INCEPTION Discussion Thread (***Spoilers!!!***)

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Shut up asswipe.








:lol

But in all serial...that's what the point of the movie was too me. To just end it saying "Oh he woke up. The end" is not what Nolan intended. It's not open and shut like that. It has meaning. That's the meaning of the movie. To appreciate what you have. To not worry all the time. To just live your life without fear, or regret.

:lol Ha! Really? I think I got it a long time ago from the "Just Pictures" thread. Sad that one got closed. :(



I actually think we agree more that it seems.

I agree that the ending has profound meaning. I hadn't worded it that way, but it does basicaly mean "live without fear or regret." I said that it is about "Faith and letting go of guilt", which has similar implications.

The only area we differ, is in how that message is given weight.

You say that he has learned to not care whether he's dreaming or not and therefore is able to live without fear or regret.

I say that he is finaly confident that reality is in fact reality, now that he has let go of Mal and his guilt, thus finaly able to live without fear or regret.

Either one can work.




...except mine is right. :D


"To take a leap of faith..."


:lecture
 
:lol Ha! Really? I think I got it a long time ago from the "Just Pictures" thread. Sad that one got closed. :(



I actually think we agree more that it seems.

I agree that the ending has profound meaning. I hadn't worded it that way, but it does basicaly mean "live without fear or regret." I said that it is about "Faith and letting go of guilt", which has similar implications.

The only area we differ, is in how that message is given weight.

You say that he has learned to not care whether he's dreaming or not and therefore is able to live without fear or regret.

I say that he is finaly confident that reality is in fact reality, now that he has let go of Mal and his guilt, thus finaly able to live without fear or regret.

Either one can work.

:1-1:

But yes, that pic is mine. I dont care if you use it because it took me 30 seconds in PS....but I LOLed because it resurfaced. And replyed to me! Ironic! :panic:
 
Lighten up a little. If we don't make our points like we believe we are right we don't have much of a discussion do we. :)


Just don't take it so seriously. :duff

huh? so u can respond to a statement that "you don't get the ending" but i can't? besides, i was initially agreeing with u.

i was purposely slagging those guys off. if any of u had read the review i posted, i made a stand that i wouldn't share what i thought of the meaning of the last scene. cos i'm not interested in being right. there's no "black & white" reading of a film like inception and that's the beauty of it.

but of course, celtic will say i don't get what black and white means, badmoon will tell me that i'm wrong, and snakedoc will say that i need to respect badmoon's opinion that i'm wrong about black and white.
















(see what i did there?)

maybe i should add a smiley at the end of every post. like so:

:D

:duff
 
The older kids could've been used just for the phone call scene.

Why would they have needed to cast the younger kids' brothers/sisters for voice work? Three of the four kids have the same last name. It seems clear from the casting that the appearance of the kids mattered. They could've cast any kid for a voice ... but they intentionally cast the older brother and sister of the 3-year-old.

The three-year-old girl ... Claire Geare (she's probably only 18 to 24 months in the picture).

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The five-year-old girl ... Taylor Geare.

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SnakeDoc
 
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Man I wish we could get some screen captures of the last scene to see which girl it was at the end.
 
huh? so u can respond to a statement that "you don't get the ending" but i can't? besides, i was initially agreeing with u.

I know. And I appreciate that. :1-1:



i was purposely slagging those guys off. if any of u had read the review i posted, i made a stand that i wouldn't share what i thought of the meaning of the last scene. cos i'm not interested in being right. there's no "black & white" reading of a film like inception and that's the beauty of it.

Point taken. I'm just sayin' this debate kind of falls apart if we don't believe we're right. However, I think all of us would freely admit that the ending is intentionally left open to interpretation.

In an interview, Micheal Emmerson was asked if he knew what happened at the end of LOST, and he said, 'yes I know what happened, but it might not be the same thing that you know happened.'

As to you're review, I will read it. There are a couple posts in this thread I mean to get back to, and that's one of them. All I did initially is scroll to the end to see what you had to say about the end of the movie. When I saw that you 'wouldn't share what you thought of the meaning of the last scene' I went to the next post because that's what has me interested right now. The ending debate.



maybe i should add a smiley at the end of every post. like so:

:D

:duff


Smileys never hurt. ;)
 
For what its worth, I figured out where I knew the little girl from ...

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She played Teri, Jack Bauer's granddaughter, in Season 8 of 24.

SnakeDoc
 
No. He's a subconscious projection created by Fisher. The real guy isn't tapped into the dream. The only real people in any of the dreams are Eames, Cobb, the kid from 3rd Rock, Scarecrow, the oriental fella, Kitty Pride and Yusuf. Anyone else is either a forgery (Berenger in dream 1, the blonde girl in dream 2), or a projection.

If you watch a second time, listen for Eames' plan for the inception ... the idea is for Eames to forge the identity of Berenger and plant the inception in the first dream level (the Michael Mann level) so that Fisher's subconscious creates the character by itself for the lower levels. Apparently the oriental fella didn't catch that part ... which is why he started talking to Berenger thinking it was "Eames forging Berenger" in the hotel lobby (a misconception that was quickly countered when Eames came around the corner behind the subconscious projection of Berenger).

SnakeDoc

Yes that's what I mean. Obviously it's not the real guy because he wasn't brought into the dream, but what I meant was, it's still actually him genuinely (even in subconscious form) or rather, it's NOT Eames at that point.
 
Yes that's what I mean. Obviously it's not the real guy because he wasn't brought into the dream, but what I meant was, it's still actually him genuinely (even in subconscious form) or rather, it's NOT Eames at that point.


It's specifically said in the first level down that Eames would play the role of Berenger for the first level and the Fischer's subconscious would pick up where Eames left off in the following levels. The hope was that Fischer's projection of him would follow the path started by Eames and it works perfectly.
 
Why would they have needed to cast the younger kids' brothers/sisters for voice work? Three of the four kids have the same last name. It seems clear from the casting that the appearance of the kids mattered. They could've cast any kid for a voice ... but they intentionally cast the older brother and sister of the 3-year-old.

The three-year-old girl ... Claire Geare (she's probably only 18 to 24 months in the picture).

The five-year-old girl ... Taylor Geare.

SnakeDoc

You make a good point, but if we're going by what you said, it still doesn't change the fact that we never actually see the faces of the younger kids, thusly casting the whole lot based on their similarity of appearance wouldn't really matter, right?

Also, only the young actresses are related. The kid who plays the young version of James is Magnus Nolan, who is not related to the boy who plays the older James. So really, casting one set of siblings is nothing out of the ordinary for film productions.

I want to be wrong, but the possibility that the older kids were used for the phone call scene still holds. We'll have to wait for a screen cap of the kids in the movie to be sure.
 
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