that british actress is Kathleen Kennedy self inserts.
Yes I admit I’m speculating about the atomic bomb, but it was obvious that Voller’s goal was similar to Hitler’s (Germany as the world’s superpower), he just felt Hitler was ultimately the wrong man for the job. Hence his ominous comment to the room service waiter early on - “You didn’t win the war; Hitler lost it.” And if he’s going to go back and eliminate Hitler & his costly military decisions, his sabotaging the Manhattan Project as well (leading to Germany developing the bomb first) doesn’t seem like too much of a stretch.
That would be my summary as well after one viewing though I'd lean toward replacing "really great" with "really enjoyable." As for prologue Indy using old Ford's voice to me it seemed to go in and out. IIRC they were able to digitally de-age Mark Hamill's voice for the Mando Season 2 finale and I believe they did that again here with fluctuating success.So, that’s my TED Talk. The “TL; DR” version is “it’s a really great movie with wonderful performances, a fun story, and a fitting conclusion to one of my all-time favorite franchises.”
There were definitely some lines that flowed smoother than others. Part of it could very well just be how gruff Ford’s voice has gotten as he’s aged that, even with the digital alterations, the cadences and intonations are just too pronounced to hide.That would be my summary as well after one viewing though I'd lean toward replacing "really great" with "really enjoyable." As for prologue Indy using old Ford's voice to me it seemed to go in and out. IIRC they were able to digitally de-age Mark Hamill's voice for the Mando Season 2 finale and I believe they did that again here with fluctuating success.
Watching that 1944 opening I became 100% convinced that we will see a CGI-ed 1940s Indy movie - whether it's done like this with HF (mostly) playing the part and his face de-aged, or done as another actor with HF's face added. And listening to the Val Kilmer and Andy Warhol Netflix docs (that feature perfect recreations of tehir voices) makes you realize even after HF has died he could be still playing Indy.The one drawback I noticed was that Indy had old man voice and it made me kind of sad that this would be the last time we see this kind of tech used to de-age him because I feel like, if they could do what they did for his voice the same as they did for his face (the AI mined the Lucasfilm and Paramount archive for photos and footage of Ford and melded his past image with his current performance, so, I wonder if they couldn’t do the same by feeding it his voice from 40 years ago and masking his current voice with young Indy), but even still, it was magical watching it in action and I was struck thinking “I could watch a whole movie like this.”
Really amazing post. I’m not as excited about it as you are but you are enabling me (in a good way) to go and see it again. On this, someone I went with just assumed the whole movie was going to be like the opening. I will say that along with the voice the way he moved seemed like an older man as well so I’m wondering if they used Ford on set rather than get someone else like they did with Hamill/Luke.The one drawback I noticed was that Indy had old man voice and it made me kind of sad that this would be the last time we see this kind of tech used to de-age him. I feel like, if they could do what they did for his voice the same as they did for his face (the AI mined the Lucasfilm and Paramount archive for photos and footage of Ford and melded his past image with his current performance, so, I wonder if they couldn’t do the same by feeding it his voice from 40 years ago and masking his current voice with young Indy), but even still, it was magical watching it in action and I was struck thinking “I could watch a whole movie like this.”
Agree completely I thought she was terrific. Always liked her and I liked that she wasn’t a one dimensional one note character just along for the ride. She had her own life.I know mileage may vary, but I quite enjoyed Phoebe Waller-Bridge’s Helena. She’s an excellent foil to Ford’s Indy and she and Teddy add some much needed levity and charisma that kind of balances out Ford’s more glum, reflective Indy. She grew on me a lot over the course of the movie and, by the end, I felt a genuine attachment to her character.
True, but conjecture on both of our parts aside, it's a little strange to read the summary below with the reality that Hitler is the most evil human being in history because of what he did between 1939 and 1944, also being the primary driving force of the holocaust that began in 1942:
Dial of Destiny: Indy must stop a Nazi rocketry scientist (a member of the Apollo lunar program) from using an ancient time travel device to go back in time to 1939 to kill Hitler on the eve of WWII and assume his place in leading the Third Reich.
That to me - the fact he's just a rocket scientist (closely vetted by the US government) who comes across as nothing more than a Clark Kent-looking lab geek with a mean streak, and that his goal is to eliminate the most evil man in all of human history just before that man can do all the stuff that made him so evil - is a major problem.
I guess it sort of comes down to how much of the Nazi story was to do with Hitler and how much would have happened anyway. I think most historians would agree that even though the Germans elevated Hitler, he, as a uniquely "gifted" orator and dark "visionary," was the one who created/massaged the narrative through the 1930s and early 1940s, and drove the collective psychosis that led to outcomes like the holocaust. The idea that a scientist geek like Voller - who comes across as a weak, limp idiot no one takes seriously in the 1944 opener - could drive Germany into the same fervor necessary for something like the holocaust I think is really misguided.
Hitler is known as the most evil person in history not because he led an army, but because of the unique hypnotic power he had to make Germans do unspeakable evil. So anyone trying to stop someone from killing Hitler in 1939 is a fool.
Wow, didn't know that - I assumed it was digitally done. That's eerie but cool he sounds so much like him.Just to clarify, Val's son Jack provided the narration for his doc. That documentary is incredible.
It's certainly better than I ever expected and HF is better in this than some of his more recent outings. It's weird - almost like it greater than the sum of its parts or something.Sounds like a very divisive movie...
I had no intention of watching this at the theatre, but I might. It does sound intriguing at the very least.
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