Hot Toys - X-Men Days of Future Past?

[karamazov80]

How HT can't see that a Fassbender Magneto would sell like hot cakes boggles the mind. Maybe X-Men doesn't have the global appeal that Avengers/Iron-man does?

Wolverine doesn't sell, and he's the biggest X-player. So, you've got historical precedent. Then, folks don't have collections of X characters to build collections around, so you don't have residual effects on your Hawkeyes, Widows, Guardians of the Galaxy, etc. like the Marvel Studios stuff does to build off of your Iron Men, Caps, Hulks, and Thors. I'm sure that thought process is what also led to Rhino and Electro, though I think it was flawed logic in that case. Probably not the best business move for HT to go after Future Past, which is also why I'm guessing we see a smattering of merchandise for this film across the board as opposed to the toy shelf onslaught you see for other films. Hasbro did the Wolverine last year, sales were lackluster, now no DOFP, etc.

 

[Uncanny Web-Slinger]

Have to start somewhere to build a collection around. Wolverines sales are immaterial to the sales of other characters.

Disney wants their **** back

They can halt merchandise all they want (are) but that won't change the movie rights.

Fox has been making X-Men movies since before their was a Disney Marvel and have just released their highest grossing and highest rated movie, Nothing Disney do can stop the franchise, they ain't getting them back

 

[greygoose]

How do you explain the XM:FC Charles Xavier prototype figure we saw from Hot Toys last year? There was obviously a plan in place to make other X-Men characters...

 

[Uncanny Web-Slinger]

Makes you wonder why it was shelved

 

[karamazov80]

Lots of proposed figures and even prototypes are made and unproduced for probably various reasons. Hard to know precisely what those reasons always are (though Chan will sometimes give us an explanation). Still waiting on Rorscach, Stealth Mark 3, Smooth Criminal, Arkham Batman, Ichabod, Prometheus, etc.

 

[greygoose]

Lots of proposed figures and even prototypes are made and unproduced for probably various reasons. Hard to know precisely what those reasons always are (though Chan will sometimes give us an explanation). Still waiting on Rorscach, Stealth Mark 3, Smooth Criminal, Arkham Batman, Ichabod, Prometheus, etc.

Hot Toys may have the best intentions but until they are 100% signed and sealed on a license they shouldn't promote it to the public. For example, with the Prometheus license there was obviously big problems from the start. If they knew the line could potentially be shelved like past lines/figures have, they should have just kept quiet until they had a product to present and sell to the customers.

 

[Uncanny Web-Slinger]

That would be the smarter thing to do. No sense getting people hyped for figures and then not making them

 

[karamazov80]

It's part of their business model I guess. But I personally prefer the Enterbay method of show a product when it's ready to ship. Or, maybe a compromise you see with the new Mal Reynolds figure--show the prototype when figure production is happening. Think about all the 1/4 scale figures we were promised. Not gonna happen.

 

[greygoose]

That would be the smarter thing to do. No sense getting people hyped for figures and then not making them

It's just bad business. Especially when it happens time and time again and will continue to happen.

 

[Y4NK33 PL4N3T]

It's part of their business model I guess. But I personally prefer the Enterbay method of show a product when it's ready to ship. Or, maybe a compromise you see with the new Mal Reynolds figure--show the prototype when figure production is happening. Think about all the 1/4 scale figures we were promised. Not gonna happen.

My favorite is the Play Imaginative model : show all 42 Iron Man armor prototypes and release one (maybe 2?)

 

[DarkAngel]

It's just bad business. Especially when it happens time and time again and will continue to happen.

I agree

 

[pturtle]

My favorite is the Play Imaginative model : show all 42 Iron Man armor prototypes and release one (maybe 2?)

That was horrible.

Did all that get scrapped?


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[The Phantom]

Disney Marvel owns the merchandise rights but Fox will get a small percent of the profit from the merchandise so Disney Marvel is not licensing the franchise for merchandise because of this. They want X-Men movies rights, they aren't going to get them but they think if they hold off on the merchandise it will hurt Fox' marvel movies when in actuality the only ones it affects are fans of those movies.

Now you're saying Disney owns the rights? That's not the BS you were shoveling originally, so which is it?

Ok, you say Disney owns the rights to the XMen franchise.

Prove it.

You show one link to an article that states that, or admit you made it up.

It shouldn't be hard if it's the truth. If Disney got the rights back, it would have been after the merger and would be mentioned somewhere. Just tell me where you read it and I'll find it myself.

Put up or shut up.

 

[Y4NK33 PL4N3T]

That was horrible.

Did all that get scrapped?


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I read somewhere they lost the Marvel 1/6 license but idk how legit that is. They've released one figure in 1/6, the Mark VII, and that has been it.

 

[pturtle]

Now you're saying Disney owns the rights? That's not the BS you were shoveling originally, so which is it?

Ok, you say Disney owns the rights to the XMen franchise.

Prove it.

You show one link to an article that states that, or admit you made it up.

It shouldn't be hard if it's the truth. If Disney got the rights back, it would have been after the merger and would be mentioned somewhere. Just tell me where you read it and I'll find it myself.

Put up or shut up.

Calm down man, I'm starting to think you're Mickey Mouse, your obsessed with Disney.

I read somewhere they lost the Marvel 1/6 license but idk how legit that is. They've released one figure in 1/6, the Mark VII, and that has been it.

Yikes!

I always thought they looked cool, but I remember reading there were problems with the diecast or something.


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[The Phantom]

Calm down man, I'm starting to think you're Mickey Mouse, your obsessed with Disney.



Yikes!

I always thought they looked cool, but I remember reading there were problems with the diecast or something.


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I'm not at all obsessed with Disney, am I the one making up stories?

If anyone is obsessed with Disney, it's this guy. Now he's saying D/M owns the Xmen merchandising rights. Let him prove it.

 

[FullMetalHippie]

I'm not all obsessed with Disney, am I the one making up stories?

If anyone is obsessed with Disney, it's this guy. Now he's saying D/M owns the Xmen merchandising rights. Let him prove it.

Marvel does own the X-Men merchandising rights. Fox has to get anything and everything approved by Marvel, which is why you don't see any new toys supporting the movie.

Here's a couple sources. The first one breaks it down in detail for anyone interested.

https://www.wipo.int/wipo_magazine/en/2012/03/article_0005.html
https://www.moviestack.com/posts/385578-marvelfox-trade-xmen-merchandising-for-ff

 

[The Phantom]

Marvel does own the X-Men merchandising rights. Fox has to get anything and everything approved by Marvel, which is why you don't see any new toys supporting the movie.

Here's a couple sources. The first one breaks it down in detail for anyone interested.

https://www.wipo.int/wipo_magazine/en/2012/03/article_0005.html
https://www.moviestack.com/posts/385578-marvelfox-trade-xmen-merchandising-for-ff

The rights in question are the FILM merchandising rights.

The first article you posted doesn't mention the film Xmen merchandising rights at all, and the second one isn't even dated. It's not even an article, it's more like a blog, and it reads like he's trying to get a petition or a grass roots campaign started.

He doesn't even prove what he's saying, he just says it. Where is he getting the information from? Who is he? Is it you or Nova? Or are you one and the same?

If Disney got the merchandising rights back to the XMen films, it would have been reported somewhere, and easy enough to find.

 

[spindrift]

That was horrible.

Did all that get scrapped?


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They never intended to release them anyway- it took them two years to produce ONE 1/6 figure-people seriously thinking this was their intention?????

 

[James Bond]

Has anyone considered the fact that Disney bought the Star Wars franchise? Maybe Fox is being pushed out of distribution and that's why they won't play nice?

I'm not at all obsessed with Disney, am I the one making up stories?

If anyone is obsessed with Disney, it's this guy. Now he's saying D/M owns the Xmen merchandising rights. Let him prove it.

I love posts like this. PROOF OR I DIDN'T HAPPEN! How would ANYONE here PROVE this? Clearly these figure aren't being made and clearly there's a reason for it.

We got 4 figures from Captain American and at least 3 from Spiderman. X-Men will surpass Spiderman and it will match or even surpass Captain America worldwide. There is money to be made with figures from this film. Can you explain why there are no figures? And don't say it's because of the costumes.