HT DX05 - Indiana Jones - in-hand images

[DarthAlias]

I think the SS sculpt looks bloated and waxy. HT kills it even with the repainted it still sucks.

 

[dsokyra]

I think the SS sculpt looks bloated and waxy. HT kills it even with the repainted it still sucks.

 

[surfin4]

hell if theres a bandwagon i am on it......think the SS head is a whole lot of self delusion and back slapping but hey if it makes you feel all warm and fuzzy inside.... no harm

 

[dsokyra]

hell if theres a bandwagon i am on it......think the SS head is a whole lot of self delusion and back slapping but hey if it makes you feel all warm and fuzzy inside.... no harm

yeah I agree...to each his own, and that's cool, it's just that whenever anything negative is said about it or if you don't agree that it's the definitive Indy sculpt and way better than HT's, you're treated like you're crazy.

 

[jedijim3002]

Maybe we are crazy. Maybe we are the ones who are blind and can't see the true potential of the SS sculpt. Maybe if everyone's head were two sizes too big we would all live in a wonderful sideshow world full of sunshine and rainbows.

Or maybe not.

 

[swsqueakquels]

Yeah I'm one of the few on here who can't stand the SS sculpt...

You are not alone.

Thanks brother! I've mentioned it before and was treated like leper

That makes three of us.

Our numbers grow...soon we will be many

hell if theres a bandwagon i am on it......think the SS head is a whole lot of self delusion and back slapping but hey if it makes you feel all warm and fuzzy inside.... no harm

yeah I agree...to each his own, and that's cool, it's just that whenever anything negative is said about it or if you don't agree that it's the definitive Indy sculpt and way better than HT's, you're treated like you're crazy.

Maybe we are crazy. Maybe we are the ones who are blind and can't see the true potential of the SS sculpt. Maybe if everyone's head were two sizes too big we would all live in a wonderful sideshow world full of sunshine and rainbows.

Or maybe not.

I think the SS sculpt looks bloated and waxy. HT kills it even with the repainted it still sucks.

 

[dsokyra]

Yep. Just proved my point. No offense though swsqueakquels, not trying to get into an argument. Difference of opinion makes these threads interesting.

 

[dsokyra]

I'm sorry, but that was too damn funny...well played sir

 

[dsokyra]

When my SS Indy arrived my Medi Indy went back in his box.

When my HT Indy arrived my SS Indy went back in his box.

While the HT is the least favourite of my HT figures, I think he's still the best available off-the-shelf Indy.

Agreed...try as I may, I cannot see HF in the SS sculpt, regardless of the paint job...In hand, I can see HF in the HT sculpt. It's not perfect, but its there.

 

[swsqueakquels]

When my SS Indy arrived my Medi Indy went back in his box.

When my HT Indy arrived my SS Indy went back in his box.

While the HT is the least favourite of my HT figures, I think he's still the best available off-the-shelf Indy.

That lets a little of the air out of your praise, doesn't it?

 

[Murderofcrows71]

I think people have an idealized view of what Indy looks like as Harrison Ford's face has changed so much over each movie. I think that's why some people like one, some the other. Personally seeing Trev's SS sculpting early unpainted previews he blew the Raiders Indy likeness out of the water. I mean he nailed the likeness perfectly. Unfortunately by the time the final product got to us the horrible paint aps and head casting from SS ruined some of the likeness. HT figure is great, but I think he looks more like Raiden from the MKII movie.

 

[swsqueakquels]

Agreed...try as I may, I cannot see HF in the SS sculpt, regardless of the paint job...In hand, I can see HF in the HT sculpt. It's not perfect, but its there.

Many people say the same thing about the HT sculpt. "it's not perfect"? The heated discussion surrounding that headsculpt - varying from tentative praise to mocking and dismissal - would fill ten volumes.

So don't try to pass the HT headsculpt off as much better than the SSC effort from 3-4 years ago. It isn't - both have problems, both can be vastly improved with repaints and other work, but neither is close to perfection. Both look positively AWFUL under certain conditions.

This same conversation flares up and dies down over and over - and the joke is on everyone, because no one has a perfect Indy headsculpt. Yes, it is a matter of preference which you like.

Just don't dump on Trevor Grove's work. Until recently a contributor to these forums, he consistently comes closer to capturing HF better than any other sculptor.

 

[swsqueakquels]

HT Indy and First Avenger Capatain America vie for bottom spot in my collection.

Yes, the sculpt's not perfect, the jacket is awkward and the holster's wrong. But I still prefer those aspects over the SS counterparts.

The Prometheus body was also loose, though he never actually fell over it always seemed a possibility.

Sometimes I see Harrison perfectly in the HT, and other times barely at all. Yet the chubbyness (and scale) of the SS became very apparent when HT arrived.

However, I always thought that the SS was leagues ahead of the Medicom, which was a mistake buy. The Ebay seller advertized the Medi KOTCS version but sent the ROTLA instead - but as it was only £39.99 I decided not to complain. Was never happy with him though - skinny body, awful sculpt, plastic belt, holster and orange turd whip!

Look, as I said, there's no perfect solution. I have never seen a 1/6 Indy figure - custom or from a manufacturer - that looks like a shrunken down "real" Indiana Jones. You can say that about characters like Jack Sparrow, both Jokers and others - but not Indy.

Some have argued that the HT head is actually too small, partly due to the (non accurate for ROTLA) muscle body he came with.

And the SSC head is on the larger end of 1/6 heads, but mostly it looked too large out of the box because that early prom body wasn't just loose - it was way-short. The head scale looks fine on something like Soldier Story body which is a more "regular" 1/6 scale body.

Starting with the preview pics, the HT Indy release got the worst reception of any HT DX (the gold standard of reviews, Michael Crawford, said of the sculpt "when I first pulled this figure out of his foam coffin, I thought he was waaaay off" - though it grew on him,) arguably the worst of any HT figure of the past several years - but it had some incredible, 10/10 aspects. Unfortunately for all Indy collectors, the headsculpt just wasn't one of them.

 

[Billy Ray]

As did I.

That you did...yours was my inpspiration though, seeing yours again, I think I need to work on the head wrap some more.

 

[Mad Old Lu]

Many people say the same thing about the HT sculpt. "it's not perfect"? The heated discussion surrounding that headsculpt - varying from tentative praise to mocking and dismissal - would fill ten volumes.

So don't try to pass the HT headsculpt off as much better than the SSC effort from 3-4 years ago. It isn't - both have problems, both can be vastly improved with repaints and other work, but neither is close to perfection. Both look positively AWFUL under certain conditions.

This same conversation flares up and dies down over and over - and the joke is on everyone, because no one has a perfect Indy headsculpt. Yes, it is a matter of preference which you like.

Just don't dump on Trevor Grove's work. Until recently a contributor to these forums, he consistently comes closer to capturing HF better than any other sculptor.

I agree with everything swsqueakquels said.
I blame the production quality on Sideshow's faults, especially the terrible production paints. But I'll admit I am much more critical of HT's version because I, and everyone else, knows what they are capable of. HT fell very short this time. I think Kuat is more than right in saying the HT Indy is at the bottom of the list--not just his own list, but of HT's recent output. And I still strongly feel Sideshow's sculpt and likeness is MUCH better than HT's. HT's overall looks better because it looks more human-like--it just doesn't look like Ford.

 

[Mad Old Lu]

That you did...yours was my inpspiration though, seeing yours again, I think I need to work on the head wrap some more.

Thanks, BR!

 

[dsokyra]

Those above shots of HF next to the SS sculpt only prove my point. The eyes look lifeless and it looks like it could be his stunt double. But again, its all a matter of opinion. Those who like the SS sculpt will defend it until they die. I will still pick HT's until the perfect sculpt is produced...if that ever happens.

 

[Rzeznikk]

A lot of the defense for the SS comes from "What we could have got" versus what did get. As people have mentioned Trev's SS sculpt is actually pretty good, but thats not what we got is it? Nope. HT is best out of the box Indy we have gotten so far. These figures shouldnt need repaints to get to where you can see the likeness. They should be there right out of the box. I dont think there is a lot of people/collectors out there willing to drop the extra cash to have sculpts repainted. Im happy with the HT version since it is the closest to a real life paint job. SS to me feels way too much like a toy/doll/figure. But like others say "to each their own."

 

[swsqueakquels]

A lot of the defense for the SS comes from "What we could have got" versus what did get.

Same can be said for the HT headsculpt.

I think a lot of people just subconsciously repeat "but it's HT... but it's HT... but it's HT..." rather than looking at what they have in-hand.

Using the HT Sparrow as a near 10/10, what do you give the Indy? A 9? An 8? Look at the reams of discussion about it - my guess is that the consensus is a bit lower than that on the HT scale.

As people have mentioned Trev's SS sculpt is actually pretty good, but thats not what we got is it? Nope. HT is best out of the box Indy we have gotten so far. These figures shouldnt need repaints to get to where you can see the likeness. They should be there right out of the box.I dont think there is a lot of people/collectors out there willing to drop the extra cash to have sculpts repainted. Im happy with the HT version since it is the closest to a real life paint job. SS to me feels way too much like a toy/doll/figure. But like others say "to each their own."

People - and I mean a lot of people - shouldn't have to take a scalpel to their $250 figure to remove guyliner either.

After the Joker (a focus of obsessive interest) Indy has to be one of the most customized HT head sculpts. That says something, doesn't it?

To say that it is "there right out of the box" is not really true for quite a few people at least. We saw many people - who appeared to be casual collectors not seen in these threads much - asking how to do the guy liner thing.

Those above shots of HF next to the SS sculpt only prove my point. The eyes look lifeless and it looks like it could be his stunt double. But again, its all a matter of opinion. Those who like the SS sculpt will defend it until they die. I will still pick HT's until the perfect sculpt is produced...if that ever happens.

Yep, it's all a matter of opinion and quality of eyesight. (I say that only because you are DUMPING again...)

Some people drop the $250, and it renders their eyesight not 100% impartial.

 

[dsokyra]

Same can be said for the HT headsculpt.

I think a lot of people just subconsciously repeat "but it's HT... but it's HT... but it's HT..." rather than looking at what they have in-hand.

Using the HT Sparrow as a near 10/10, what do you give the Indy? A 9? An 8? Look at the reams of discussion about it - my guess is that the consensus is a bit lower than that on the HT scale.



People - and I mean a lot of people - shouldn't have to take a scalpel to their $250 figure to remove guyliner either.

After the Joker (a focus of obsessive interest) Indy has to be one of the most customized HT head sculpts. That says something, doesn't it?

To say that it is "there right out of the box" is not really true for quite a few people at least. We saw many people - who appeared to be casual collectors not seen in these threads much - asking how to do the guy liner thing.



Yep, it's all a matter of opinion and quality of eyesight. (I say that only because you are DUMPING again...)

Some people drop the $250, and it renders their eyesight not 100% impartial.

Ummm I think those on your side of the argument have done more than their fair share of "dumping" on the HT figure...let's try to keep it honest.
And I never said that the HT was perfect by any means...and I've dropped plenty of money on figures that weren't that great and remained impartial - I just choose to sell those figures. To make a statement like that is a bit condescending. Especially when from my side it appears that those of you on the other side have the same blind partiality regarding the SS sculpt.