I'm so pissed!!!..."Karate Kid" remake in the works...

[winter]

This is going to be the sleeper hit of the summer.

 

[Kuzeh]

If you're too dim to read the sarcasm in my post, then I can see why spelling California correctly would be a problem for you.

Jeez... relax dude... I was just kidding...

BTW I'm sure I can wirte AND pronounce California BETTER than you...

just want to comment, that there IS an underlying philosophy regarding kali/eskrima. its history is simple, though it was primarily used in battles. IMO, the discipline itself entails to avoid conflict as much as possible...sanctity of life, to use what is necessary when it counts.

and yes, this remake is still so wrong in so many levels.haha

They teach the same principles in Karate, Tea-Kwon Do, Aikido, Iaido, Kendo, Judo, Jujutsu... at different levels and variations I'm sure...

The essence of genuine martial arts is to be victorious in martial affairs, i.e. war. Even Sun Tzu begins with an injunction to avoid conflict if possible. It is common sense that true victory would avoid war altogether, but failing that, one would need to be superior in martial prowess to vanquish the threat posed by an enemy.

That's true, and these principles are embraced by most Martial Arts...

How the non-confrontational aspect of the Chinese tradition renders their martial arts superior is the degree to which that idea is carried through to actual combat. The use of negative energy and reliance upon strength that characterizes most cultures' systems is a handicap in the face of systems designed to employ the aggressor's strength against them. What appears to be passivity (as in tai chi) is simply a greater understanding of the natural laws that govern any kind of physical activity. I understand that some non-Chinese systems give a certain credence to this fact, but only the Chinese have ever integrated the principle from the ground up. Musashi understood (per Book of Five Rings) but that was an induction he arrived at after years of fighting, and not something he was initially taught. In contrast to that, the arts developed at Wudan Mountain are a non-confrontational system from the word go, and I would put my money on a master of that art before a master of any other school.

The reason some perceive this, is because most "modern" martial arts were simplified to teach them in a small period of time to the military. Thus losing a lot of it's "natural" flow and more evolved form, function and essence...

The best teachers I've known, have usually developed the basics of this "modern" techniques and "re-think" them based on physics, Budo philosophy and flow.

I'm sure millenary techniques have an impressive amount of development...
But I also believe that it all depends on the practitioner... anyone who has mastered any martial art technically, physically, mentally and philosophically are worthy of admiration.

The problem with a lot of Martial Artists is arrogance... saying their "technique" is better, just like religions...
Somebody that fully understands their art, will never engage in useless confrontations...
There's room for all Martial Arts IMO...
except Tae Kwon Do... J/k...

 

[devilof76]

I understand that there has been a lot of watering down of most styles for one reason or other, but I've never seen anything that approaches combat the way that tai chi or wing chun do. The closest I've seen is escrima.

That said, I would imagine mastery, or even effectiveness in those would be more difficult to attain than many others. Tai chi especially. It is so rarified in terms of passivity used as a weapon that it almost doesn't make sense. The closest that the Japanese produced is aikido, and it just doesn't come across as being equal. I'm no pro, so really, my comment wasn't meant to make anyone defensive. I still stand by it though, atleast until I see something to convince me to the contrary.

 

[fosing]

They teach the same principles in Karate, Tea-Kwon Do, Aikido, Iaido, Kendo, Judo, Jujutsu... at different levels and variations I'm sure...

a common root denominator, i agree.

Somebody that fully understands their art, will never engage in useless confrontations...

hell yeah, HUMILITY.
at times one must just walk away, instead of using un-necessary force. specially in a battle of words.

 

[devilof76]

Except that there is no force involved in battles of words.

(And, yeah, humility isn't exactly my forte. For example...)

BTW I'm sure I can write AND pronounce California BETTER than you...

What does that even mean?

 

[fosing]

Except that there is no force involved in battles of words.

(And, yeah, humility isn't exactly my forte. For example...)



What does that even mean?

its some 1:1 stuff(outside the internets).
it starts with a couple of words...bad exchanges...then a fists comes into play. those stuffs. pretty un-necessary and avoidable.

 

[Kuzeh]

Except that there is no force involved in battles of words.

(And, yeah, humility isn't exactly my forte. For example...)



What does that even mean?

Oh we can see that...
And it means exactly what is stated there...
I was puzzled by your Aztlán post... so I replied accordingly...

 

[devilof76]

How many different ways are there to pronounce California?

I know there's only one way to spell it, and ever since 1850, I'm pretty sure that it only has one name. No one calls the Czech and Slovak Republics the Sudetenland anymore, right?

 

[Kuzeh]

Now Lewiston F'n Maine on the other hand...

 

[IrishJedi]

Don't bag on New England.

 

[devilof76]

Now Lewiston F'n Maine on the other hand...

If you lived here, you would understand.

Don't bag on New England.

Lewiston is no reflection of the greater region. Thank god.

 

[Kuzeh]

How many different ways are there to pronounce California?

Including the Governator's I say about 3... but only one is right!


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If you lived here, you would understand.



Lewiston is no reflection of the greater region. Thank god.

OK thanks!

 

[devilof76]

Governator can't pronounce English properly. So we're down to two.

How is the one that isn't spoken with a non-regional American accent pronounced?

EDIT: just had to mention that this conversation is ridiculous. Nice change from the incessant b____ing over the movie.

 

[Kuzeh]

Governator can't pronounce English properly. So we're down to two.

California isn't an English word...

How is the one that isn't spoken with a non-regional American accent pronounced?

In Spanish...

EDIT: just had to mention that this conversation is ridiculous. Nice change from the incessant b____ing over the movie.

It is rather silly isn't it?
We were talking about Martial Arts and all of the sudden you derailed it with the Aztlán comment...

 

[devilof76]

California isn't an English word...

My last name is Braun, which is a German word. In German, it is pronounced Brown. I am an American, not a German-American. My name is not pronounced Brown.

In Spanish...

Which side of the border is California on?

 

[Kuzeh]

My last name is Braun, which is a German word. In German, it is pronounced Brown. I am an American, not a German-American. My name is not pronounced Brown.

Which side of the border is California on?

Both... Alta California is in the U.S., Baja California is in Mexico...

 

[devilof76]

The one in the U.S. is just plain California. I don't know what they call it in Mexico, and I imagine you'll not be surprised when I say I don't care.

It's not part of Mexico so that name doesn't count.

 

[Kuzeh]

The one in the U.S. is just plain California. I don't know what they call it in Mexico, and I imagine you'll not be surprised when I say I don't care.

Hey man... you're the one who brought up all this California debate to the table...
Don't blame me!!!

 

[devilof76]

I'm just being confrontational while not degenerating into fisticuffs, for the sole purpose of proving fosing's thesis equating warlike words with violence wrong. I bet we could have this conversation peacefully even in person.

 

[Kuzeh]

Sounds about right... !!

Anyway... I'm still pissed about this movie coming out...
Had to sit through the trailer last night before Prince of Persia... lots of cringing moments... specially the flyswatter scene...