Hot Toys MMS233 -Predator 2 - 1/6th scale Elder Predator 2.0 Collectible Figure

[fosing]

my theory still stands, the base mold tsang used a)classic and b)avp scar and beta test it over social media. lolz

 

[RIDDICK]

i LOLd at the "pirate" nickname. who came up with that?

Damn you!
(but also bless you, your photoshop may help me skip a figure I was otherwise tempted to buy)

glad to be helpful! I know the feeling

 

[darkmoon2112]

I hope so



Maybe they didn't want him to look too much like an old Jungle Hunter... I dunno.

Never satisfied for tsang work

 

[P.]

I think I agree with Lar'ja on the whole Predator clan concept, at least as it was portrayed in P2. Its interesting though because I know both he and P. are huge P2 fans. I actually find it strange seeing them disagree on such a seemingly important point.

that's because i'm a Thomas br. predator fan and Lar'ja Thwei is obviously a Yautja fan (best depicted by '-symbols and "thwei" word in his nickname).
those two things are not only divided but completely opposite in their basics.
Thomas predators are modern individuals hunting for emotions of a dying prey (predator 1 scaring Dutch with his cannon across the jungle in a deleted scene, predator 2 nitpickingly killing every Harrigan's friend and frightening/angrying him with Danny's neck ornament), and yautja are ancient-styled clans hunting for honors and place in society, respecting their... not prey but rivals.
but the two concepts are not enemies. because Thomas brothers made a predator and yautja fans just stole its image and mixed it with popular dungeons&dragons, eastern&japanese & primitive comics "a bad hero" concepts
a secondhand abomination is not an enemy of the original, it's just abomination. as popular as everything with straightly written rules concept, letting its fans to accept everything and explore nothing.
and the whole "clan" concept was developed by comic fans and at the same time straightly rejected by comments and images of P2 bunch of predators.

 

[rivera2171]

Interesting explanation.

 

[Centurion]

Interesting explanation.

LOL!!

 

[Rotfish]

Damn you RIDDICK! (but also bless you, your photoshop may help me skip a figure I was otherwise tempted to buy)

Oh, come on. You're seriously going to deny yourself the best Predator Hot Toys has ever done? I won't deny the head is too long, but it's nowhere near as long as the original (which until now was considered almost infallibly accurate).

 

[xenowolf]

that's because i'm a Thomas br. predator fan and Lar'ja Thwei is obviously a Yautja fan (best depicted by '-symbols and "thwei" word in his nickname).
those two things are not only divided but completely opposite in their basics.
Thomas predators are modern individuals hunting for emotions of a dying prey (predator 1 scaring Dutch with his cannon across the jungle in a deleted scene, predator 2 nitpickingly killing every Harrigan's friend and frightening/angrying him with Danny's neck ornament), and yautja are ancient-styled clans hunting for honors and place in society, respecting their... not prey but rivals.
but the two concepts are not enemies. because Thomas brothers made a predator and yautja fans just stole its image and mixed it with popular dungeons&dragons, eastern&japanese & primitive comics "a bad hero" concepts
a secondhand abomination is not an enemy of the original, it's just abomination. as popular as everything with straightly written rules concept, letting its fans to accept everything and explore nothing.
and the whole "clan" concept was developed by comic fans and at the same time straightly rejected by comments and images of P2 bunch of predators.

P. why didn't p2 kill the pregnant woman who was one of harrigans friends if what u said was true it would have gladly killed her. Or the unarmed woman in p1, if it was just to terrorize prey and watch them die. Everything that was made in the comics was taken directly from what was shown in scenes in the movies. Without the honor aspect of predators hunting worthy opponents, they just become another serial killer and everything that is cool about predators is lost.

 

[a-dev]

I've never been quite certain how to take the so-called Predator honor code. OK, in P2 the creature does not kill children or women with unborn children. The hunting clan even gives Harrigan a measure of respect by not killing him and instead giving him a souvenir at the end of that film. But what's with this thing where they either set off a semi-nuclear bomb when they are defeated (or in a disadvantaged position) or when they take off in their ship, giving the human very little time to escape with his life, if he even figures out that he needs to leg it in the first place?

Oh, come on. You're seriously going to deny yourself the best Predator Hot Toys has ever done? I won't deny the head is too long, but it's nowhere near as long as the original (which until now was considered almost infallibly accurate).

Blade sir, I need every reason possible to not buy more figures

 

[CollectorGuy]

P. why didn't p2 kill the pregnant woman who was one of harrigans friends if what u said was true it would have gladly killed her. Or the unarmed woman in p1, if it was just to terrorize prey and watch them die. Everything that was made in the comics was taken directly from what was shown in scenes in the movies. Without the honor aspect of predators hunting worthy opponents, they just become another serial killer and everything that is cool about predators is lost.

 

[P.]

P. why didn't p2 kill the pregnant woman

https://www.wisegeek.com/what-are-the-different-types-of-illegal-hunting.htm#slideshow

Often, when game animals are in their breeding season, hunting is prohibited in order to ensure the continuity of the species.

the hunting methods of predators were based on hunting methods of humans.
kill males, there are lots of males and they are basically not needed except for breeding seasons.
never hunt little ones or females because they'll give more little ones.
if you kill the breed, you'll have no prey next season.
humans are always in "breeding season" so every human female is capable of bringing new prey around the year.
predators take humans for animals since P1. it was also commented as "predators like to hunt dangerous animals, and the most dangerous animal in the universe is a human".
note the word "animal"

Without the honor aspect of predators hunting worthy opponents, they just become another serial killer and everything that is cool about predators is lost.

predators don't have "opponents" and they are not "killers". they are hunters taking their sweet time.
and that is what is cool about predators not respecting anybody except themselves. (and getting their asses kicked suddenly in XX century by humanity developed enough).
again, i'm talking about original Thomas predators. not the popular protoss-caveman concept of yautja.

 

[CollectorGuy]

I've never been quite certain how to take the so-called Predator honor code. OK, in P2 the creature does not kill children or women with unborn children. The hunting clan even gives Harrigan a measure of respect by not killing him and instead giving him a souvenir at the end of that film. But what's with this thing where they either set off a semi-nuclear bomb when they are defeated (or in a disadvantaged position) or when they take off in their ship, giving the human very little time to escape with his life, if he even figures out that he needs to leg it in the first place?



Blade sir, I need every reason possible to not buy more figures

I still dont know how dutch got clear of P1 bomb radius in P1 In P2 keys said the blast radius took out 300 city blocks of jungle right?

 

[RIDDICK]

I need every reason possible to not buy more figures

 

[xenowolf]

A-dev I think the bomb is their last ditch effort at victory even if it means they die too and it keeps their technology from other races hands.

 

[Rotfish]

I've never been quite certain how to take the so-called Predator honor code. OK, in P2 the creature does not kill children or women with unborn children. The hunting clan even gives Harrigan a measure of respect by not killing him and instead giving him a souvenir at the end of that film. But what's with this thing where they either set off a semi-nuclear bomb when they are defeated (or in a disadvantaged position) or when they take off in their ship, giving the human very little time to escape with his life, if he even figures out that he needs to leg it in the first place?

Well, technically leading the Predator to self-destruct isn't really killing him. Rather than finishing the job in P1, Arnold hesitated and let the creature finish itself and the rainforest off. In P2, Danny Glover took care of the self-destruct mechanism and legitimately beat it. That was worthy of recognition and thus he was met with respect rather than rage. A kill is a kill, and what happened in P1 was not.

Blade sir, I need every reason possible to not buy more figures

I believe it. Still a gorgeous figure though...

 

[P.]

I've never been quite certain how to take the so-called Predator honor code.

both P1 and P2 reject it, with their "killing invisibly" (lots of preys), "killing from a distance" (lots of preys), "killing the unarmed" (Mac), "killing from behind" (Blade), "killing the injured" (Poncho), "killing the unprepared" (...the guy with glasses whatshisname), "killing the unable to fight" (Danny hanging on one leg) and so on.
every aspect of an original predator sends yautja "honor code" to hell.
i've met yautja fans on forums, talking that original predators were "badbloods" as they violated the comics code a lot

Then they must have been drunk

and here is a yautja fan commenting predator creators for you. he believes in his religion though it's not based on original explanations but on users ideas. here's a comics for ya

 

[xenowolf]

https://www.wisegeek.com/what-are-the-different-types-of-illegal-hunting.htm#slideshow
the hunting methods of predators were based on hunting methods of humans.
kill males, there are lots of males and they are basically not needed except for breeding seasons.
never hunt little ones or females because they'll give more little ones.
if you kill the breed, you'll have no prey next season.
humans are always in "breeding season" so every human female is capable of bringing new prey around the year.


predators don't have "opponents" and they are not "killers". they are hunters taking their sweet time.
and that is what is cool about predators not respecting anybody except themselves. (and getting their asses kicked suddenly in XX century by humanity developed enough).
again, i'm talking about original Thomas predators. not the popular protoss-caveman concept of yautja.

In a big game or dangerous game hunt many hunters have been killed by their prey. The hunter has become the hunted, that is the whole thrill behind a dangerous hunt it's not a defenseless animal, but a deadly opponent, be it animal, human, or alien. That is why harrigan was given the pistol, he won their respect, the ultimate prey beat the ultimate hunter.

 

[P.]

In a big game or dangerous game hunt many hunters have been killed by their prey.

source please. from original predator movies please.
the only note is about XX century, when agent Peter Keese, using a XX century science and being crazy about catching a predator, fails to get one alive.
before XX century there is no way for humans to kill a predator, their private weapons are not enough and their governments know nothing about them to unleash a planet-wide hunt (the whole "extraterrestrial creatures" idea appeared only in XX century and never depicts a giant hunter).
and almost all fanmade spin-offs contradict everything told&filmed by their creators, that's the point.
"concrete jungle" might be the only keeping the original idea.

That is why harrigan was given the pistol, he won their respect, the ultimate prey beat the ultimate hunter.

never heard anything like that from creators.
you do understand you are <<< Thomas brothers )
one old guy, hating poor youth unable to do what he did in his childhood, likes an animal more than his own kind. that often happens with old people on earth, they hate everybody around them and love their animals

 

[xenowolf]

Human hunters are killed by bears, lions, boars, and many other creatures on earth that's why they are called dangerous game and are coveted trophy's by human hunters. In the predator movies p1 is hurt bad enough by Dutch that he blows himself up, and p2 is killed by harrigan. So ya pretty dangerous opponents, not helpless animals.

 

[darkmoon2112]

Yeah .. i think i need more money to buy more predator w