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Is Star Wars better off without George Lucas?

  • Yes

    Votes: 5 11.6%
  • No

    Votes: 27 62.8%
  • Yes and no

    Votes: 11 25.6%

  • Total voters
    43

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Inspired by this podcast, I now present a poll.

I could have voted "yes and no", but ultimately decided on "no". I think the best Disney has brought to the table is simply the continuation of the franchise.
 
Yes and no. I equate George Lucas a little bit with Stan Lee. They both had tons of creativity, and executed their visions remarkably well when in their prime, but ultimately suffered from some diminishing of their storytelling skills over time. And like Stan Lee benefitted from Jack Kirby as a co-creator, so too did Lucas benefit from Gary Kurtz. Kirby and Kurtz had strong ideas of their own, and weren't just "yes men." Lee and Lucas were better for that, imo.

Even when the Marvel characters and concepts that Stan Lee gave birth to had their most memorable storylines and moments during his runs, many of the books only really hit their peak after he left (even after he was no longer the editor there). With George Lucas out of the picture, I don't see any reason why someone else can't similarly take the SW universe and make their own vanguard impression with great/memorable films of their own.

I think the key going forward is a willingness to be bold and try new things. Going back to my Stan Lee/Marvel example: Daredevil hit new heights under Miller because Frank redefined the character and tone. Same went for the X-Men under Claremont. But if SW creators are too afraid (or LFL too unwilling) to take creative chances, then nothing will ever come close to touching the OT.

Lucas didn't rely on being "safe" and "familiar" when he progressed through his SW films. For me, that's one of his most admirable qualities. For better or worse, it's the only way to give the films any kind of worthwhile legacy. You can't/shouldn't just keep trying to do homages to the OT.

So, no, SW isn't better off without George . . . but, yes, it has the potential to be.
 
Like Batman before Miller, Star Wars needs to go away for a while and be re-invented by someone with true vision.

Maybe a very dark and gritty take IS the way to go. I mean, the original did take place in a time of civil war with occupied territories. Maybe it should be much bleaker and harsher. Not a fairy tale anymore, but a cautionary tale instead.
 
A resounding YES! Disney has done more for Star Wars in 7(?) years than Lucas did in 16 (between ROTJ & Phantom Menace)! Not to mention - as one can tell from the prequels, that he lost his touch.
 
Star Wars is better off without its fans.


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SW is better off without too much SW.

It was a great idea for three movies. Everything since has been an exercise in “hey, remember those three movies that were great?”

But to take the question at face value, I’d say yes and no - Disney has found different ways to make bad SW.
 
Dont want to sound like an ***hole, but this is definitely a stupid question.

Without George Lucas, there would be no StarWars...StarWars eventually is his story and vision...better not trying to fall into that slippery slope like most of those ungracious Sequel fanatics here.
 
Star Wars is better off without its fans.


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:slapWithout them the movies would have ended in 1977. Without the OT this board probably wouldn't exist, Sideshow wouldn't exist, toy action figures as a whole would not be as popular, etc.
 
I voted no.
Unfortunately, Disney, KK, JJ and RJ have brought very little of actual value to the franchise IMHO.
George Lucas however, is better off without Star Wars...
 
Yes and no. I equate George Lucas a little bit with Stan Lee. They both had tons of creativity, and executed their visions remarkably well when in their prime, but ultimately suffered from some diminishing of their storytelling skills over time. And like Stan Lee benefitted from Jack Kirby as a co-creator, so too did Lucas benefit from Gary Kurtz. Kirby and Kurtz had strong ideas of their own, and weren't just "yes men." Lee and Lucas were better for that, imo.

Even when the Marvel characters and concepts that Stan Lee gave birth to had their most memorable storylines and moments during his runs, many of the books only really hit their peak after he left (even after he was no longer the editor there). With George Lucas out of the picture, I don't see any reason why someone else can't similarly take the SW universe and make their own vanguard impression with great/memorable films of their own.

I think the key going forward is a willingness to be bold and try new things. Going back to my Stan Lee/Marvel example: Daredevil hit new heights under Miller because Frank redefined the character and tone. Same went for the X-Men under Claremont. But if SW creators are too afraid (or LFL too unwilling) to take creative chances, then nothing will ever come close to touching the OT.

Lucas didn't rely on being "safe" and "familiar" when he progressed through his SW films. For me, that's one of his most admirable qualities. For better or worse, it's the only way to give the films any kind of worthwhile legacy. You can't/shouldn't just keep trying to do homages to the OT.

So, no, SW isn't better off without George . . . but, yes, it has the potential to be.

Truly an epic post.

Like Batman before Miller, Star Wars needs to go away for a while and be re-invented by someone with true vision.

Maybe a very dark and gritty take IS the way to go. I mean, the original did take place in a time of civil war with occupied territories. Maybe it should be much bleaker and harsher. Not a fairy tale anymore, but a cautionary tale instead.

How about something sophisticated like taxation of trade routes?

Star Wars is better off without its fans.


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lulz

I voted no.
Unfortunately, Disney, KK, JJ and RJ have brought very little of actual value to the franchise IMHO.
George Lucas however, is better off without Star Wars...

Still got Mandalorian, Cassian and OB1 to help reverse course.


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I said yes and no..

I have said this before and I will say it again..


The PT needed more Lawrance Kasdan and the ST needed more of George Lucas.

Say what you wnat about the PT but there is far more imagination going in those films then the ST. If Lawrence was there to help be a buffer for George we may have gotten something special with the PT.

But the ST is really lacking Lucas' magic touch. The galaxy feels lifeless and the story is without direction from its creator and it shows.



I would have just voted NO... But I had to take R1 into consideration.. That film was a pretty great Star Wars movie. Solo was OK and was neither great nor awful.
 
A resounding YES! Disney has done more for Star Wars in 7(?) years than Lucas did in 16 (between ROTJ & Phantom Menace)! Not to mention - as one can tell from the prequels, that he lost his touch.
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Do you think that's bleak and gritty?


I mean, imagine a Saving Private Ryan opening as a Star Wars battle. It hasn't been done.... yet.

Many thought RO was going to be SPR.

I was like nope they ain?t spilling no guts.

Although credit to RO they did nuke their protagonist lol


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George created it. Nobody does it better, even with the flaws.

Plus people seem to forget how much innovation George has brought to films. Think about it, and we would be back in the Stone Age without him, as far as the cinema goes.
 
His creation of new cinema tech has nothing to do with being able to write a good script lol

No GL only surrounded himself with YES people.

It is well documented how Star Wars 77 was just as much shaped by Kurtz and Marcia as it was Lucas.


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