J.J. Abrams' Star Trek Into Darkness

[Wulf]

Seems to be getting good reviews over at IMDb. 8.3/10.

https://www.imdb.com/title/tt1408101/

Pretty sure you've quoted one such fan.

And I side with him on the subject.

Star Wars prequels right?

 

[CelticPredator]

Pretty sure you've quoted one such fan.

And I side with him on the subject.

Well, you haven't seen it yet. Even if you agree with all that or whatever, you still need to actually watch it and make up your own mind.

My favorite Critics really didn't like Django. And from what they said, it sounded pretty iffy.

That was not the case. The film has one section I just don't like. But the rest? Cinematic bliss.

 

[a-dev]

Star Wars prequels right?

Yep, I'm quite sure IrishJedi is one of the whiners you talk about. As am I, and damn proud.

Having said that I'd say Abrams is more suited to Star Wars than Star Trek. I'm certainly sure it'll be better than any of the PT by default.

 

[Rorywan]

Highlight of the movie for me?

Spoiler

After Kirks death, when Spock does the Shatner "Khaaaan!!!" Shout.
Pure ****ing bliss.

 

[a-dev]

Well, you haven't seen it yet. Even if you agree with all that or whatever, you still need to actually watch it and make up your own mind.

My favorite Critics really didn't like Django. And from what they said, it sounded pretty iffy.

That was not the case. The film has one section I just don't like. But the rest? Cinematic bliss.

I have no doubt the new Trek is an enjoyable film. Just from the sounds of it it takes some liberties with Trek lore that I'd rather it not take and like the 2009 film has some gaping plot holes worthy of facepalm.

I'm sure I'll enjoy it though.

 

[CelticPredator]

Possibly. I'm not automatically calling it good. I'm just saying, give it a whirl before ye judge. But I don't think it really matters what they do with Trek lore at this point. It's not like the other time line doesn't exist. It's just a different one.

I'm not a big fan of the "twist"...mostly because it holds no relevance to anyone except people who know who....well....yeah. So it's just sorta pointless in my opinion.But it's kinda cool, because that film it ties into is the only Trek movie I can watch, aside from the 09 one.

 

[Wulf]

Yep, I'm quite sure IrishJedi is one of the whiners you talk about. As am I, and damn proud.

 

[a-dev]

You don't know the power of prequel hating!

 

[Wulf]

You don't know the power of prequel hating!

But as you said, the sequel trilogy.. judging by how good the new Star Trek movies are, I think JJ Abrams are going to do them justice. And by default they'll be better than the prequel trilogy. Not because I dislike the prequel trilogy, I don't. But because I much more prefer the style of JJ Abrams and the quality of his movies. The new Star Wars movies are going to be epic. Perhaps much more than the original trilogy, but that will be hard to top considering the classical value of the OT.

 

[IrishJedi]

I spent quite a bit of time watching this thinking... **** we are going to get a Star Wars movie of this quality...!

You are quite right mix this with a great writer and we could at last get something amazing..

Incidentally, the Man of Steel trailer was in 3D before my screening, not to convinced the 3d looked too good. Was the screening of MOS you saw in 3D Irish? The one I saw was in 2D so I'm curious as to how this conversion looks.

Yeah, with Kathy Kennedy overseeing things, Lawrence Kasdan back in the fold, a screenplay by a talented scribe (this isn't even the case with the current TREK movies, where the scripts are easily the weakest link), and a director with not only visual flair but the propensity to focus on characters and real emotion... SW EP7 really has no excuse but to be at least miles better than the prequels.

I did not see MAN OF STEEL in 3D, no. They were actually finalizing the conversion when I saw it last month. But I did see it in full HD, and it was grand. I'm not sure how the 3D will turn out, because Zack didn't want to shoot with 3D or digital cameras and insisted on 35mm film. In fact, he didn't want a 3D post-conversion at all, but he lost that particular battle with the studio. So if the 3D sucks, it's on them. But Zack and his team are doing what they can to make the 3D as good as possible, I hear.

 

[CelticPredator]

^ Director's intent will always weigh out studio medling. 2D for me.

 

[IrishJedi]

Yeah, if you wanna see MAN OF STEEL the way Zack intended, definitely go with 2D. That's not to say 3D won't be cool, especially in IMAX.

 

[Dark_Knight_89]

Never been a fan of 3D anyway. Whenever a movie is released, I will always go for the 2D showing.

Except Avatar and Dredd, they were both incredible.

 

[chewblacca]

Just a thought: is Paramount in to this new Star Trek for the long haul or is this just a trilogy? If its just a trilogy, could the reason that Nemoy's Spock is still around is because he will find a way to go back in time to the old universe before Nero jumps and stops him, thereby never creating this alternate universe in the first place?

 

[a-dev]

Just a thought: is Paramount in to this new Star Trek for the long haul or is this just a trilogy? If its just a trilogy, could the reason that Nemoy's Spock is still around is because he will find a way to go back in time to the old universe before Nero jumps and stops him, thereby never creating this alternate universe in the first place?

Much as that would make sense to me as I just cannot understand why old Spock didn't even consider attempting to undo the timeline change as they have always done in Star Trek (and over relatively more minor things than the total destruction of an entire planet) - I very much doubt thats the plan. They will want to preserve this new timeline and the alternate ways of doing pre-existing Trek stories - beyond this new batch of films.

 

[chewblacca]

Did Paramount go to JJ to revive Star Trek, or was this storyline something that he went to them with?

 

[lerath666]

So, now knowing who Benedict is playing...

Spoiler

Khan

[ame]https://youtu.be/DLWiWAWN4Ko[/ame]



Am I the only one who was kinda hoping it was someone like... oh...

Spoiler

Q?

OR for that matter... what would it take to get Q in these films?

Not that i'm disapointed in it being Khan. It's awesome that it's Khan.But still... Need Q in a movie

 

[shockwave]

He should be holding a joint.....

 

[Rorywan]

Yeah, with Kathy Kennedy overseeing things, Lawrence Kasdan back in the fold, a screenplay by a talented scribe (this isn't even the case with the current TREK movies, where the scripts are easily the weakest link), and a director with not only visual flair but the propensity to focus on characters and real emotion... SW EP7 really has no excuse but to be at least miles better than the prequels.

I did not see MAN OF STEEL in 3D, no. They were actually finalizing the conversion when I saw it last month. But I did see it in full HD, and it was grand. I'm not sure how the 3D will turn out, because Zack didn't want to shoot with 3D or digital cameras and insisted on 35mm film. In fact, he didn't want a 3D post-conversion at all, but he lost that particular battle with the studio. So if the 3D sucks, it's on them. But Zack and his team are doing what they can to make the 3D as good as possible, I hear.

Sorry to mention MOS in here again, but just to say the screening I saw was 2D not sure if it was full HD or not, but it looked pretty amazing, the trailer clips I saw in 3D today added NOTHING but the IMAX screen certainly did. So 2D IMAX for me when I see it again it think.

I also saw After Earth today. Again pointless 3D. I presume Episode 7 is going down the 3D route, if its as good as the 3D in Into Darkness then time to get excited.

 

[Kuzeh]

Yeah, with Kathy Kennedy overseeing things, Lawrence Kasdan back in the fold, a screenplay by a talented scribe (this isn't even the case with the current TREK movies, where the scripts are easily the weakest link), and a director with not only visual flair but the propensity to focus on characters and real emotion... SW EP7 really has no excuse but to be at least miles better than the prequels.

I did not see MAN OF STEEL in 3D, no. They were actually finalizing the conversion when I saw it last month. But I did see it in full HD, and it was grand. I'm not sure how the 3D will turn out, because Zack didn't want to shoot with 3D or digital cameras and insisted on 35mm film. In fact, he didn't want a 3D post-conversion at all, but he lost that particular battle with the studio. So if the 3D sucks, it's on them. But Zack and his team are doing what they can to make the 3D as good as possible, I hear.

Yeah, if you wanna see MAN OF STEEL the way Zack intended, definitely go with 2D. That's not to say 3D won't be cool, especially in IMAX.

I know from a good source that the 3D conversion for this movie is top notch. They've spared no expense apparently... And Snyder himself was quite pleased with the result!
I want to see it in 2D first though... and then I'll see it in IMAX 3D,
same with Pacific Rim.