An HT Maul would be like the love child of Medicom and Sideshow's Maul. Both really nice figures, each having the wrong traits of the other done right, but no one figure with all of them together, HT would be just that.
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Hopefully Jedi Luke will be redone by Sideshow when they get to Speederbikes under the guise of Endor Luke. I don't think it justifies the use of HT.
Problem is, they'll likely just do a sculpted helmet as part of his head, or the hair will be all slicked down like the Endor Troops, either way, people looking for ROTJ Luke upgrade wouldn't get it that way. Maybe they'd do a new portrait with regular hair, but with no precedent yet, hard to tell if they'd totally redo him like that.
Tattooed muscle body, realistic paint texture, realistic horns. I couldn't resist.
(I'd almost have to have his speeder as well)
I asked this elsewhere and didn't really get an answer, but I'm curious--for you guys who make this argument, what are the lines that Hot Toys finished too quickly, where sales warranted their continuing said line? It sucked that Watchmen only got two characters deep, but those figures didn't seem to sell very well, so I'm not sure it made financial sense for HT to keep churning those figures out. Mike mentions Predator--are they neglecting some component of the Predator franchise that people are upset about (the only thing I know if is the humans from Predator, but likeness costs and the lack of "Billy" sales probably played some role there)? I'm genuinely curious about this. Personally, I just don't think they've run across a license yet that warranted getting in too deep beyond what they have done, but I might be missing something.
ME too, and I agree, that would rock, especially if it was DX style - two heads - one extreme/neutral expression, with Sith Robes and accessories....AND YOU KNOW they would tat up his whole body to match the EU aspect of the character
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Well this is a different question than the point I was making. The point I was making was that HT isn't known for in-depth lines meaning they are finite right off the bat. Whereas SSC for example had the gameplan to continue the line for years which is why we got some obsecure and secondary characters early on and continue to do so. Early on into the line we got Plo Koon and Kit Fisto, Endor Soldiers, I don't see HT "wasting" their time with that. They'll hit Luke, Vader, Boba Fett, Chewie, the Droids, Han, Leia maybe Obi-Wan, a stormtrooper from the OT and then move on. I wouldn't even expect multiples of the characters.
Now as for the question posed the lines are pretty straightforward in terms of who was missed. For Aliens we got Hicks, Apone and Vasquez. The biggest missing piece that many were calling for was Bishop especially after the second wave of Marines. Superman Returns never got a Lex or a Lois both mentioned in blurbs with Supes. Batman Begins never received the main villain Ras Al Ghul and only now is it getting a Scarecrow. AvP never received a Lexi even though we got Cosbabies from it and it was rumored heavily. Pirates is missing Barbossa, a much bigger part of the license than Davy Jones or Sao Fang. Planet of the Apes is missing any human characters or even Zaius or Cornelius. Iron Man never got Iron Monger or even an attempt at a Obi in a TT. You mentioned Watchmen which is the most glaring. Iron Man 2 is still missing an Iron Monger II. Wolverine Origins has no Sabretooth or anyone else for that matter. 300 has only Leonidas. Clash of the Titans with only Peresus. Prince of Persia, The Godfather both more examples of one and dones.
Now you can argue that low sales or even character choice had something to do with it, but the point is that the lines were abandoned and for some of those lines especially the older ones, they were selling just fine. The fact is that HT has no problem just walking away and moving onto something else.
Sure Luke will sell fine, Vader but what if they release Leia and she tanks? Historically the figures don't move as fast and MR used to joke that girl props always equaled low sales. HT historically would walk releasing whomever was in the chamber and that's it. Their Indy if followed by Belloq for example will kill the line which is why people are clammering for a Mola Ram right away because they know they might not get it.
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Qrest Fourstar
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ALIEN was a big letdown from Hot toys. I got Dallas and the Big Chap in hopes they would produce more. Hell, All they need to do is 10 figures to cover all the necessary characters.
Nope. Kan Dallas and the alien. Done.
Hell, not even a Ripley in space suit? Scuplt a head and redo the existing mold in white?
Major let down.
Nope. Kan Dallas and the alien. Done.
Hell, not even a Ripley in space suit? Scuplt a head and redo the existing mold in white?
Major let down.
I agree that Hot Toys usually doesn't get into the in-depth licenses, but the argument as I have heard it previously isn't your initial point, but rather criticizing HT for not finishing the lines they start. I appreciate you listing out various examples here, and of those, I actually do see a couple that I think might have warranted a couple more releases, anyway, where likeness rights presumably wouldn't have played a huge role. Thinking of Sabretooth and Barbossa. Both are reasonably well-known and popular secondary characters, both actors playing those parts very likely signed all likeness rights away with their film contracts (though maybe they didn't?), and I imagine that they would have sold. At least relative to some other Hot Toys releases I've seen. But in the majority of other cases I don't think the argument (that Hot Toys does not finish lines that it should) holds as well.
Wanting them to produce more obscure characters is one thing, but would it make financial sense for Hot Toys to release a Bishop without Henrikson's likeness, Lois Lane from Returns (who just looks like some random chick, IMO), or Dr. Zauis after the other figures released in POTA flopped?
To Qrest, I believe that Weaver would not allow her likeness to be used for whatever Hot Toys was willing to offer. Same accounts for Kane looking like Freddy Mercury. Sure, they could have released another generic looking figure, but they probably didn't expect that to sell very well. I would prefer them to hold off until they get Ripley likeness rights. If not, I would see no reason to pick that figure up. At least Kane got the awesome face hugger head.
What'd really rock is Darth Maul with PERS, would have to be like Batman where you come up through the bottom of the head. I like the look of the Medicom eyes up in his head like that, but it doesn't suit every pose. If you could put him in saber poses with the option to do all sorts of positions with his eyes, that'd be so badass.
Thing I'd like a lot is the skin texture, while most figures don't need as much as what HT does, Ray's skin texture really pops in a lot of shots of Maul because of the face paint.
The real question would be how they do his tats on his face, there's much variation to that over the shots in TPM because of inconsistencies with makeup.
I personally like them this way.
Mike was able to list out I brought up the other day and have in the past. Not finishing the lines they start is exactly what I think Mike said but as I said he just listed it out. The lines they've cut short are all lines that have at least appeared to sell quite well over all. Now, of course there are likeness issues that can come up but its a valid concern when it comes to HT.
PRIME
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It may be, but still those bodies won't be floppy like rag dolls.
agree sideshow indy suck as-s they should a included a wheelchair cant even pose it standing up ...
My dream would be 1/6 Luke in gear with X-Wing
But
My nightmare would be 1/6 Luke in gear with X-Wing as there is no way in my life I can have space to disaplay that but to me that is the ultimate (as 1/6 Millenium Falcon is just absurd)
But
My nightmare would be 1/6 Luke in gear with X-Wing as there is no way in my life I can have space to disaplay that but to me that is the ultimate (as 1/6 Millenium Falcon is just absurd)
devilof76
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1:6 X-Wing is not so absurd.
HT will make what will sell to their eastern market. IMO this gets lost many 'wish list' which is why both SS and HT can co-exist in this market. HT would produce figures popular in eastern market not what the standard western collector would want. SS can take care of that need and HT would be more nitche figures.
I would be dead surprised if SSC was giving the SW license to HT. More than likely they have given certain characters to HT to develop and release with SS as a distributor. But the entire license? I doubt it.
SS will continue doing their thing and HT would make a few heavy hitters and call it a day. Anyone wanting an extensive line from HT will be disappointed IMO.- Status
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