Hot Toys- Terminator 2: Sarah Connor full spec and pics

[DiFabio]

Difabio I suppose there doesn't have to be an original human candidate on whom the T-800 fleshies were based but I do still find it a more interesting idea than Skynet just 'made them up'.

Thats kind of like the 'why does there have to be a creator of the universe, why couldn't the universe itself just always have been?' question.

Yeah but why would the Cyberdyne Systems Model 101 be so important? It's not Model 001 and there are 100 models (skin, faces, body types) before it.

Other than being "Arnold" to us in the movie, merchandise and marketing it's just a regular cyborg that happens to be mistaken as the same "guy" that killed police officers in 1984, and of course Sarah recognizing it as the same model.

I think Terminator 3 gave people the misconception that every T-800 that was made was the "Arnold" model. That would be like saying Skynet is Arnold and created all the machines in his own image.

While it's fun to conceptualize backgrounds I personally think that the CSM 101 T-800 is just a Skynet creation. I don't think it pulled up documents of an Austrian body builder, files on an annoying Sergeant, or information about a soldier turned alien warrior.

It just cheapens it for me when too much background information is revealed (like Boba Fett for instance) or writers fall back on the "clone" or secret brother concept. Is Danny Glover the template for the model 69? Is the T-1000 based on a resistance fighter that Skynet found interesting or is it's template Robert Patrick's character from Die Hard 2?

As with life sometimes, things just are and there isn't a reason, explanation, or origin for them.

The Model 101 is iconic to Sarah Connor, John Connor, the authorities in fiction and iconic to us as the audience.

 

[a-dev]

One day I will rectify this appalling situation and purchase the entire catalogue of Arnie films.

 

[thenammagazine]

Yeah but why would the Cyberdyne Systems Model 101 be so important? It's not Model 001 and there are 100 models before it.

Because that specific model has become crucial to the story of John Connor. Given that very basis, it's completely understandable why the "Arnie" version would be a priority.

Other than being "Arnold" to us in the movie, merchandise and marketing it's just a regular cyborg that happens to be mistaken as the same "guy" that killed police officers in 1984, and of course Sarah recognizing it as the same model.

See above.

I think Terminator 3 gave people the misconception that every T-800 that was made was the "Arnold" model. That would be like saying Skynet is Arnold and created all the machines in his own image.

Only you. In a future scene, Frank Colombo appeared as a T-800 in T1. There's also the T-800 from SCC if you consider that cannon.

While it's fun to conceptualize backgrounds I personally think that the CSM 101 T-800 is just a Skynet creation. I don't think it pulled up documents of an Austrian body builder, files on an annoying Sergeant, or information about a soldier turned alien warrior.

While I'd agree, it's a story element that has been wholly discussed and potentially Arnold returning to the Terminator franchise post Governorship to help flesh out. So long as it's done right and not cheesy, I have no issues with it.

It just cheapens it for me when too much background information is revealed (like Boba Fett for instance) or writers fall back on the "clone" or secret brother concept. Is Danny Glover the template for the model 69? Is the T-1000 based on a resistance fighter that Skynet found interesting or is it's template Robert Patrick's character from Die Hard 2?

I think you're over-thinking it too hard. Much like the freak who thought the whole "antagonist" issue in the SW Prequels was too confusing.

 

[DiFabio]

Because that specific model has become crucial to the story of John Connor. Given that very basis, it's completely understandable why the "Arnie" version would be a priority.
See above.

Only you. In a future scene, Frank Colombo appeared as a T-800 in T1. There's also the T-800 from SCC if you consider that cannon.

Yeah I know, I agree with all of that.

Do you guys remember Franco Columbu from the first Terminator? There you go, a completely different model number for the T-800. He was supposed to be in T2 in an extend future sequence until they dropped the whole back story. He might have been Model 001 or Model 091 who knows.

Skynet is a super computer from the future, the closest thing to God. It learns and creates all the different Terminator machines and the skin. The Model 101 that we all know and love from the first two films is just an infiltrator variation for the T-800. John Connor is emotionally attached to the 101, obviously but Skynet? No, I'm guessing it sent the Model 101 back to 1984 because that was the latest model number. Skynet doesn't care if it looked like Arnold or anyone else, it's just a cyborg that it used to save it's ass.

And no, personally I don't think T3, Salvation, SCC are canon. Maybe possible futures.

As far as the story goes all I'm saying is that Skynet picked a random Terminator to send back in time to kill Sarah Connor in 1984. It happened to be the Model 101 "Arnold" that we all know and love. Then in 2029 Connor sent back that same model to protect him. It's important to those 3-4 people/groups by coincidence and plot not some overly fantastic model number that skynet loves because it was inspired by the "Arnold look/build" from the past (unless Skynet is really a fruit, fan or some chick that was obsessed with Arnold/Arnold type character after following everything he did since pumping iron ).

What would be the point of infiltration if the T-800 with skin had a recognizable likeness? "Oh its THAT one, HIM. Blow it up before it comes into our bunker and shelter and kills us!"

Screw that "assembly line" bull____ from T3. I'm sure as far as story goes in the first 2 films that there are only 10 Arnold models, 2 of which were used/terminated. 10 Columbu models (1 of which we've seen) and HUNDREDS of other models in groups of 10 (men, women, thin, built etc). Then there are the rubber skinned mother ____ers (T-600) that were easy to spot and also the T-1000.

I think you're over-thinking it too hard. Much like the freak who thought the whole "antagonist" issue in the SW Prequels was too confusing.

I was being sarcastic about the "Danny Glover and Die Hard 2" examples. I tend to not over think these things. Isn't the antagonist of the prequels old Palps?

 

[Skiman]

I think this had gone beyond overthought .

 

[Voorhees27]

I must say i'm very excited to get Sarah ............. I think once Arnie arrived everything else will be just as welcoming. Can't wait til this one ships.

 

[MaulFan]

I must say i'm very excited to get Sarah ............. I think once Arnie arrived everything else will be just as welcoming. Can't wait til this one ships.

Agreed, as good as Arnie looked like he'd be, being able to take it all in face to face really sealed just how well done he is and Sarah seems like she'll be up to that level too, I think this whole line is going to look great.

 

[Matt13]

Anyone planning on changing her gear so its like when she escape pescadero?

 

[EVILFACE]

Might as well just buy her body and head loose if you are gonna do that.

 

[MaulFan]

At the prices those will go for, you'd actually be better off just buying the figure and selling the parts you don't use. If head and body are what you're after in a figure, those usually can add up to as much as a whole figure with eBay or even Toy Anxiety.

 

[EVILFACE]

Eh, prolly not.

Ebay is going to be flooded with parts left over from people combining Sarah and T1000 Sarah.

 

[MaulFan]

Maybe. I say if you have the Sideshow Sarah already, just bash that into a Pescadero to get some milage out of it, unless you only want a Pescadero Sarah.

 

[villainsfan42]

Agreed, as good as Arnie looked like he'd be, being able to take it all in face to face really sealed just how well done he is and Sarah seems like she'll be up to that level too, I think this whole line is going to look great.

 

[Rotfish]

To my shame I don't think I've ever seen Commando in full. Been a long time since I saw any of it for that matter.

Commando is like Joe Dirt. It's one of those movies that you love to watch, but don't want to get caught owning.

Then again, that's what movie channels are for .

 

[thenammagazine]

Commando is like Joe Dirt. It's one of those movies that you love to watch, but don't want to get caught owning.

Then again, that's what movie channels are for .

I'll have to remember to let my gay friend know that movie-owning rules have changed for him.

 

[Rotfish]

Just being honest; Commando was actually hilarious (and a tad cheesy at times). But damn it all, it was a good way to pass the time. Didn't have too many one-liners, but the ones it did have were genius.

 

[kairus]

those anyone know if the shot guns are the same on the sarah connors ver and the T1000 ver. cause the shells look another shade of color. seems a little metallic color on the t1000 shotguns ver.

 

[thenammagazine]

Just being honest; Commando was actually hilarious (and a tad cheesy at times). But damn it all, it was a good way to pass the time. Didn't have too many one-liners, but the ones it did have were genius.

Whether you're watching it for the campy 80's cheese or counting the umpteen bloopers, it's definitely a fun way to waste some time.

 

[EVILFACE]

Commando is like Joe Dirt. It's one of those movies that you love to watch, but don't want to get caught owning.

Then again, that's what movie channels are for .

What is wrong with Commando? It is the peak of the 80's action movie.

Joe Dirt? Just some throw away trash.

 

[thenammagazine]

What is wrong with Commando? It is the peak of the 80's action movie.

Joe Dirt? Just some throw away trash.

Apparently gays are ashamed to own it now. You'd think they'd be happy to own it, rooting for their hero, Bennett.