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Re: Sideshow or Hot Toys for SW 12 inch?

You do realize that this seriously hampers your opinion and demolishes the point you were trying to make, right?

Not really because I really think other companies such as Dragon or DiD could do a better job than SideShow. But unfortunately they're not in the equation, so I wanted to open the door a little. :(
 
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OK great Ape..seeing as how you have Sideshow all figured out to the point where they can't surprise you any more. Tell me what the next release will be for each line they do.

I love Sideshow. But when you compare the mannequins of Sideshow and Hot Toys, and the detail in the costumes, Hot Toys edges out Sideshow...barely.
 
Re: Sideshow or Hot Toys for SW 12 inch?

Not barely, imho. Hot Toys is so far ahead of everyone else in engineering it's not even funny.
 
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DID kinda sucks though. Their bodies are horrible, the rooted hair sounds better than it actually looks, and their sculpts aren't all that great either.

Now, don't get me wrong... the clothing and accessories are TOPS though. I use a LOT of their parts, just not bodies or the rooted hair sculpts (that often anyway).

DID would make a mockery of SW in my opinion.

HT would do fantastic work, but at a higher price point. SSC has done great things with SW and for a nice price. But eventually I would LOVE to see what HT could do with the license. They are most certainly the best 1:6 figure manufacturer out there, IMO.
 
Re: Sideshow or Hot Toys for SW 12 inch?

Not barely, imho. Hot Toys is so far ahead of everyone else in engineering it's not even funny.
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Re: Sideshow or Hot Toys for SW 12 inch?

The stuff Hot Toys has coming is just really, really incredible.

Imagine them doing some complex, detail-heavy Star Wars charcters. Like Han and Luke in Hoth gear. Complete with all their related equipment.

With Sideshow, I pretty much KNOW they'd deliver a figure with say one highlight piece to the kit, and the rest would be very 2002 quality. The face would be a little wonky and people would debate the likeness endlessly.

Where with Hot Toys, I'd have this great figure in my head, and what they would actually deliver would be much, much better.

Same with Indiana Jones and every other license.

We need a company that wants to create perfection. Not a company that just wants to horde all the licenses and boast about it every chance they get.

In my opinion, STAR WARS ITSELF would actually be COOLER if Hot Toys created their own OT line. :monkey3
 
Re: Sideshow or Hot Toys for SW 12 inch?

I pretty much see it like most people here: HT doing SW, that would be IT! Great results at a fair price.

BUT I don't want to give either company the impression that I cash out $120 mindlessly for their 12" figures. That's absolutely not the message I want them to receive. After all, there are other things in life that cost money. I think these companies should concider that also.

I was pretty happy with what Sideshow did... for $60. But, since they have raised their prices so harshly over the last 5 or 6 months, I got really alienated from them. Sorry Sideshow.
 
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I honestly NEVER want to see HT exclusively produce the SW 1/6 line and Sideshow stop. I'd like something like Medicom where they do a few highlight pieces or whatever, but at their figure costs, even more than Sideshow I'd have to reduce what I get and I've enjoyed being able to build a full collection of SW 1/6 figures in the high end world, HT taking over would kill that for me.
 
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I am completely happy with what SS is doing, but I think HT does some amazing stuff. I'm not too keen anymore about buying 1/6 figures for the $130 price point, though.

:emperor Oh, and this thread is a breeding ground for Medi-kids. :emperor
 
Re: Sideshow or Hot Toys for SW 12 inch?

I can afford the SSC SW line well just the Sith characters :naughty. As for HT, well they have done an EXCELLENT job w/the ALIEN vs PREDATOR line (and in proper scale too?); and the recent pics of THE DARK KNIGHT fig to boot. I think HT would be the top contender for SW. Medicom would be a close 2nd, and SSC 3rd. Does anyone know why HT doesn't have the licence for a SW line? :confused:
 
Re: Sideshow or Hot Toys for SW 12 inch?

I have been pleased with sideshow. I think they give you a great product for the price. I have been collecting with them since the Platoon series. Their customer service is top notch and that is something that means a LOT to me. I like that they always try to accomidate me and have even returned calls a few hours later after PPOs when I have had questions.

I have several Hot Toys (Chopper,alien, Colonial Marines) and they are great products too. For 120-140$ a little on the expensive side. I think that SSC could give us the same quality and accessories for the 75-90$ range.

General Kenobi is a good example. We will have to wait and see all the goodies that accompany but for 90$ it is a good deal. Armored figure. Good sculpt. Beats 150$ in my book.

Also I have several Marmit figures that I picked up while in Japan. They had a good thing going but, price and lack of an American outlet seemed to force them out of business.

Loyal to a fault. My vote goes with Sideshow. :chew
 
Re: Sideshow or Hot Toys for SW 12 inch?

Say they each made 6 figures per year.

Say each were $120.

Which would you rather have?

Based on this HT would be my choice hands down.
When SS made $60 SW figures I was very happy with the balance of quality and affordability. Now that they're creeping towards HT prices but not HT quality I'd rather Hot Toys aquire the license.

Aayla is a good example of this. That figure is shaping up to be mediocre at best. HT would have knocked it out of the park and I would have gladly paid $120 for her.
 
Re: Sideshow or Hot Toys for SW 12 inch?

If all things remained the same and SSC charged $120 for the current $60-$80 quality then its obvious that HT at $120 is a better value.

But although SSCs prices have gone up to $80 on some figures recently, $120 is still 50%more than $80.

So are you implying that SSC would not up their quality by say a similar 50% or they would?

A 50% upgrade to SSC product would be huge and perhaps worthy or additional price.
 
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Not barely, imho. Hot Toys is so far ahead of everyone else in engineering it's not even funny.

You would have to show me this because I don't see it. Hot Toys Mannequins are better for articulation, but break as much as Medicom's. So they pretty much even out there. And if the new Prometheus body is a high-quality item...the advantage gets tipped toward Sideshow.

It has been stated that we are looking at a 120.00 price point so cost is an even playing field...no winner. But you have to take into consideration that at 120.00...Sideshow could add a lot to their figures because we are getting awesome figures for at least 30 dollars a figure less than that right now. Think of the improvement Sideshow could make at an extra 30.00 per figure. Of course, Hot Toys Predators are the ones that are 120.00+. The Human figures like the Colonial Marines were down around 90.00 if I remember correctly. So Hot Toys would have extra funds for developement as well. So maybe Hot Toys could edge out Sideshow on that one.

Sculpts and paint apps are a matter of preference. I do not care if mine look like the actors, but I want them to represent the character well. And I also like as much realism as possible. The 2 companies are pretty even for representation of non-human characters and I think Sideshow gives me what I want better in human sculpts and paint apps. So Sideshow wins that one...barely.

Intricacy of sculpts on machines can't really be judged as Sideshow has not yet done anything like the Power Loader or the Terminators in 1:6 scale. But judging by the PF Grievous and Anakin's mechanical arm. I think they would do just fine. Hot Toys edges out Sideshow in that aspect just for having proven themselves already. But they only edge out Sideshow because Sideshow MAY do just as well...we don't know.

Costumes are pretty even between each company. I have to give Sideshow a slight edge because both companies give enough detail to things like functioning pockets and scaled zippers. But the Sideshow costumes just seem to be a little sturdier to me.

And another VERY Important aspect to me is accessories. Both companies pay enough attention to detail to give us functioning pouches and packs. Sideshow gave us the great detail and functional folding stock on the Stormtrooper blaster. But Hot Toys wins out because they tend to have even more accessories, and more functionality to the small pieces like removeable magazines for the Aliens pulse rifles. And with everything else being so close, but tipping Sideshow's way, this aspect pulls Hot Toys to the top...barely.

I think Sideshow wins Hands-down in the packaging department. But I also don't give a monkey's nut about how pretty the packaging is. That figures into the cost of the figure as well, and I would certainly prefer more accessories to a pretty box. But still, Sideshow DOES have the best box for every aspect of the packaging purpose. You also have to add in that they include outer shipping packaging designed to protect the box. THE FREAKIN' PACKAGING HAS PROTECTIVE PACKAGING (I am laughing as I type that). But even though I don't care how great the packaging is...I still want the packaging to be in good shape.

Edit 1 - Actually, I am fine with Medicom's packaging. I don't even LIKE Hot Toy's because they have that reflective aspect to them that makes displaying them in a direct light a pain in the butt.

Edit 2 - Buddy Gus touched on something that I missed. Customer service. The way Sideshow is so good with customer service adds to the price of the figure as well. How many broken Hot Toys pieces has anyone been able to easily replace? - I may have to switch my opinion to Sideshow winning...barely.

Edit 3 - Oh, yeah...and I want all of my 1:6 scale to match without having to re-buy every one of them...AGAIN! No clear winner yet, but Sideshow just pulled a little farther ahead...and it is the last lap of the race.
 
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