Statue Iron Patriot Quarter Scale Maquette by Sideshow Collectibles

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The problem is prices are rising at the cost of inflation which means you are paying more for the same level of quality, BUT that level of quality is inconsistent between factories, and with SSCs ever increasing production slate you aren't going to get the same quality paint apps as you did yesteryear without paying a little more for it. Now if you were paying say $50 more a statue, but that ENSURED that, baring a brake during transport, you got a statue with an almost perfect paint app and tailoring, then I could easily see people bent happy with that. Hell make it a voluntary payment where you pay it and an SSC painter in California takes your piece out and touches it up right then and there BEFORE it ships to your house. I know I would pay for that assurance.

Yeah, great idea. Lets pay extra for the quality they promised in the first place.
 
This collection hobby becomes something more! No one wants to miss a piece even if it comes with defects from the factory! It turns to a wild race! No one cares QC cause everyone wants to be famous in terms of making their videos on youtube! I know people who are doing reviews of a piece which doesn't belong to them! For what? Also some very rich collectors affects that quality thing cause they repaint every piece from sideshow anyway! They don't care the prices or quality control! When things are going like this why does Sideshow care? It isn't ethic and I said it maybe millions of time but nobody listens! 500$ is a very serious price tag for some of us so it is our right to expect high quality but still there are thousand of cheerleaders of Sideshow! I know people who accepts those defects and still defending Sideshow as saying nothing is perfect!!! Ohh GOD, how does he earn money? I really wonder it!
 
Just chiming in on this horribly painted maquette. I received mine last week knowing what to look for. I found quite a bit of "drooling" black paint. Fortunately for me, most was on the back or not too terrible like I've seen in pictures. Honestly, my deciding factor was the Arc Reactor and star around it. Mine was just about flawless as are the arms, legs and base. The problems seem to really be limited to the torso and helmet (at least on mine).
 
Just chiming in on this horribly painted maquette. I received mine last week knowing what to look for. I found quite a bit of "drooling" black paint. Fortunately for me, most was on the back or not too terrible like I've seen in pictures. Honestly, my deciding factor was the Arc Reactor and star around it. Mine was just about flawless as are the arms, legs and base. The problems seem to really be limited to the torso and helmet (at least on mine).

Thanks for sharing. Good to know you've received one that you seem to be happy with.
 
Yeah, great idea. Lets pay extra for the quality they promised in the first place.

Hahahaha, soon enough we are used to the 90, then 80, then 60% resemblance of actual product to prototype shown.
 
The problem is prices are rising at the cost of inflation which means you are paying more for the same level of quality, BUT that level of quality is inconsistent between factories, and with SSCs ever increasing production slate you aren't going to get the same quality paint apps as you did yesteryear without paying a little more for it. Now if you were paying say $50 more a statue, but that ENSURED that, baring a brake during transport, you got a statue with an almost perfect paint app and tailoring, then I could easily see people bent happy with that. Hell make it a voluntary payment where you pay it and an SSC painter in California takes your piece out and touches it up right then and there BEFORE it ships to your house. I know I would pay for that assurance.



Meh... Inflation should not effect QC..

If they are making the same profit per piece as they were 10 years ago then QC should be the same... Since QC on older pieces seemed to be much better.
You might say "But they are making more" Ok but then that means more profits.. So use those profits towards QC.

You Don't raise the price and offer a lesser quality product. Makes no sense what so ever...

If you are going to make more of something, cut corners, and offer less QC... Well then Prices should go down not up.

Why can GG offer perfect paint apps but SS can't... Now I do think that GG IP seems to have less detail in the sculpt and a lesser base.. So there is the 100.00 difference... I guess... But SSC should be able to get those paint apps... Or at least try and find out how its done..

These IP paint apps are by far the worst I have ever seen by any company... It looks like it may have been Intern day at the factory.

In all honesty SSC should offer a full refund including shipping (Both ways) because this is nothing like what they advertised... Now I know they put the whole (Product may vary) but this goes beyond that description.



Ultimately... Would I be willing to pay 50.00 extra bucks for a perfect statue... Yeah... I guess so.. But I look at the Joker Arkham PF and feel that people are already paying the 50.00 extra.


Due to the higher prices and higher ES sizes.. I am guessing SSC is making a larger profit then ever before... GOOD for them... That is what business is all about... But you should stand by your product and try and keep your customers happy... Not cut corners and then tell them... Oh well.. and not change a thing,
 
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Meh... Inflation should not effect QC..

If they are making the same profit per piece as they were 10 years ago then QC should be the same... Since QC on older pieces seemed to be much better.
You might say "But they are making more" Ok but then that means more profits.. So use those profits towards QC.

You Don't raise the price and offer a lesser quality product. Makes no sense what so ever...

If you are going to make more of something, cut corners, and offer less QC... Well then Prices should go down not up.

Why can GG offer perfect paint apps but SS can't... Now I do think that GG IP seems to have less detail in the sculpt and a lesser base.. So there is the 100.00 difference... I guess... But SSC should be able to get those paint apps... Or at least try and find out how its done..

These IP paint apps are by far the worst I have ever seen by any company... It looks like it may have been Intern day at the factory.

In all honesty SSC should offer a full refund including shipping (Both ways) because this is nothing like what they advertised... Now I know they put the whole (Product may vary) but this goes beyond that description.



Ultimately... Would I be willing to pay 50.00 extra bucks for a perfect statue... Yeah... I guess so.. But I look at the Joker Arkham PF and feel that people are already paying the 50.00 extra.


Do to the higher prices and higher ES sizes.. I am guessing SSC is making a larger profit then ever before... GOOD for them... That is what business is all about... But you should stand by your product and try and keep your customers happy... Not cut corners and then tell them... Oh well.. and not change a thing,

Totally agree...
 
Meh... Inflation should not effect QC..

If they are making the same profit per piece as they were 10 years ago then QC should be the same... Since QC on older pieces seemed to be much better.
You might say "But they are making more" Ok but then that means more profits.. So use those profits towards QC.

You Don't raise the price and offer a lesser quality product. Makes no sense what so ever...

If you are going to make more of something, cut corners, and offer less QC... Well then Prices should go down not up.

Why can GG offer perfect paint apps but SS can't... Now I do think that GG IP seems to have less detail in the sculpt and a lesser base.. So there is the 100.00 difference... I guess... But SSC should be able to get those paint apps... Or at least try and find out how its done..

These IP paint apps are by far the worst I have ever seen by any company... It looks like it may have been Intern day at the factory.

In all honesty SSC should offer a full refund including shipping (Both ways) because this is nothing like what they advertised... Now I know they put the whole (Product may vary) but this goes beyond that description.



Ultimately... Would I be willing to pay 50.00 extra bucks for a perfect statue... Yeah... I guess so.. But I look at the Joker Arkham PF and feel that people are already paying the 50.00 extra.


Do to the higher prices and higher ES sizes.. I am guessing SSC is making a larger profit then ever before... GOOD for them... That is what business is all about... But you should stand by your product and try and keep your customers happy... Not cut corners and then tell them... Oh well.. and not change a thing,

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Great post Jaws.

I :rotfl'd at the 'Intern Day' comment.
 


The paint apps are so good and clean on this 1/2 scale version, that one might assume it's made of plastic. If I had this, I might consider getting it professionally weathered up like the way it looked in the movie. It'd make for a nice added touch of realism to an already top-notch paint app. This company must've used automotive paints to get it to look that good.
 
Once a company is healthy and doesn't have to make a name for themselves (like Sideshow but also MANY others), the idea is quite simply to drive up profit. It's normal: The investors will expect better return on investment, employees will expect better salaries, etc, etc. All of that at BETTER rates than the market and inflation (otherwise, the company doesn't grow).

Now, there are two ways to do that (most will do both at the same time and some will push REALLY hard on just one):

1) Raise the prices as much as possible (but not to the point where your clients can't afford your products)
2) Lower the costs as much as possible (but not the the point where the quality of your product will suffer and your clients won't be interested anymore)

Of course, there is no way for them to be 100% sure what is the "maximum" price their clients will support (Modern Thor PF?) and the "minimum" quality they're willing to accept (Iron Patriot Maquette?). So, they will test the waters... If the client goes along, buy and keep their products, they learnt something and will repeat in the future (they will also try to go even farther to drive their profits even more). If the client doesn't, they also learnt something (maybe they went too far this time and will correct in the future). But each time they lower the quality and/or raise the prices, it's not because they absolutely NEED it to keep their heads out of the water and stay in business, it's because they want to know if the market can absorb it and give them a better return on investment.

Bottom line is a company certainly need (and have every rights) to make and raise profits. But don't expect them to limit themselves on the level of profit they will make if they're able to make even more.
 
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