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See I took it differently. I saw Stark going to Ross as the solution for his problem. Banner is off the radar at this point, even going by "David" (Did you catch that nice throwaway to the show?) and when he said "What if I told you we are putting a team together" to me that indicated that he was offering The Avengers to find and capture The Hulk.

Hmm, that makes sense. I just assumed the Hulk would be a part of the avengers so they were trying to recruit him...but maybe in trying to capture they will realize the hulk is an asset to the team.....
 
You have to remember that Ross and probably the rest of the US are thinking that The Hulk is an out of control Monster like Abomination. The only record the people have is the incident at Culver University and of course the incidents before hand. One could naturally assume that Hulk would be considered a problem that The Avengers would have to hunt down.

One could simply envision the same kind of thing where they capture the Hulk then realize they need the Hulk to fight a villain.
 
According to the director who is willing to do a sequel he is more than willing to use the Leader or Doc Samson as the next Hulk villain. The problem is Marvel Studios has yet to officially announce a sequel and Edward Norton DOES NOT have a sequels clause in his contract. Tyler, Hurt and even the director LeTerrier all do.
 
Yup. Samuel Sterns in the real name of the Leader and the shot of just his head enlarging was a nice little wink at the comic fans.
 
It is amazing how different a view we can all come away with after watching the same movie.

As far as Stark going to Ross instead of Banner. I figured that Banner had gained some control over Hulk after the drug and the forced change to fight Abomination. And that now Ross is acting as sort of a responsible party to the Hulk now. And that Banner intentionally changing in the end of the movie alluded to that gained control.

If that were the case, it would be a matter of course to go through Ross to find Hulk.

Sure was a good movie, wasn't it?
 
Banner hasn't learned to control the Hulk yet, the final scene in British Columbia shows that he is trying and the eyes changing mixed with the smile was supposed to indicate that he has not only accepted The Hulk but is beginning to enjoy the change. As for Stark going for Ross, Ross is completely responsible for The Hulk since he was the commanding officer behind the project, there are some deleted scenes indicating that the US Military blames Ross for this and Abomination that we'll see on the DVD. He went to Ross as an offering for clean up, their dialogue indicates the arrogance of Tony Stark saying "I told you it wouldn't work and now I'm offering to clean it up for you"...that tone is in his words.

I absolutely loved the movie, seen it 7 times.....twice in theaters. ;)
 
After seeing The Incredible Hulk Friday, i was wondering about something. From the Captain America shield in Starks' lab, Nick Saint talking about S.H.I.E.L.D., the deleted scene with The Hulk smashing the ice and finding Captain America and Stark talking to Ross. Does it all fit together over a period of time?
 
After seeing The Incredible Hulk Friday, i was wondering about something. From the Captain America shield in Starks' lab, Nick Saint talking about S.H.I.E.L.D., the deleted scene with The Hulk smashing the ice and finding Captain America and Stark talking to Ross. Does it all fit together over a period of time?

Yes..it's called "The Avengers" in 2011-2012 I believe...

Its been known for a while that this is Marvel's plan.
 
Yes..it's called "The Avengers" in 2011-2012 I believe...

Its been known for a while that this is Marvel's plan.

I know that.

I mean do Iron Man and The Incredible Hulk connect in a way. Does Stark know about Captain America since the shield is in his lab? How would it all fit if you put those two stories in a timeline, if you know what i mean? I guess it's a little hard to explain.
 
Since Hulks origin story, at the beginning of the film, takes place months (five?) before the events of the film, I assumed his origin took place before Stark becomes Iron Man. Then the events of the Iron Man film followed by the main story of the Hulk film.

1. Banner becomes Hulk for the first time, goes on the run. (5 months ago)
2. Military contacts Stark industries to make those "sound machine Humvees"
3. Stark Captured, becomes Iron Man (3 months)
4. The rest of the events of the Iron Man film.
5. The events of the Hulk film starting with Banner in Brazil.


Since Cap didn't make it into the final cut of the film, it's possible that he has not yet been found, or at least not by the Hulk. His shield could have either not been with him when he got frozen in WW2 or it got seperated from him in the ice, found later and purchased by Stark?
 
Since Cap didn't make it into the final cut of the film, it's possible that he has not yet been found, or at least not by the Hulk. His shield could have either not been with him when he got frozen in WW2 or it got seperated from him in the ice, found later and purchased by Stark?

Captain America didnt get his modern unbreakable shield until he was thawed out. He had a similar shield during WWII, but like the exclusive PF it was shaped like the American crest. If iim not mistaking (I might be) the shield in Tony Starks lab was the round version. Which makes me think Stark made the shield for different reasons and will hand it over to captain america either in the Cap movie after the credits (since the cap movie is supposed to be exclusively WWII), or in the Avengers movie.

I would assume that Stark knows about Captain America since in this universe he was a giant part of American History even though he may not know Cap is alive, or will/has returned. But he could have made a shield similar to Cap's during WWII just as a convenient plot device throwback to honor great American Heroes.
 
After seeing The Incredible Hulk Friday, i was wondering about something. From the Captain America shield in Starks' lab, Nick Fury talking about S.H.I.E.L.D., the deleted scene with The Hulk smashing the ice and finding Captain America and Stark talking to Ross. Does it all fit together over a period of time?

It fits together within the same year of occurrance although Stark first becoming Iron Man and Fury discussing the fact there are other heroes indicates that one of the Avengers or the rest of the Avengers would have been "origin'd" before him. Hulk wouldn't count because I doubt they consider the Hulk a superhero since by the end of his film he doesn't have control of his powers yet.

1. Banner becomes Hulk for the first time, goes on the run. (5 months ago)
2. Military contacts Stark industries to make those "sound machine Humvees"
3. Stark Captured, becomes Iron Man (3 months)
4. The rest of the events of the Iron Man film.
5. The events of the Hulk film starting with Banner in Brazil.

This is about the timeline I was thinking although taking the fact that SHIELD technology is readily used within the Hulk film by the military and that SHIELD was first originated in the Iron Man I would put some time within the end of Iron Man and the Brazilian beginning of Hulk.


Since Cap didn't make it into the final cut of the film, it's possible that he has not yet been found, or at least not by the Hulk. His shield could have either not been with him when he got frozen in WW2 or it got seperated from him in the ice, found later and purchased by Stark?

He had his WWII Shield the second one rounded with him when he froze but it isn't unbreakable back then just a symbol and well....shield. He is given his new shield when he is modernized.

Here is how it goes:

Years later,[27] the superhero team the Avengers discovers Steve Rogers' body in the North Atlantic, his costume under his soldier's uniform and still carrying his shield. After he revives, they piece together that Rogers had been preserved in a block of ice since 1945, surviving in such a state only because of his enhancements from Operation Rebirth. The block had begun to melt after the Sub-Mariner, enraged that an Arctic Inuit tribe is worshiping the frozen figure, throws it into the ocean. Rogers accepts membership in the Avengers, and although long out of his time, his considerable combat experience makes him a valuable asset to the team. He quickly assumes leadership,[28] and has typically returned to that position throughout the team's history.

The finding looks a little like this although you have to ignore the text written in ^^^^^ing about the lack of Cap in The Incredible Hulk:

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This is where they use a bit of the Ultimate timeline because in that segment of the Avengers story they use everything and anything Stark Industries which means that naturally Cap's new modern shield would be created by Stark himself.

Captain America didnt get his modern unbreakable shield until he was thawed out. He had a similar shield during WWII, but like the exclusive PF it was shaped like the American crest. If iim not mistaking (I might be) the shield in Tony Starks lab was the round version. Which makes me think Stark made the shield for different reasons and will hand it over to captain america either in the Cap movie after the credits (since the cap movie is supposed to be exclusively WWII), or in the Avengers movie.

I would assume that Stark knows about Captain America since in this universe he was a giant part of American History even though he may not know Cap is alive, or will/has returned. But he could have made a shield similar to Cap's during WWII just as a convenient plot device throwback to honor great American Heroes.

Partly correct. Cap already had his circular shield in the original comics as early as Captain America 2:

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Stark's Lab shield was the circular shield sort of....rather the beginnings of one:

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One rumor is that while they are getting Cap back on his feet that his shield is worse for wear so when Tony is in his shop he see the stuff on top of one another and gets the idea to create it, then presents it to Cap. A little different than the comics but realistic.
 
Booyah, Hulk and Mike, thanks fellas :rock It's starting to make more sense now. Now i jst have to explain it to my brother:emperor :D
 
Took the day off from work today and I double-dipped in the theater - caught Hulk first, then Wanted.

I enjoyed both, but Hulk was a much better movie. I'd say it's on par with Iron Man. Fun movies, didn't mess with backgrounds too much, entertaining all around and satisfying enough for the fanboy in me.
 
After having to fight a cold when the Incredible Hulk first came out, I finally got to see it today.
I absolutely loved it! The story, dialog, acting, editing, music and directing was great. I felt that Ed Norton made a better Banner then Eric Bana, Ed seemed to have more personality. Tim Roth made a good villain, but I'd like to see more background on his character. Liv Tyler gave a great performance, and looked absolutely beautiful. William Hurt was a very good Ross, and although I do think Sam Elliott played it more intensely, I prefer Ross not being so protective of his daughter, and more self centered and obsessed; that made Ross seem more like a villain.
The CGI was a bit iffy at times though. Sometimes an actor was supposed to be looking at the Hulk and it seemed like they weren't looking directly at him, also it seemed that the Hulk looked more realistic up close than further away. I do prefer the look of this Hulk more then the Shrek looking one in the first movie.
Overall, I like The Incredible Hulk more then the first, but I still like the first one too.

Compared to Iron Man, the Hulk isn't as good but I feel that was because it had to be a very different movie. Stark is much more charismatic and doesn't have to deal with the same melancholy as Banner, so the Incredible Hulk had to be a little less fun. But I was surprised how much humor they did manage to put in.

I wasn't familiar with some of the references in it, I got the super serum stuff but missed the Leader and Doc Samson set ups. I love where they're going with this, I really hope they keep the same exact team and actors for a sequel.
 
After having to fight a cold when the Incredible Hulk first came out, I finally got to see it today.
I absolutely loved it! The story, dialog, acting, editing, music and directing was great. I felt that Ed Norton made a better Banner then Eric Bana, Ed seemed to have more personality. Tim Roth made a good villain, but I'd like to see more background on his character. Liv Tyler gave a great performance, and looked absolutely beautiful. William Hurt was a very good Ross, and although I do think Sam Elliott played it more intensely, I prefer Ross not being so protective of his daughter, and more self centered and obsessed; that made Ross seem more like a villain.
The CGI was a bit iffy at times though. Sometimes an actor was supposed to be looking at the Hulk and it seemed like they weren't looking directly at him, also it seemed that the Hulk looked more realistic up close than further away. I do prefer the look of this Hulk more then the Shrek looking one in the first movie.
Overall, I like The Incredible Hulk more then the first, but I still like the first one too.

Compared to Iron Man, the Hulk isn't as good but I feel that was because it had to be a very different movie. Stark is much more charismatic and doesn't have to deal with the same melancholy as Banner, so the Incredible Hulk had to be a little less fun. But I was surprised how much humor they did manage to put in.

I wasn't familiar with some of the references in it, I got the super serum stuff but missed the Leader and Doc Samson set ups. I love where they're going with this, I really hope they keep the same exact team and actors for a sequel.


I'm right there with you on this one. I absolutely loved the Incredible Hulk, but I still give props to Ang Lee's version. :cool: In terms of the lead role, I wasn't so sure about Norton as Banner at first, but he pulled it off very, very well. Overall, it was successful second effort by Marvel in my book. :banana
 
The DVD Release looks to be a 3 Disc Version:

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No release date or specifications have been announced yet
 
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