Hey chemicals, I really enjoy TLJ as well but after RJ himself publicly dismissed half the fandom as being "manbabies" I think that that marked the time that hopefully both sides could see how wrong it was for the director himself to start making things personal and by extension us as well.
We're never going to win over any critics by "calling out" their supposedly misaligned intentions just as they won't win us over by insulting us either. At the end of the day TLJ is at the very least a pretty big mixed bag, even for those who loved it, so hopefully we can just recognize that aside from a few genuine trolls (none of which are present in this thread) we still have a *lot* of common ground as SW fans and can always keep that in mind.
Not liking a movie is totally fine by me, however just the constant negativity and toxic bashing is emotionally exhausting. If someone doesn’t like something just move on? Do they really feel the need to constantly talk and yell about how much they hate it and it’s the death of Star Wars and sjw crap or something etc.
And in your opinion it is a mixed bag, however to me and many others it’s not. I find the film near perfect and I hope we can all respect that and those who feel that way. Those who feel the need to brigade and make others feel like crap just for liking a movie is insane.
I don’t think you can deny the fact that a lot of the “backlash” is the result of ‘manbabies’ complaining about women and race. Apparently just have Kelly Marie Tran who is Asian American ultimately means the movie is feminist proganda. I’m not saying you are like that, but many people have said that. There’s been a large drive of racism and sexist comments in Star Wars fanbase over this last film and even the ones before it. Kelly was basically driven off the internet due to racist messages and constant hate and even death threats. If you don’t like the film, that’s totally fine. But for reasons that make sense, if someone says they don’t like something that happened yet it was in fact explained in the film, I simply just want to show them that yes it was explained. At least dislike it for reasons of stuff that actually happened and not make up stuff. I do not mean any attacks by you, I simply hope we can all get along and be Star Wars fans for once
Instead of every film coming out gets bashed as the death of Star Wars, so and so ruined our childhood, etc. It’s gotten very tiring at this point to the fact where I don’t even feel like participating much with other fans cause someone always has to brigade as “Star Wars is dead. Disney killed it. Feminism sjw. You’re an ***** and not a true fan for liking this particular thing that I don’t like”. I just find people who attack the cast, or crew disgusting. Claims like “rian clearly hates Star Wars and isn’t a true fan” is obviously ridiculous. People attacking other human beings wether they are cast or crew needs to stop. You can disagree with what someone did with a character but blanatly attacking them is vile.
And I’ve seen so many legitimate death threats and attacks towards every single cast member since the phantom menace, from Lucas to Abrams to Johnson. The fanbase will always have these disgusting people in it who feel the need to threaten others. Obviously it’s a minority but it seems lately it’s gotten bigger than before.
Obviously I have nothing against you for simply not liking a movie as much as other ones in a series, just that other people who have taken this to the next level is truly despicable. Just like the “George Lucas ***** our childhoods” is equally ridiculous lol
