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More Discussion of the end/after credits scene.
Now a little earlier B!K! hinted at a scene in Iron Man 2 connecting to the Cap movie, which has been “confirmed” by BadTaste.it. Unfortunately I don’t speak Italian so Slashfilm.com translated it for us:
A 100% trusted source (NOT from the production/distribution, but very familiar with the movie) confirmed us today that there will be an easter egg in IM2. It’s an extra scene, just like the one in the first movie, after the end credits. We are able to tell you what’s about! It’s a scene about… Captain America and Thor! Maybe this doesn’t seem a big reveal, but it’s nice to have a confirmation.
Now we all saw the extra scenes at the end of Iron Man and The Incredible Hulk featuring cameos by Samuel L. Jackson and RDJ, respectively. So if you didn’t see the scenes, hang your head in shame. ALWAYS sit through the credits in a Marvel movie. Even Daredevil had an after credits scene.
Anyways, most of the discussion seems to revolve around this scene featuring cameos by Cap and Thor, which I don’t believe. Thor, yes, but I doubt Evans would suit up for the scene when he’s this early in Cap production himself. More than likely another easter egg like Cap’s shield in IM. Either Way, don’t leave until those credits finish the slow crawl. It was easy to watch in Iron Man because we got to see some early looks at a War Machine shoulder cannon, cool nerd stuff to enjoy. Expect the same.
A 100% trusted source (NOT from the production/distribution, but very familiar with the movie) confirmed us today that there will be an easter egg in IM2. It’s an extra scene, just like the one in the first movie, after the end credits. We are able to tell you what’s about! It’s a scene about… Captain America and Thor! Maybe this doesn’t seem a big reveal, but it’s nice to have a confirmation.
Now we all saw the extra scenes at the end of Iron Man and The Incredible Hulk featuring cameos by Samuel L. Jackson and RDJ, respectively. So if you didn’t see the scenes, hang your head in shame. ALWAYS sit through the credits in a Marvel movie. Even Daredevil had an after credits scene.
Anyways, most of the discussion seems to revolve around this scene featuring cameos by Cap and Thor, which I don’t believe. Thor, yes, but I doubt Evans would suit up for the scene when he’s this early in Cap production himself. More than likely another easter egg like Cap’s shield in IM. Either Way, don’t leave until those credits finish the slow crawl. It was easy to watch in Iron Man because we got to see some early looks at a War Machine shoulder cannon, cool nerd stuff to enjoy. Expect the same.
twistedfreak
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Fantasic news! IM2 is gonna rock! Can't wait!
villainsfan42
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love how they actually used real life iron man movie merchandise for the kid. that's pretty awesome. great video.
plasmid303
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Makes it easy for real life kids to look for (and buy). Clever ploy, Marvel.
SOLIDSNAKE
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hahahhahaha! that was awsome.
the kid just looks at him fly away and camera zooms out.
I am so pumped for this movie.
the kid just looks at him fly away and camera zooms out.
I am so pumped for this movie.
IronFingaz
GO CELTICS!!!
Bought ticket last night. Midday on the 29th, and for free!
Still no tickets here :emperor They can have a date for when you can buy tickets for Sex And The City 2 but not Iron Man... or any other movie so far
Bentargett777
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well i tried getting tickets last night but i dont know if its gone through so il have to wait and see now.
(scratch that just got tickets for 29th and 30th)
(scratch that just got tickets for 29th and 30th)
The Ringer
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I read on the SHH boards that Debeney tweeted the score will be relaeased on the 7th of July.
Better late than never though.
Better late than never though.
At least we get the AC/DC album ahead of time, which I picked up today, what a nice collection of their work, and fitting choices to represent Iron Man. Got a mini poster of the album art for free from the store I got it from.
Interesting article in Total Film: https://www.totalfilm.com/features/the-story-behind-iron-man-2
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Good article on how The Mandrin is actually the real power behind Iron Mans bad guys:
I doubt there were any followers of Iron Man comics that didn't have a fangasm upon seeing the hero's greatest foe mentioned in his feature film debut. Not only was the Mandarin mentioned, but the limited backstory that was given made sense in the modernized telling.
Before I get into my hypothesis on how the ancient villain will appear in Iron Man 2, let me go over the details of what brought me to this point. First off, here are the three major mentions of the character from Iron Man:
1) The Ten Rings banner.
In the Marvel comics mythos, the Mandarin's personal weapons are his Ten Rings of Power that he wears simultaneously (one on each finger). Each ring has a different function (ice blasts, fire blasts, vortex control, etc.). Contrary to popular belief, the rings are not magical in nature but were created using alien technology. That's right, the Mandarin is a science-based villain through and through. The Mandarin's rings are the product of a dragon-like alien race from the planet Maklu-IV; whose technology surpasses Earth's exponentially. The rings’ functions cannot be explained or recreated by modern Earth science.
Marvel.com explains it a bit further: 'The Mandarin learned how to utilize the rings for own personal use and make them respond to his personal commands. Over the years, the Mandarin’s mind has actually come to inhabit the rings so that now no one else can make use of them. The Mandarin can also now control the rings over large distances.'
Did Jon Favreau change this story to make The Ten Rings simply an international terrorist organization? I highly doubt that and here's why:
2) Raza, leader of a Ten Rings cell
In the film's novelization, Raza (the man responsible for Tony Stark's captivity) mentions “…the man whose ring I wear.” This, of course, is a reference that the ring on his right ring finger belongs to the Mandarin. One ring down, nine to go. Which leads to the third revelation. . .
3) Jon Favreau's take on the Mandarin
It appears that the Iron Man director doesn't want to showcase the Mandarin as a solitary villain, but incorporate his into the story as the puppeteer behind all of Stark's opposition. He has stated that his version of the Mandarin in the movie series "allows us to incorporate the whole pantheon of villains." What does that mean to me? To put it simply, the Mandarin will have a connection to every villain Tony Stark faces.
Favreau also had this to say, "I look at Mandarin more like how in 'Star Wars' you had the Emperor, but Darth Vader is the guy you want to see fight. Then you work your way to the time when lightning bolts are shooting out of the fingers and all that stuff could happen. But you can't have what happened in 'Return of the Jedi' happen in 'A New Hope'. You just can't do it."
In regards to Iron Man 2, Favreau told the LA Times that 'The Mandarin is still in the background pulling the strings.'
Now, onto my belief of how the Mandarin is incorporated into this year's sequel. Two words: Justin Hammer.
Anyone who thinks that Whiplash is the central villain in the film hasn't been paying attention. Hammer is Stark's biggest industrial competitor. Hammer is willing to work with the government when Tony isn't. Hammer finds a way to free Ivan/Whiplash and have him finalize the 'new and improved' Iron Man-style robots. Hammer creates droves of robots and only he has the authority outside the government to send them after Iron Man and War Machine.
That being established, what would make me believe that Justin Hammer has anything to do with the Mandarin. It was just a little thing that has appeared in every video for Iron Man 2. Hammer is always shown wearing a bulky ring on this pinky finger
Check out the trailers and Comic Con '09 clips for yourself; every scene that Hammer appears throughout the progression of the film shows him wearing the same ring.
Don't forget to take into account Jon Favreau's attention to detail with these films and his way of putting emphasis on something that is easily overlooked (i.e. the repetition of the Strategic Homeland Intervention, Enforcement and Logistics Division in the first film). Where Raza would handle the Mandarin's need for soldiers, Hammer would be his ally in the technological world. Of course, this could just be an example of a rich industrialist wearing his favorite overpriced jewelry.
A few users have brought up a solid point that I completely overlooked. In the Iron Man movie novelization, Obediah Stane removed Ten Rings cell leader Raza's bejeweled ring and wore it for the rest of the story. Though the ring Stane wears in the film looks different from the ring Raza wears, it's safe to assume that they look very similar for a reason. Why this was left out of the film has yet to be revealed. Remember that the Iron Man 2 novelization is due out in the beginning of April, so keep your eyes open for more hints on this theory.
Good article on how The Mandrin is actually the real power behind Iron Mans bad guys:
I doubt there were any followers of Iron Man comics that didn't have a fangasm upon seeing the hero's greatest foe mentioned in his feature film debut. Not only was the Mandarin mentioned, but the limited backstory that was given made sense in the modernized telling.
Before I get into my hypothesis on how the ancient villain will appear in Iron Man 2, let me go over the details of what brought me to this point. First off, here are the three major mentions of the character from Iron Man:
1) The Ten Rings banner.
In the Marvel comics mythos, the Mandarin's personal weapons are his Ten Rings of Power that he wears simultaneously (one on each finger). Each ring has a different function (ice blasts, fire blasts, vortex control, etc.). Contrary to popular belief, the rings are not magical in nature but were created using alien technology. That's right, the Mandarin is a science-based villain through and through. The Mandarin's rings are the product of a dragon-like alien race from the planet Maklu-IV; whose technology surpasses Earth's exponentially. The rings’ functions cannot be explained or recreated by modern Earth science.
Marvel.com explains it a bit further: 'The Mandarin learned how to utilize the rings for own personal use and make them respond to his personal commands. Over the years, the Mandarin’s mind has actually come to inhabit the rings so that now no one else can make use of them. The Mandarin can also now control the rings over large distances.'
Did Jon Favreau change this story to make The Ten Rings simply an international terrorist organization? I highly doubt that and here's why:
2) Raza, leader of a Ten Rings cell
In the film's novelization, Raza (the man responsible for Tony Stark's captivity) mentions “…the man whose ring I wear.” This, of course, is a reference that the ring on his right ring finger belongs to the Mandarin. One ring down, nine to go. Which leads to the third revelation. . .
3) Jon Favreau's take on the Mandarin
It appears that the Iron Man director doesn't want to showcase the Mandarin as a solitary villain, but incorporate his into the story as the puppeteer behind all of Stark's opposition. He has stated that his version of the Mandarin in the movie series "allows us to incorporate the whole pantheon of villains." What does that mean to me? To put it simply, the Mandarin will have a connection to every villain Tony Stark faces.
Favreau also had this to say, "I look at Mandarin more like how in 'Star Wars' you had the Emperor, but Darth Vader is the guy you want to see fight. Then you work your way to the time when lightning bolts are shooting out of the fingers and all that stuff could happen. But you can't have what happened in 'Return of the Jedi' happen in 'A New Hope'. You just can't do it."
In regards to Iron Man 2, Favreau told the LA Times that 'The Mandarin is still in the background pulling the strings.'
Now, onto my belief of how the Mandarin is incorporated into this year's sequel. Two words: Justin Hammer.
Anyone who thinks that Whiplash is the central villain in the film hasn't been paying attention. Hammer is Stark's biggest industrial competitor. Hammer is willing to work with the government when Tony isn't. Hammer finds a way to free Ivan/Whiplash and have him finalize the 'new and improved' Iron Man-style robots. Hammer creates droves of robots and only he has the authority outside the government to send them after Iron Man and War Machine.
That being established, what would make me believe that Justin Hammer has anything to do with the Mandarin. It was just a little thing that has appeared in every video for Iron Man 2. Hammer is always shown wearing a bulky ring on this pinky finger
Check out the trailers and Comic Con '09 clips for yourself; every scene that Hammer appears throughout the progression of the film shows him wearing the same ring.
Don't forget to take into account Jon Favreau's attention to detail with these films and his way of putting emphasis on something that is easily overlooked (i.e. the repetition of the Strategic Homeland Intervention, Enforcement and Logistics Division in the first film). Where Raza would handle the Mandarin's need for soldiers, Hammer would be his ally in the technological world. Of course, this could just be an example of a rich industrialist wearing his favorite overpriced jewelry.
A few users have brought up a solid point that I completely overlooked. In the Iron Man movie novelization, Obediah Stane removed Ten Rings cell leader Raza's bejeweled ring and wore it for the rest of the story. Though the ring Stane wears in the film looks different from the ring Raza wears, it's safe to assume that they look very similar for a reason. Why this was left out of the film has yet to be revealed. Remember that the Iron Man 2 novelization is due out in the beginning of April, so keep your eyes open for more hints on this theory.
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sounds like the armor wars storyline
Jesse_nz
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8 days to go!!!! cannot wait
villainsfan42
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that's the ht figure right? damn it just looks so inaccurate!
everything about this figure looks wrong. i mean, it looks kinda cool, but nothing like what war machine looks like in the movie or posters...
DinoLast
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DinoLast
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that's the ht figure right? damn it just looks so inaccurate!
everything about this figure looks wrong. i mean, it looks kinda cool, but nothing like what war machine looks like in the movie or posters...
No that's a promo poster.
Maybe you were joking as you used Halo Monkey?
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