It helps flesh out one of the biggest complaints, the Joker and Harley relationship is almost changed entirely in the EC. I like it a lot. 
Not even close.
I haven't seen it yet but again I've read/seen numerous reviews that the film manages to not accomplish much of anything in its extended form. Most seem to agree that most of the added stuff is just fluff that feels like deleted scenes that were obviously deleted for a reason or that it pads out some of the more stupid parts of the film.That's just wrong.
Huh? The only thing Leto's Joker manages to be is a pale imitation of Ledger's Joker. Even not just going by how he looks (which truly what an awful design) to his mannerisms come off like he's trying so hard and failing in every way. I don't completely blame Leto because he had a hard act to follow and he's not a bad actor but his Joker sucked hard.
Well you should definitely watch it, there's no point in just believing something without forming your own opinion first.
Well, he looks nothing like Ledger's version. No scars, no long hair, no make-up, complete different laugh etc. His mannerisms and lines were delivered with just as much care however. I love "Will you PICK up the PACE!" and the entire new sequence with him and Harley. "ahhh you, you.. you're a pain in the ***."
As far as comic bookness goes, he's the closest we got IMO. We got the classic ACE chemicals origin it seems, a joker with a look that's much closer to how he's drawn in the comics.
I mean, when have we ever seen anything this close to the Joker on the big screen? Never.
And he's still got those classic traits that the joker should have, unpredictability, homicidal, insane, and fun to watch.
Leto is a great Joker. If you can't get over a few tattoos that's your problem IMO, not the character's.
exactly, he only had 10 minutes of screen-time, and IMO he killed that 10 minutes. he was great. but for those on the edge they should at least wait until he is a major role to the story and not just a certain character (harley) like in Suicide Squad.
the simple truth is, you can't have suicide squad without Harley, (at least in today's world) and you can't explain Harley without Joker. So that's what they did.
I plan to. I actually liked aspects of the film just not Leto. I am inclined to believe what I've heard though as the people I've heard it from I regularly watch/read and tend to agree with.
I'm not saying Ledger was a great comic Joker but I liked the interpretation more. At least he didn't come off as some methed out gangster impersonating The Joker. Leto has some of the physical attributes of the character but by and large the look they went with for the character with the ridiculous tattoos and grill killed it. It isn't so much the fact that he has tattoos but the ones he has that are so character specific look dumb. Also that cackle of a laugh he did is awful.
Harley is the one with the origin in the film not Joker. The Burton film handled the origin of Joker and did it better.
Really what did he do that was characteric of The Joker? He kind of looked the part but really he was more or less some insane gangster. He didn't have any crazy plots or anything kind of funny. He basically seemed to be trying to one up Ledger's performance by making his take seem more crazy even down to basically using a very similar voice.
there's only one new scene with joker and one that's extended. the other 10 minutes are focused on HQ/the squad.
that's what i said, go back and read my post. i'm just making the assumption that this is his origin as he takes Harely there. Joker for the most part is there to help show the audience who HQ is.
He is but there's something about the Leto version that's off to me. I think it's because he comes off as more of a wannabe gangster thug kind of character whereas The Joker to me is more like a mob type.the joker is an insane gangster. that's what he is.
