only thing keeping HT alive in order to Risk on other licenses.

Well its not a "risk" if they make two figures and abandon it, alot of the time they will choose to abadon the line before it even begins to ship, how the hell can they know if its profitable if they dont expand on it.

If they gave up on Iron Man after the first two figures they'd never know how much they could make.

I'm a fan of the film and other licenses like Tron and Thor and X-Men First Class and it ____ing infuriates me that there is a direct limit on everything except certain licenses.

Iron Man will have 20 figures while the combined figure amount of those i mentioned will be lower, how is that fair to fans of the licenses?

If you dont collect Iron Man, Batman or Predator you're ____ed, you'll get 2 sometimes a little more and thats it, dead in the water.

I'm not asking for miracles like every character of every license being made, but 3 more figures for Sucker Punch, 3 more for Tron about 5-6 for X-Men first Class, it's not unreasonable when compared to the Frickin 20 that Iron Man is getting.


I know alot of guys are gonna drill me for this but, and cite facts and figures, but i'm tired and pissed off and i just want Sweet Pea at least from this line, i mean Metal Gear Solid is my Grail and it angers me so much that by the time they start coming there will be another Iron Man remake available and maybe 2-4 figures from a cast and variants of about 15 in MGS



I'm ranting i know, but Iron Man fans seem to forget that HT exists to please other license too, not just them.

/RANT
 
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This sucks :(

Iron Man is getting yet another figure, the 20th figure of the line, and yet the rest of the Sucker Punch girls are likely not gonna be made.

I mean how hard is it to make the three other girls?

Why should iron man and Batman get so damn many figures that they cross over to remaking existing ones while so many other lines dont have more than two in the first place.

Whenever i bring it up there is the standard response of of "Iron Man is popular" or "Sucker Punch Sucked" or "It flopped at the Box Office"... WHO CARES???? the character design was awesome with lots of cool accessories and there is a market for the fans of the film.

People in the Iron Man & Batman threads think the HT world revolves around them, like if they didnt buy them HT would be out of business or that they're the only thing keeping HT alive in order to Risk on other licenses.

Well its not a "risk" if they make two figures and abandon it, alot of the time they will choose to abadon the line before it even begins to ship, how the hell can they know if its profitable if they dont expand on it.

If they gave up on Iron Man after the first two figures they'd never know how much they could make.

I'm a fan of the film and other licenses like Tron and Thor and X-Men First Class and it ____ing infuriates me that there is a direct limit on everything except certain licenses.

Iron Man will have 20 figures while the combined figure amount of those i mentioned will be lower, how is that fair to fans of the licenses?

If you dont collect Iron Man, Batman or Predator you're ____ed, you'll get 2 sometimes a little more and thats it, dead in the water.

I'm not asking for miracles like every character of every license being made, but 3 more figures for Sucker Punch, 3 more for Tron about 5-6 for X-Men first Class, it's not unreasonable when compared to the Frickin 20 that Iron Man is getting.


I know alot of guys are gonna drill me for this but, and cite facts and figures, but i'm tired and pissed off and i just want Sweet Pea at least from this line, i mean Metal Gear Solid is my Grail and it angers me so much that by the time they start coming there will be another Iron Man remake available and maybe 2-4 figures from a cast and variants of about 15 in MGS



I'm ranting i know, but Iron Man fans seem to forget that HT exists to please other license too, not just them.

/RANT

I have to say, I certainly agree with you!

I don't really mind HT making a lot of Iron Man figs, especially because these make them a lot of money to try out other things, but it seems that the other things they try is just more Iron Man and Batman stuff. The Iron Monger for example, a beautiful looking figure which certainly had a lot of R&D, probably made possible by the success of the IM figs.

But like I said, it's time HT invests in some other stuff. You mentioned Tron Legacy for example; Where's Sam, Quorra, Clu or Rinzler? They will probably never see the light of day...

Thor; It's awesome that we got an Odin figure besides Thor, but come on, we should at least have gotten a Loki by now, possibly even Heimdall or Sif.

Same goes for Sucker Punch; they should at least make a Sweet Pea figure.

So yeah, I don't mind them making 100 Iron Man figs, but they should give other lines the same chances and attention.
 
Bottom line, people keep buying Ironman figures, so HT makes more. If these figures sell well then they will make more of them too, but they probably won't sell anywhere near as well as the IM figures.
 
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