INCEPTION Discussion Thread (***Spoilers!!!***)

[Dusty]

the end may be a dream, or maybe not... obviously, it was designed to register with the individual but nothing is definite. the spinning top was possibly about to drop... the filmmaker let the audience decide.

But that's the thing... even if it did drop, what does that really prove? Nada. It's not even his totem, it's Mal's. What was HIS totem anyway, did it ever say? Does it even matter? Nope. Everyone will interpret it in their own way.

"Life is but a dream, sweetheart..."

A near perfect film!

 

[RICEaRONI]

But that's the thing... even if it did drop, what does that really prove? Nada. It's not even his totem, it's Mal's. What was HIS totem anyway, did it ever say? Does it even matter? Nope. Everyone will interpret it in their own way.

"Life is but a dream, sweetheart..."

A near perfect film!

that makes absolutely no sense. in the dream world the top spins without stopping no matter who spins it. you should probably see the movie again ...

 

[CelticPredator]

Only Mal and Cobb knew about the Totem. So it was THEIR totem.

 

[RICEaRONI]

Having just seen it and not having read any of the rest of this thread... here's my take (sorry if it's repeating things that have already been stated)...

It's ALL a dream. Cobb is nuts / a vegetable. There's no such thing as being able to go into peoples' heads via some sort of dream technology. It's Cobb's brain's explanation for his physical state of being. His wife as "the villain" is his subconscious' way of trying to make him wake up, but his brain won't allow it for some reason. his wife is living in the 'real' world with the real kids, watching over Cobb's comatose body somewhere, not able to wake him up.

Even if that's not a "correct" viewing of it, and there's some "reality" to the whole dream extraction/inception thing, the ending was DEFINITELY a dream... I mean, what are the odds that his kids would look exactly the same and be wearing the same clothes as the day he left them?

Regardless, the movie's awesome! Loved the soundtrack, and I love that there's no answer and that he could make it as ridiculous as he wanted and it wouldn't matter... because there's no answer. 9/10

don't be ridiculous. now you're taking it into a completely different level and you're not even debating the movie anymore. did you do some drugs before you made this post? saying that cobb is in a coma has absolutely nothing to do with ANYTHING that anyone is talking about.

It appears the kids at the end weren't the same kids. Two sets of kids are in the cast ... one set 2-years older than the other. They look the same because the kids that were cast are related.

SnakeDoc

Exactly. It's a dream... you don't know how you got there; could be coma, could be aliens, could be reality - who's to say?

Actually, it's a perfect allegory of stories themselves. A fiction film or story is someone's dream made to feel real. It's still a dream. Star Wars is a DREAM, but it's some peoples' reality. It's not even worth fighting over; there is no answer... similar to religion

quit being ridiculous. we're talking about stuff that actually has to do with the FILM, not your mind.

 

[BadMoon]

Why does everyone feel the need to be right? No need to be rude. Damn the movie was made, at least in my opinion to be subjective. Hence the beauty of it. Very rarely does a film pull that off. Inception does. Only one person REALLY knows. And like a magician I doubt he will ever come out and spell it all out. So chill.

 

[plasmid303]

I think Dusty is completely entitled to her interpretation. It's one valid guess, given the ambiguous nature of the film.

 

[Maglor]

Dusty is a chic?


Cool! But she's still wrong.

Why does everyone feel the need to be right? No need to be rude. Damn the movie was made, at least in my opinion to be subjective. Hence the beauty of it. Very rarely does a film pull that off. Inception does. Only one person REALLY knows. And like a magician I doubt he will ever come out and spell it all out. So chill.

I agree that the ending is meant to be subjective, but that does not mean that I think those who think the ending is really a dream can be right. That's a bold statement I know, but let me explain:

I think the the ending is done in a way that makes it possible for those without faith, those who have not fully followed Cobb on his journey, to doubt whether the end is reality.

As I've said numerous times in this thread, I believe that Cobb has absolute faith that the top will fall. He will see it laying there when he comes in later after playing with his kids. To stand and wait for it to fall would be giving in to his old doubt. Doubts directly tied to his guilt. He has let go of that guilt at the same time embracing faith in the real.

Will we complete that journey with him and trust his world is real or will we doubt? I believe it is real every bit as much as our hero.





But I agree. No need to be rude.

 

[CelticPredator]

No. You're open to interpretation...but you have to stay within the bounderies of the said film. I mean, I cant say AvP was nothing but a deep pyschological battle inside Lex's mind, and Scar was her gate keeper, holding the key to her sanity. The Aliens were the drugs creeping in slowly on her...because she does meth. The ALIENS WERE METH!

Does that even fit within the confines on the movie? No. The ending, the themes, the dream sequences, the little things, all can be open to ideas...but you shouldnt just make stuff up.

IF that were the case, Fight Club is about a man who went to Iraq, and went deep under cover. So deep, his mind replaced itself with Tyler Durden. So he's still in a hole with Saddam.

 

[CelticPredator]

I think Dusty is completely entitled to her interpretation. It's one valid guess, given the ambiguous nature of the film.

It's not THAT ambiguous. I mean, the plot is pretty straight forward. It's the themes, and subtexts that what makes the movie so intense.

 

[plasmid303]

Inception is about dreams. There are lines of dialogue that while seemingly innocuous hide subtext that could be taken differently in varying context. In that regard the confines of the film could be pushed. With that firmly in place, there are many bat_____ crazy directions one end up going with. When I said that the nature of the film is ambiguous, I was obviously not talking about it's plot otherwise I wouldn't have said "the nature of". I was talking about subtext. There's a lot that can be said in defense of the "it's all a dream" interpretation, even though I myself don't necessarily believe in it.

I'm willing to accept just about accept anything at this point without necessarily believing in it, so to speak.

 

[Maglor]

No. You're open to interpretation...

're open to interpretation!

 

[wHySoSeRiOuS203]

 

[CelticPredator]

CONSEQUENSES WILL NEVER BE THE SAME!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Ahhh!

 

[Shai]

Saw it, great movie...but people are seeing too much in the plot Imo.

 

[jinxx]

I finally got to see this film earlier. The first hour was boring but overall, a great and original(?) film. I love how they named the only female in the group after a greek myth character. And yeah, I agree with Shai. Y'all are reading into it too much...

 

[CelticPredator]

Some of us. But the movie is wicked deep, and full of layers.

It's just not a movie with a 10000 different meanings, and points. It is what it is.

 

[creature4000]

All this film was was Shutter Island 2. Loud music during non action scenes was way over done.

The only mystery was weather or not this was all a dream or did the company espionage actualy go down?

That said, I liked it.. but it's not the greatest flick this summer by any means.

This movie and sutter island would have been 100x better if the meat of the story was what was actually happening.. not this psycho babble BS!

 

[fuzzylojiks]

Can't top this movie.

 

[Deckard]

That said, I liked it.. but it's not the greatest flick this summer by any means.

And what was exactly? I musta missed it.

 

[Maglor]

Saw it, great movie...but people are seeing too much in the plot Imo.

Some people. But not me!

All this film was was Shutter Island 2. Loud music during non action scenes was way over done.

The only mystery was weather or not this was all a dream or did the company espionage actualy go down?

That said, I liked it.. but it's not the greatest flick this summer by any means.

This movie and sutter island would have been 100x better if the meat of the story was what was actually happening.. not this psycho babble BS!

The meat of Inception was "really happening" I don't know what you mean.