HOT TOYS STAR WARS licence?

[metaphorge]

Re: Wistful thinking: Hot Toys and Star Wars

I mean there is just so much to do and by trying to do things the way SS is it allows all fans of SW to be included. If you just limit the choices that can have some fans thinking, "when are we gonna get some love?".

By this logic, then why not more licensees and more figures? As long as they're not eating each others lunches by covering the same ground, I don't see a drawback. And I want a Grievous at some point, and I think that Hot Toys is the only company that could and would deliver a good one.

 

[MaulFan]

Re: Wistful thinking: Hot Toys and Star Wars

A drawback to multiple manufacturers having the SW 1/6 license means it would force many collector's to miss out on things. So far, there's only been the addition of Boba and Jango to the Medi line, so it's slow pace is ok with Sideshow's rolling, but if HT started rolling figures out and at a fairly good pace, I and many other would probably be faced with having to pass on different figures due to the costs, whereas by one license having a line, there's a release flow and ability to work your funds. Shy of an incident like last fall, Sideshow's figures have shipped fairly apart, but if say a Sideshow figure or two plus a Medi plus an HT figure shipped at once, many people would be jammed up. There are plusses to having companies almost competing on a license, but from the standpoint of collecting without unlimited financial resources, it's only likely to cause collectors to have collections which are missing pieces they really want in them.

 

[bcm77]

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Hot Toys seem to be fearless about attempting never before done items with unique molds and were they to start making 1/6 SW figures it's almost scary to think what they could come up with,

SSC "Armor is difficult"

Hot Toys "1/6 scale AT-AT? Piece of cake!" "Have a fully articulated real fur Chewbacca that actually looks good while you wait"

I know it's not the popular view here but I think that SSC for the most part make utter garbage in 1/6 scale and their constant excuses for the lack of armored figures and new bodies sounds ever more lame especially when you get a company like Character Options releasing a couple of excellently detailed armored figures for under £20. Hot Toys and Medicom sharing the SW license would be a dream set up and for all the arguments about the higher prices there's no doubt that the quality of the product would be worlds apart from the glorified Hasbros that SSC continue to make.

 

[thundergod]

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Can I just ask where these "excuses for lack of armoured figures " come from ? I don't recall reading any comments from SST representatives regarding the game plan of figure releases . I am willing to concede that these statements exist somewhere ( I've just missed them ) but isn't it more likely that it's just a case of speculative comments on threads such as this one becoming "official" by being repeated over and over ? As for "utter garbage in 1/6 scale", well I'm sorry, but come on!

 

[bluesparrow]

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My problems with the regular sideshow body:

-the front-back motion on the shoulders cannot hold a pose well. It always seems to fall back to it's original position when no more pressure is applied.

-the shoulders are not wide enough, especially considering the size of Sideshow heads.

-the giant gap in the hips causes a cavity in that area on any figure wearing pants.

-The neck does not take very many poses.

-The arms don't take very many poses.



I too object to the "utter garbage" comment. While I felt that the rehash Legacy Pierce Brosnan Bond figure was in fact trash(bad paint, cheap outfit, cheap accessories), figures such as the Endor Troopers or Bib Fortuna are excellent, not to mention the LOTR figures. They're just far better when you swap out the bodies.

 

[bcm77]

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Can I just ask where these "excuses for lack of armoured figures " come from ? I don't recall reading any comments from SST representatives regarding the game plan of figure releases . I am willing to concede that these statements exist somewhere ( I've just missed them ) but isn't it more likely that it's just a case of speculative comments on threads such as this one becoming "official" by being repeated over and over ? As for "utter garbage in 1/6 scale", well I'm sorry, but come on!

It possibly did come from some speculative comment but I do seem to remember SSC saying a while back that they probably wouldn't be doing armored figures for another 2 years (some BS reason was given). And when they are also selling some of Medicom's armored figures it doesn't really seem like they are overly enthusiastic about doing their own,likely because they would struggle to come close to the same quality. As for the "utter garbage" comment I guess I must have higher standards of what constitutes a quality 1/6 figure than you. If you are happy collecting SSC figures that's fine,I really tried getting into them but quickly got tired of paying out for figures which rarely looked as good as the protos that only looked decent when a talented customiser had gone to work on it,not when I could save a bit and get a work of art such as the Medicom Stormtrooper or either of the Fetts.

 

[thundergod]

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" Higher standards" ! I think what's needed here my friend is a little perspective . I customize my H.T marines to a pretty high standard ( IMHO) to get them as screen accurate as possible . My point is that at the price S.S.T puts their figures out , I think there is little to complain about .Would you rather they released armoured figures early on and then improved/updated them every 12 months or so ? If you would rather pay 3 times the price for Medicoms items , well that's your decision ,after all , no-one has a gun to your head forcing you to buy the S.S.T stuff . But please , don't just slag off S.S.T as a matter of course if you have no interest in the line . I could launch an attack on Medicom ,( Extortionate Prices ! Too Small!! Black Hole Trooper!!! Who gives a S$%t !!!) but I won't because I have no real interest in the line but as they say " different strokes" and all that . Perspective , this is meant to be a fun hobby , not life or death . ( But then again , I DO have such low standards!)

 

[JGouse0498]

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I think bcm77 is thinking of SSC's explanation about the lack of removable helmet figures (which included armored figures in general, I believe). Sideshow kept saying that it was difficult to do because either the helmets would be oversized and out of scale or the heads would be too small (and again out of scale).

Personally, I don't see the difficulty because Medicom has done it already with Vader (ROTS/ROTJ).

 

[PosterBoyKelly]

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I don't get how MORE 1/6 Star Wars figures are a bad thing? Especially by Hot Toys. WTF? Seriously? It would be great, plus the more the merrier. Why limit the market? I also think HT would bring a happy medium to the party. Hardcore Medi fans hate the bodies/sculpts of SS figures, hardcore SS fans dislike the size of Medicoms. Hot Toys would NO DOUBT be just up everyones alley. Great on all levels and it would force better products from the other companies to compete.

 

[The Josh]

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By this logic, then why not more licensees and more figures? As long as they're not eating each others lunches by covering the same ground, I don't see a drawback. And I want a Grievous at some point, and I think that Hot Toys is the only company that could and would deliver a good one.

It's a little different type thing here though. It's up the the person or persons selling the license to decide who and how many sell the product. HT might be able to but I think it would be the most exspensive product they've done. In order to capture the detail needed on him. Also since SS has already done him in 1:4 I don't see them not being able to do him in 1:6th

I know it's not the popular view here but I think that SSC for the most part make utter garbage in 1/6 scale and their constant excuses for the lack of armored figures and new bodies sounds ever more lame especially when you get a company like Character Options releasing a couple of excellently detailed armored figures for under £20. Hot Toys and Medicom sharing the SW license would be a dream set up and for all the arguments about the higher prices there's no doubt that the quality of the product would be worlds apart from the glorified Hasbros that SSC continue to make.

You're here why exactly? If SS products are what you're saying then why are you here? Just to tell us that do like it how much cooler Medicom and HT is? That's kind of lame really? I like Medicom's stuff as I've said countless times but for any of the stuff I dont like you wouldn't see me at your precious Medi board saying how ****ty it was.

I'm all up for shairing opinions and open discussion(even if it's someone saying they don't like a product) but if someone is gonna be here just to tell us over and over why SS sucks. Then why be here? There has to be a board where you can do this all day long and everyone will be ok with it.

Personally, I don't see the difficulty because Medicom has done it already with Vader (ROTS/ROTJ).

I don't think Vader's head inside the helm is normal size.

 

[The Josh]

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I don't get how MORE 1/6 Star Wars figures are a bad thing? Especially by Hot Toys. WTF? Seriously? It would be great, plus the more the merrier. Why limit the market? I also think HT would bring a happy medium to the party. Hardcore Medi fans hate the bodies/sculpts of SS figures, hardcore SS fans dislike the size of Medicoms. Hot Toys would NO DOUBT be just up everyones alley. Great on all levels and it would force better products from the other companies to compete.

I'm a hardcore SS Fan and I like Medicom. Thats why I have Vader and the BHST already. Jango and Boba on order along with a ROTS that's being customized. Oh yeah then you toss in the Custom Cody I bought from Hurricane which was customzed from a Medicom Clone.

 

[bcm77]

Re: Wistful thinking: Hot Toys and Star Wars

Josh,
Unless I'm mistaken making negative remarks about SSC doesn't violate any of the boards rules and while non SSC stuff is also discussed here I will continue to post regardless of whether you think I should or not. I have said a few times before that I think SSC make some of the best high end collectibles around many of which I would have no hesitations about buying were they within my main area of intrest. It's only their 1/6 figures I feel are lacking and the Star Wars line has so far for me been a case of wasted potential. Maybe I'm a bit over the top with my criticisms sometimes but like you I'm passionate about a particular type of collectible and if I feel SSC,Medicom,Hot Toys,whoever aren't delivering the goods then I won't hold back on saying what I feel so if you don't like what I have to say then there's always the "Ignore" option.

 

[wax murderer]

Re: Wistful thinking: Hot Toys and Star Wars

More stirring: My custom Vader has a properly sized head and a reveal helmet, as do hurricane's. If we can do it(and hurricane has many times), then it's not as big a problem as some would have you believe. Next...PS

 

[The Josh]

Re: Wistful thinking: Hot Toys and Star Wars

Josh,
Unless I'm mistaken making negative remarks about SSC doesn't violate any of the boards rules and while non SSC stuff is also discussed here I will continue to post regardless of whether you think I should or not. I have said a few times before that I think SSC make some of the best high end collectibles around many of which I would have no hesitations about buying were they within my main area of intrest. It's only their 1/6 figures I feel are lacking and the Star Wars line has so far for me been a case of wasted potential. Maybe I'm a bit over the top with my criticisms sometimes but like you I'm passionate about a particular type of collectible and if I feel SSC,Medicom,Hot Toys,whoever aren't delivering the goods then I won't hold back on saying what I feel so if you don't like what I have to say then there's always the "Ignore" option.

No it doesn't violate any board rules. However, it makes no sense to be here talking about how crappy their products are. Seems like a waste of time to me. As I said I wouldn't go to another board and do that but that's just me. I understand being pationate about a product, company, sports team, etc. However, I try to choose my words a little more carefully than you do it seems when I do talk about something I don't like from HT (as an example). I think your comments are a little more than over the top honestly. Especially on a board for people who are fans of the company and the products they make. Again, I wouldn't go to the Medicom Board and trash their stuff I don't like.

The ignore option is a total possibility with you since you seem to not care that trashing a companies products on a fan site is kind of pointless. Medicom makes SW products so why not just stay their talk about what you like about them and just leave us and our inferior products as you feel alone. I personally wouldn't want to waste my time on a board talking about stuff I don't like. However, maybe you just have way more time on your hands than I do.

 

[Anzik]

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Its pretty inflammatory to go on a board where the majority of members have shelled out alot of cash for the figures you're calling pure garbage.

I don't think Medi has sold nearly as many figures of a given character simply because they are priced out of the range of what many are willing to spend. By that way of thinking, if you spend enough you can have the best figure.

Who produces the best is a matter of opinion, but I have yet to get the opinion of any casual observer that isn't impressed with my SSC figures. I really don't think most people would look at two examples side by side could tell much of a difference between Medi and SSC at least not a $100 difference.

 

[PosterBoyKelly]

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I really don't think most people would look at two examples side by side could tell much of a difference between Medi and SSC at least not a $100 difference.

But the people who couldn't would think any of us are nuts for spending even $60 on a SS figure, let alone the Medi price.

All I'm saying, is how is it a bad thing to have another player in the game? DUDES....WE WIN! MORE awesome figures, MORE competition= BETTER PRODUCTS! How is HT making Star Wars 12" figures bad in ANY WAY AT ALL? I just don't get the complaints is all.

 

[The Josh]

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I personally don't care if HT does. I don't look at it as a bad thing per say. My comments where coming from another angle.

 

[Captain Faramir]

Re: Wistful thinking: Hot Toys and Star Wars

Darth Vader doesn't really count for the helmet issue because he has no hair. That's obviously not going to be an issue. Now, however, imagine getting a helmet on SSC Anakin; his hair would get in the way! All the Endor Troopers have minimal hair, ala Brant's slicked back look. The difficulty is in giving lifelike hair but also making helmets, which would either require hair plastered to the figure's head or a really big helmet. Also remember how a removable helmet would wear down a paint job. Hence the interchangeable heads.

 

[EVILFACE]

Re: Wistful thinking: Hot Toys and Star Wars

Damn, nothing but a broken record here.

 

[JABBATHERIDGE]

Re: Wistful thinking: Hot Toys and Star Wars

I wouldn't mind seeing Hot Toys get the license as well, as it would give fans a third option, whether I'd have the cash to buy many of them or not is another matter, but I'd be interested to see what they'd come up with in relation to Medi and SSC.