I think he meant more the name of the aliens...
Hot Toys - MMS174 - The Avengers: 1/6th scale Captain America Offical Specs and Pics
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ThorsThunder
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Pretty sure CA using a gun was in the trailer and so are the aliens but sorry if that gave anything away
galmando
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Captain America is in this movie!? Please use spoilers tags, YOU'RE RUINING EVERYTHING!!!
Pass Da Joint
Super Freak
It's like saying Iron Man flies in the movie and someone saying "Don't spoil it!"....Please how ____ can you get?
Pass Da Joint
Super Freak
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mikericm
Super Freak
Is this the 1/6 figure thread? Talk about the movie in the movie thread abd you won't have to use spoilers.
Ok, you are not a ____ smoke man. Sorry, I take it back. 
I didn't expect that badass looking weapon to have anything big to do with the story in the movie, but how would I know until you spoiled it for us? I was thinking that Hot Toys added it to the figure because it played its part in the movie, but now I know it doesn't thanks to you.
Edit: Didn't see the smartass comments, it's really not the same. Comparing obvious facts to something we don't know anything about...
I didn't expect that badass looking weapon to have anything big to do with the story in the movie, but how would I know until you spoiled it for us? I was thinking that Hot Toys added it to the figure because it played its part in the movie, but now I know it doesn't thanks to you.
Edit: Didn't see the smartass comments, it's really not the same. Comparing obvious facts to something we don't know anything about...
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Pass Da Joint
Super Freak
Ok, you are not a ____smoke man. Sorry, I take it back.
I didn't expect that badass looking weapon to have anything big to do with the story in the movie, but how would I know until you spoiled it for us? I was thinking that Hot Toys added it to the figure because it played its part in the movie, but now I know it doesn't thanks to you.
Edit: Didn't see the smartass comments, it's really not the same. Comparing obvious facts to something we don't know anything about...
Smoke man.....I like that
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greygoose
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Huh...
Spliff
Super Freak
yanno, when pricing your product you all are forgetting it's not just the cost of what it takes to produce the product that sets the price.
i understand you but it's really hard not to be confronted with spoilers especially on boards like these , just look at the upcoming avengers products and you already know way too much stuff before you have seen the movie ...
Again, a devalued Fiat currency is the reason why we are paying higher prices for gas,food,and toys...The dollar does not have the buying power it once had and looking in through out the past 50-60 years,history shows this.Sure, labor costs go up,but again,only because the dollar does not buy what it used to,which takes more Federal reserve notes to pay for overall costs...Here is a Fact-
Back in 1964,two Silver dimes bought you a gallon of gas (.20 cents a gallon) Today, the Same two Silver Dimes buy you a gallon of gas (plus more)
De-valued,over-printed currency produces higher costs and inflation
www.usinflationcalculator.com/
$159 in 2010 equals $167 in 2012.
HTs prices have increased a bit over inflation, wouldn't you agree?
DGTWoodward
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I really do not understand what it is that people are getting up in arms over regarding the pricing issue.
The entire western world is working off the CAPITAList system, where greed is the the only factor that keeps everything moving. Successful corporations pay out as very little as possible and squeeze out as absolutely much as is totally possible.
GREED is built into the system from the word go. Also, the Capitalist system not only is responsible for derelict factories in the USA and UK and all over the western world in fact, it actually needs and thrives on these 3rd world sweat shops, they are essential for the business plan to operate, it would all fall apart without them. Are you seriously expecting these people to pay a working US wage to a single US worker for a year, when they can get away with paying the exact same amount to 20 Mexican or Chinese workers for that same year?
It is more understandable and easy to argue over the increases in the price of food, clothing and power/water/gasoline. But we are not are we? We are talking about ultra extravagant, totally un-need, completely non-essential, toys from a film! A ridiculous luxury even to me, and I love them. Of course they will have every premium attached to them that HT can think of...and probably a few more besides. I am not defending the action, it's just the way things are in a society driven solely by the acquisition of money.
Yet somehow, people here are arguing the toss over these price increases as if they are something new or surprising. We vote this same crap in every 5 years, we do it willingly and it never. ever. changes.
And as far as simple answers go, it really is Occam's Razor...If you don't want to pay the price, don't buy the figure, anyone that says that it's just not that simple, you are wrong.
Now can we quit with the socio-economical naivete and outright blindness to how the world works, and get back on topic.
The entire western world is working off the CAPITAList system, where greed is the the only factor that keeps everything moving. Successful corporations pay out as very little as possible and squeeze out as absolutely much as is totally possible.
GREED is built into the system from the word go. Also, the Capitalist system not only is responsible for derelict factories in the USA and UK and all over the western world in fact, it actually needs and thrives on these 3rd world sweat shops, they are essential for the business plan to operate, it would all fall apart without them. Are you seriously expecting these people to pay a working US wage to a single US worker for a year, when they can get away with paying the exact same amount to 20 Mexican or Chinese workers for that same year?
It is more understandable and easy to argue over the increases in the price of food, clothing and power/water/gasoline. But we are not are we? We are talking about ultra extravagant, totally un-need, completely non-essential, toys from a film! A ridiculous luxury even to me, and I love them. Of course they will have every premium attached to them that HT can think of...and probably a few more besides. I am not defending the action, it's just the way things are in a society driven solely by the acquisition of money.
Yet somehow, people here are arguing the toss over these price increases as if they are something new or surprising. We vote this same crap in every 5 years, we do it willingly and it never. ever. changes.
And as far as simple answers go, it really is Occam's Razor...If you don't want to pay the price, don't buy the figure, anyone that says that it's just not that simple, you are wrong.
Now can we quit with the socio-economical naivete and outright blindness to how the world works, and get back on topic.
Read this article on why Apple manufactures the iPhone in China:
https://www.nytimes.com/2012/01/22/...d-a-squeezed-middle-class.html?pagewanted=all
This goes in hand with a theory I read once (sadly, I forgot the source) about the decline of the Roman Empire : one of the main reasons was the 300 year economic deficit with... guess who? China (through Persia) since the Romans were importing spice and luxury items like vases and carpets in return for hard currency (silver and gold) until they depleted their mines in Hispania and were then forced to devalue their currency to pay the legions and then inflation hit causing the whole system to collapse. Then the empire itself followed suit.
What is happening today is no different. The West created its wealth by exploiting its strategic and technological advantage since the discovery and the mining of the New World and the subsequent imperialism that exploited Africa and Asia. The West built a welfare state (in Europe and Canada) and a high standard of living (Europe and Northern America) that cannot compete with China because:
1. labor is a lot cheaper
2. there are few regulations regarding the exploiting of workers
3. authoritarianism = flexibility (8,000 engineers readily available to work 12hr shifts)
Basically, China is a 19th century neo-liberal theme park ripe for the taking by CEOs and shareholders in the West, all with the blessing of the Chinese government until they've drained all the "know how" from the West.
Then, when the West has no manufacturing whatsoever, reality will hit and we'll have to learn how to create things for the Chinese.
Basically, the scales will tip one day and roles will be reversed.
Until the next shift.
The bottom line being: lets enjoy "relatively cheap toys" (that would cost $1000 if produced in the West at this level of quality) while we can and for as long as our governments are able to borrow nonexistent virtual money on account of having the most nukes to scare the lenders with
https://www.nytimes.com/2012/01/22/...d-a-squeezed-middle-class.html?pagewanted=all
This goes in hand with a theory I read once (sadly, I forgot the source) about the decline of the Roman Empire : one of the main reasons was the 300 year economic deficit with... guess who? China (through Persia) since the Romans were importing spice and luxury items like vases and carpets in return for hard currency (silver and gold) until they depleted their mines in Hispania and were then forced to devalue their currency to pay the legions and then inflation hit causing the whole system to collapse. Then the empire itself followed suit.
What is happening today is no different. The West created its wealth by exploiting its strategic and technological advantage since the discovery and the mining of the New World and the subsequent imperialism that exploited Africa and Asia. The West built a welfare state (in Europe and Canada) and a high standard of living (Europe and Northern America) that cannot compete with China because:
1. labor is a lot cheaper
2. there are few regulations regarding the exploiting of workers
3. authoritarianism = flexibility (8,000 engineers readily available to work 12hr shifts)
Basically, China is a 19th century neo-liberal theme park ripe for the taking by CEOs and shareholders in the West, all with the blessing of the Chinese government until they've drained all the "know how" from the West.
Then, when the West has no manufacturing whatsoever, reality will hit and we'll have to learn how to create things for the Chinese.
Basically, the scales will tip one day and roles will be reversed.
Until the next shift.
The bottom line being: lets enjoy "relatively cheap toys" (that would cost $1000 if produced in the West at this level of quality) while we can and for as long as our governments are able to borrow nonexistent virtual money on account of having the most nukes to scare the lenders with
Let's keep things civil with each other and regardless of how small the detail is in the movie or if it was in the trailer...use spoiler tags.
If you want to discuss the movie...go to the Avengers Movie Thread.
If you want to discuss the movie...go to the Avengers Movie Thread.
SixthScaleEdward
Super Freak
Weird choice of accessory, opportunity wasted by HT
gaijin san
Super Freak
Weird choice of accessory, opportunity wasted by HT
I can see that a couple of guns would be fitting with this fig, and may help others accept the price point, but the alien weapon makes perfect sense in light of the movie.
SixthScaleEdward
Super Freak
I dont think so
He didnt even shoot aliens with it, you just see him holding it for a nanosecond
gaijin san
Super Freak
I dont think so
He didnt even shoot aliens with it, you just see him holding it for a nanosecond
But it gives HT the chance to produce a cool bit of alien tech with justification from the movie, given that they almost certainly won't be releasing any of the aliens, and it gives us the chance to recreate that specific 'hero pose' on top of the cop car. Makes sense to me.
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