Hot Toys : The Crow ( Brandon Lee ) Sixth Scale Figure

[Darkavatar]

They are proof that you have some incredibly talented individuals who can focus their talent on a few pieces, but I cringe whenever I hear it being mass produced by an outfit like Hot Toys.

Ok so the idea is good but is not practically for 1/6 figures for mass production right? Gotcha!

I just thought people hated the idea of rooted hair to begin with, regardless whether it is custom or mass produced.

 

[Frank]

Ok so the idea is good but is not practically for 1/6 figures for mass production right? Gotcha!

I just thought people hated the idea of rooted hair to begin with, regardless whether it is custom or mass produced.

I can't deny there are some incredible customs that employ rooted hair of some kind, but you really have be a master at it. It goes without saying that if you want master class museum level replication, you need to approach those masters individually, not Hot Toys.

Though let me just say, Hot Toys is at the very top of their mass market class as far as accuracy(not QC) goes. That's how I'm able to collect them at any rate.

 

[Darkavatar]

I can't deny there are some incredible customs that employ rooted hair of some kind, but you really have be a master at it. It goes without saying that if you want master class museum level replication, you need to approach those masters individually, not Hot Toys.

Though let me just say, Hot Toys is at the very top of their mass market class as far as accuracy(not QC) goes. That's how I'm able to collect them at any rate.

At least their QC is not as bad as Enterbay though, you gotta admit that.

 

[Frank]

At least their QC is not as bad as Enterbay though, you gotta admit that.

It depends on which items you're talking about. On 1/6 figures I would agree. When it comes to big items like the $700+(w/shipping) 89 batmobile and 44 out of 104 report damage, there are hardly words to describe how bad that is. At least Enterbay knows enough to stay out of the 1/6 vehicle thing for the most part.

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[CollectorGuy]

At least their QC is not as bad as Enterbay though, you gotta admit that.

Enterbay has no qc to begin with, awesome sculpts aside they suck.

 

[Darkavatar]

It depends on which items you're talking about. On 1/6 figures I would agree. When it comes to big items like the $700+(w/shipping) 89 batmobile and 44 out of 104 report damage, there are hardly words to describe how bad that is.

Yeah it was the 1/6th thing I was talking about but you are right I totally forgot about the real bad QC the Batmobile has. I can't believe the amount of complaints, I watched a video and they said it is that shield cover that is causing those scuff marks. However, that doesn't explain the broken wheels and all those other problems people are having.

At least Enterbay knows enough to stay out of the 1/6 vehicle thing for the most part.

That is true, a smart move on their part.

 

[Frank]

Yeah it was the 1/6th thing I was talking about but you are right I totally forgot about the real bad QC the Batmobile has. I can't believe the amount of complaints, I watched a video and they said it is that shield cover that is causing those scuff marks. However, that doesn't explain the broken wheels and all those other problems people are having.




That is true, a smart move on their part.

So back to the Crow, I'd think extending his hair just a bit would be a perfect fix for HT. We shall see.

 

[Sidious-66]

I for one will be getting this guy for sure.

I think Hot Toys has done an excellent job so far on him and any improvements from here on out will be a bonus.

 

[Taibhse]

..I just thought people hated the idea of rooted hair to begin with, regardless whether it is custom or mass produced.

Yup.. guilty as charged.. not overly keen on 'clothes' in most cases, either.

 

[Intruder04]

What's it with 'clothes' now?

 

[Darkavatar]

What's it with 'clothes' now?

Don't ask, people think because it where clothes it is not a true sculptor of art but more like a toy barbie doll.

They just don't get the idea is to make it look as realistic as possible and sculpted clothes make it look more like a children's plastic toy as opposed to a person in a real suit.

 

[VintijDroidGutzz]

Afraid of a lil' futzing, are you?

Not at all.

I just like sculpted hair (when aesthetically practical), every time.

Ok so the idea is good but is not practically for 1/6 figures for mass production right? Gotcha!

I just thought people hated the idea of rooted hair to begin with, regardless whether it is custom or mass produced.

I don't like rooted hair to begin with.

..but the mass production point too - yes..

 

[Darkavatar]

Not at all.

I just like sculpted hair (when aesthetically practical), every time.





I don't like rooted hair to begin with.

..but the mass production point too - yes..

Nothing wrong with not liking rooted hair, it is your opinon and you have a right to it. TBH I don't like it that much but it does make a head sculpt look more realistic when done well, so do clothes when they are tailored well to.

 

[VintijDroidGutzz]

Nothing wrong with not liking rooted hair, it is your opinon and you have a right to it.

Damn straight buddy.

TBH I don't like it that much but it does make a head sculpt look more realistic when done well, so do clothes when they are tailored well to.

I love well tailored clothing for figures - as many others I'm sure.

The characters I still want could get away without rooted hair though, so my fingers are crossed.

 

[Taibhse]

What's it with 'clothes' now?

Don't ask, people think because it where clothes it is not a true sculptor of art but more like a toy barbie doll.

They just don't get the idea is to make it look as realistic as possible and sculpted clothes make it look more like a children's plastic toy as opposed to a person in a real suit.

Its simply because tbh in most (not all) cases, I don't think (*blasphemous personal opinion alert* ) even the best made clothes for collectible figures are that convincing.. shirts in particular.. and apart from the cloth items, a lot of the other materials (rubber, faux leather, anything with an elastic component, etc.) have a very definite 'best before date'.. after which they have a strong tendency to fall apart.

If there was a way to computerise, a miniaturised clothes production technique, that was not limited by the obvious physical constraints of human production of such small accessories, I would probably have less of an issue with it.

..'realistic' hair however, is always imho, a futz too far!

 

[Darkavatar]

Enterbay has no qc to begin with, awesome sculpts aside they suck.

Yeah couldn't agree more, unfortunately.

 

[Darkavatar]

Its simply because tbh in most (not all) cases, I don't think (*blasphemous personal opinion alert* ) even the best made clothes for collectible figures are that convincing.. shirts in particular.. and apart from the cloth items, a lot of the other materials (rubber, faux leather, anything with an elastic component, etc.) have a very definite 'best before date'.. after which they have a strong tendency to fall apart.

Maybe if you play with them, I don't play with my figures, they pretty much have the same pose for life.

If there was a way to computerise, a miniaturised clothes production technique, that was not limited by the obvious physical constraints of human production of such small accessories, I would probably have less of an issue with it.

I really don't see that is necessary unless you constantly pose or play with them.

..'realistic' hair however, is always imho, a futz too far!

Well maybe, but it still looks more realistic IMO.

 

[Tuskeraider78]

I'm not sure I like that the nametag on the stand says The Crow instead of Eric Draven. The stand has written The Crow on it in red, so the nametag should have Eric Draven written on it. No need to write The Crow two times. They should make it like the Barney Ross figure from Expendables 2. It has Expendables written on the stand, and Barney Ross on the nametag

 

[Taibhse]

Maybe if you play with them, I don't play with my figures, they pretty much have the same pose for life.



I really don't see that is necessary unless you constantly pose or play with them.



Well maybe, but it still looks more realistic IMO.

Tbh most of my figures remain in their boxes and if they do get display rotation time, then like yours they are posed once.. I don't play with them.

Its simply the physical properties of some the materials involved.. I think it was Eamon who mentioned in a recent podcast, that a figure he owned and checked recently, had a wetsuit that had disintegrated inside the packaging.. and there have been various other fairly high profile issues with some figures, covered in threads on this and other collecting forums.

To be fair, sometimes these issues affect areas that are not clothes.. figure's limb connections can fail.. rubber bodies can 'rot'.. as can tires on vehicles.. indeed I have a 1997 Trendmaster B9 robot figure, and the thin rubber grips within the wheel treads, perish on those (displayed in a box this is not really an issue).. the original ED209 dome is another example.

I'm just not sure how far 'realism' can be pushed with 1/6 scale figures, because of current production techniques and materials.. stitching can only be reduced to a certain size and that combined with for example, a (standard thread count cotton) shirt means getting a truly realistic drop and drape is going to be a struggle because of the 'bulk' of the materials involved.. shirt collars can look out of scale for similar reasons, too.

For all these reasons I prefer a moulded figure.. after all, I am collecting what are essentially, toys.. and some people are going to refer to them as 'dolls' anyway.. so its just my personal preference over the 'look' of the figure, rather than terminology.. combined with an effort not to get figures that are going to have a fairly predictably short life cycle, simply because of their construction materials, even if they are never removed from the retail packaging..
Yes, Despicable Me 2 large (rubberised) Minion toys, I am looking at you!

 

[Bezzerkerr]

Incredible.

Needs a shotgun though.

"Is that gasoline i smell?"


Head sculpt looks almost identical to Howard S's life-size NECA release.