1/6 Hot Toys MMS351 Captain America: Civil War The Winter Soldier Collectible Figure

[Motuxmen]

The paint thing is for real man. Most people don't get how much the sculpt depends on it. You can take a subpar sculpt and make it stunning with paint and the opposite is true with a good sculpt and bad paint. It is more important then the sculpt on final products. And there is maybe a couple people, maybe, who are as good at scale figure painting as JC. (The head of painting and design at hot toys and the person who usually does all the approval and prototypes paint) his paint on prototypes will always look better then a production figure. But like you, very few people know just how much it effects things. Most people (generally) think that paint matters but it's not a big deal. And that's really just not the case. It's at least as important as the sculpt, but since it's where all the "life" and realism and depth actually comes from I'd say it's more important.

It's what separates hot toys with human head products from others. Even a lot of statue companies. Hot toys paint is so much better. But, like I said, JC can't paint them all so the production figures won't be identical (factor in the other computer/camera stuff too) to the proto..but most the time it's not due to them resculpting the head or parts but because of manufacturing process and paint.

 

[krieg-der-sterne]

i agree totally that paint matters a lot,we can see it when we look at repaints which make some heads stunning.but on this one i think the whole form of the face is just off in its proportion.

The paint thing is for real man. Most people don't get how much the sculpt depends on it. You can take a subpar sculpt and make it stunning with paint and the opposite is true with a good sculpt and bad paint. It is more important then the sculpt on final products. And there is maybe a couple people, maybe, who are as good at scale figure painting as JC. (The head of painting and design at hot toys and the person who usually does all the approval and prototypes paint) his paint on prototypes will always look better then a production figure. But like you, very few people know just how much it effects things. Most people (generally) think that paint matters but it's not a big deal. And that's really just not the case. It's at least as important as the sculpt, but since it's where all the "life" and realism and depth actually comes from I'd say it's more important.

It's what separates hot toys with human head products from others. Even a lot of statue companies. Hot toys paint is so much better. But, like I said, JC can't paint them all so the production figures won't be identical (factor in the other computer/camera stuff too) to the proto..but most the time it's not due to them resculpting the head or parts but because of manufacturing process and paint.

 

[IarnaOrgana]

The sculpt looks a-okay to me. With any figure, its best not to be needlessly picky. Expect what you pay for, sure. But nitpicking does no one any good. IMO, the overall quality and appearance of Hot Toys figures are some of the best - if not the best - on the market. I see the figure and immediately see Bucky. There's no question who it is. Is it an exact replication of Sebastian? Obviously not. But there's no doubt in my mind that few mass-producing figure companies could do better. If the sculpt is not exactly to your specifications and that's a deal breaker, then pass on the figure. Simple. And if you think you could do better, I suggest investing in a 3D printer and some paint

Edit: This isn't addressed to anyone specific. Just my frustrated, over sensitive rant about oversensitivity

 

[krieg-der-sterne]

never implied i could do better .so dont get picky yourself

The sculpt looks a-okay to me. With any figure, its best not to be needlessly picky. Expect what you pay for, sure. But nitpicking does no one any good. IMO, the overall quality and appearance of Hot Toys figures are some of the best - if not the best - on the market. I see the figure and immediately see Bucky. There's no question who it is. Is it an exact replication of Sebastian? Obviously not. But there's no doubt in my mind that few mass-producing figure companies could do better. If the sculpt is not exactly to your specifications and that's a deal breaker, then pass on the figure. Simple. And if you think you could do better, I suggest investing in a 3D printer and some paint

 

[IarnaOrgana]

never implied i could do better .so dont get picky yourself

I wasn't referring to you specifically. More the general 'you'. Should have clarified

 

[krieg-der-sterne]

oki doki

I wasn't referring to you specifically. More the general 'you'. Should have clarified

 

[Motuxmen]

I wasn't referring to you specifically. More the general 'you'. Should have clarified

I got what you where saying. And I mostly agree with the sentiment. For almost every figure it's the very best version ever made of that figure so i find it hard to complain about much. Heck most the time it's the only version. Even if it's an update, like here. It's still the only 1/6 civil war Bucky on the market.

 

[krieg-der-sterne]

youre right,almost every time we get a new one,its the best figure thats there.and rarely we(generally) dont like it.just in this rare case,i just dont think its better .asalways,its in the eye of the onlooker

I got what you where saying. And I mostly agree with the sentiment. For almost every figure it's the very best version ever made of that figure so i find it hard to complain about much. Heck most the time it's the only version. Even if it's an update, like here. It's still the only 1/6 civil war Bucky on the market.

 

[TräshCät]

The sculpt looks a-okay to me. With any figure, its best not to be needlessly picky. Expect what you pay for, sure. But nitpicking does no one any good. IMO, the overall quality and appearance of Hot Toys figures are some of the best - if not the best - on the market. I see the figure and immediately see Bucky. There's no question who it is. Is it an exact replication of Sebastian? Obviously not. But there's no doubt in my mind that few mass-producing figure companies could do better. If the sculpt is not exactly to your specifications and that's a deal breaker, then pass on the figure. Simple. And if you think you could do better, I suggest investing in a 3D printer and some paint

Edit: This isn't addressed to anyone specific. Just my frustrated, over sensitive rant about oversensitivity

Totally agree with you, Iarna. Seriously, I look at the figure and it's Bucky. Yes, it's not perfect but that's not a deal breaker to me. It's not like with CW Ant-Man where I have to really try and see anything Paul Rudd in it and notice so many things that are off.

Gosh, I really hope we get some video reviews soon. *_* I'll probably have a few more months till my Winter Soldier gets here so I need something to make the wait more bearable.

 

[kurisuchie2kimi]

_v_i_s_o_n_ , I should have probably specified that

Thanks for the pictures v-i-s-o-n!! He looks great in hand, and like I've said before, the sculpt is growing on me. I still think he has a massive forehead, larger than Seb's actual forehead, but that could also be camera angles I can't wait to get him in hand! As soon as his price goes down

 

[krieg-der-sterne]

arrrgghh,maybe we are just spoiled brats...

 

[TräshCät]

I still think he's looking great! *_*

Source: Instagram

 

[kurisuchie2kimi]

I still think he's looking great! *_*

Source: Instagram

He does look great! I love that bottom pic

 

[Motuxmen]

arrrgghh,maybe we are just spoiled brats...

You mean humans in general. If so, I agree. Lol

It's not just 1/6 collectors really. It's pretty much everyone on the planet. Lol

 

[TräshCät]

He does look great! I love that bottom pic

I know, right?! Lovely shots!

Also this one here, also from Chiyan711:

I wish I hadn't prepaid mine already, then I could wait a bit more and snag him off of Ebay early. Damn, now I really want him. Can't wait to take some pics of him. *_*

 

[krieg-der-sterne]

exactly

You mean humans in general. If so, I agree. Lol

It's not just 1/6 collectors really. It's pretty much everyone on the planet. Lol

 

[Thomascrown17]

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If anyone comes across this figure on a Hayley please post



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[Ramatuelle]

I don't think it matters if your a girl. Doesn't to me. Didn't even know. As for credentials, again mostly it doesn't matter. Doing something for a long time doesn't make you an expert, and I'm not saying you are or are not. Just pointing out that it doesn't really make any difference. (I did agree with you though.)

Nah you're cool, I was just shocked for my opinion to be dismissed, but the same exact opinion from you to be validated. What? lol

In regard to your remarks about paint, absolutely true and I think it is the reason for 50% of the angst we see in the Statue forums. People see a PF with a professional paintjob, wow - then they get theirs painted by a factory nobody and HEY IT LOOKS DIFFERENT! Yes, it does. One is a labor of love, one is someone just getting through the day and being paid $1.50 for a HUGE job like painting a PF.

In comparison, HT paints are surprisingly uniform.

 

[Ramatuelle]

I still think he's looking great! *_*

Source: Instagram

Good lord. *faints*

The last pic really shows the difference between the two versions. The WS one looks more hunted, you can almost see the skull beneath the skin and looks as if he's not eating very well. The Bucky version is sleeked out, he's got some decent food, he's washed his hair and is no longer living hand-to-mouth. Its pretty amazing for a toy company to have sculpts that subtle.

 

[TräshCät]

I don't wanna be the party pooper but can we please drop that already and get back to the figure? And by that I mean the actual figure and not photoshoped images of it or discussions about these photoshopped images ...

Quick, someone who owns this Buck here already save this thread and post some pictures.