J.J. Abrams' Star Trek Into Darkness

[JAWS]

Yeah, I loved Elfman's Batman themes. I would rate him behind Horner though, who is second IMO, behind the master, John Williams.

Horner's Krull was one of my favorites.

Personally I would not have Horner so high. While some of his themes are great he tends to repeat himself often. I mean some of his score tracks seem lifted right from his other film scores.

I have a love hate with Danny Elfman. While I love His score to Batman and Batman Returns, I thought he Spiderman score (which sounded at times like "there is a place for us" from the Song "Somewhere" from West Side Story) was about as boring and non memorable of a theme as you could get.

I would rate Goldsmith higher. Behind Williams. I would put Howard Shore above Horner also for his LOTR work alone.

Though I will say that Horner's Star Trek theme and music is far Better then Goldsmith's Star Trek scores.

 

[a-dev]

Theres not much of Goldsmith that I really listen to. Only his Star Trek scores, Total Recall and Alien. Whereas theres loads of different Horner scores I play. True he does self-plagiarise but it still all sounds so good. So personally I rate Horner above Goldsmith. John Williams isn't the force he once was. His scores these days are interchangeable IMO. But his legendary status was earned long ago.

 

[JAWS]

Theres not much of Goldsmith that I really listen to. Only his Star Trek scores, Total Recall and Alien. Whereas theres loads of different Horner scores I play. True he does self-plagiarise but it still all sounds so good. So personally I rate Horner above Goldsmith. John Williams isn't the force he once was. His scores these days are interchangeable IMO. But his legendary status was earned long ago.

Yes I agree about Williams. I can't remember the last truly great score that he had.

Goldsmith's First Blood, First Blood Part II, and Poltergeist are some of my all time favs.

Kind of funny. Except for his Star Trek Score and his Aliens Score I don't really listen to any Horner music. Like you but in reverse

I just really grew tired of Horner's Pan Flute and his Khan theme making an appearance in so many of his scores.

 

[CelticPredator]

Maybe. Once I heard all the times he's stolen from himself, I kinda felt...ehh...towards him.

Stealing from yourself is pretty damn lazy. It was justified with Aliens...but not with Avatar. Although I do enjoy a lot of his work....that just irks me.

I feel that way about Zimmer too. That last Pirates score was as bland and boring as the movie. The only good aspects were the Rodrigo y Gabrella stuff, which never made it into the film.

 

[CelticPredator]

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Eh....****....!

[ame]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-tQpAPMT_Rc[/ame]

 

[CelticPredator]

[ame]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VGudWMHVZ7o[/ame]

 

[FQRizzo]

Spoiler

-The thing about Vulcans that most non-Trekkers don't get is that all Vulcans can feel emotions, it's just that they suppress them. Spock being half human shouldn't make him all that different from other Vulcans even though he's repeatedly treated like he is both in the Abrams films and the original stuff. I liked how he effected the story in STID, but I'd like a return to the more emotionless Spock in future movies.

-Either Khan knew that Admiral Marcus was trying to incite a war with the Klingons and went there to force a confrontation between the two sides or, Khan went someplace to regroup that the Federation couldn't follow.

-The Vengeance was big because it was built to confront a threat on the scale of the Narada which was even bigger than the Vengeance. The ship was more to make Admiral Marcus a threat than Khan. But I also feel they were using the history of Khan being so deadly with a small ship like the Reliant to foreshadow that he would be an even deadlier threat with the Vengeance.

-If McCoy tried to remove one of the other Augments to take their blood he would've killed them. It was established that without knowing the proper way to de-hibernate them, they would die from the procedure. McCoy wasn't about to kill someone in cold blood to revive Kirk. That's why he needed Khan's blood.

-It was used in the recent Star Trek Video Game. But I personally loved the scene and I'm glad it's there.

Spoiler

...yet Bones totally thawed out a Khan crew member to freeze Kirk anyway. So that theory doesn't hold

 

[Wanderer]

If you want beauty as well as Power in you film Scores then you can't go wrong with Basil Poledouris' Conan the Barbarian score.

Let's not forget Robcop and Starship Troopers

As for John Williams, he's an icon no doubt as is his music but he's not my favourite composer.

Ramin DJawdi is one to watch btw...he's doing impressive things on Game of Thrones. Particularly season 2's music.

 

[CelticPredator]

Ramin's scores usually always outshine the film.

Iron Man's score was impressive. Fright Night was outstanding. Loved Clash of the Titian's score.

 

[Adolfo]

Theres not much of Goldsmith that I really listen to. Only his Star Trek scores, Total Recall and Alien. Whereas theres loads of different Horner scores I play. True he does self-plagiarise but it still all sounds so good. So personally I rate Horner above Goldsmith. John Williams isn't the force he once was. His scores these days are interchangeable IMO. But his legendary status was earned long ago.

JG also I think did the early Rambo scores...I think...Horner did Wolfen too I think...been along time since seeing that great flick with its great score(shades of Aliens in it)

 

[CelticPredator]

Goldsmith is the man.

But Silvestri is my favorite. I like that they both did Mummy scores. But Silvertri's take was the superior one for me.

 

[Wanderer]

Ramin's scores usually always outshine the film.

Iron Man's score was impressive. Fright Night was outstanding. Loved Clash of the Titian's score.

Outside of Iron Man and GOT, I didn't realise he composed the scores for the other films but only coz they were a bit pap!

 

[screamingmetal]

Spoiler

...yet Bones totally thawed out a Khan crew member to freeze Kirk anyway. So that theory doesn't hold

Spoiler

You're right, I remember McCoy putting one into a coma but thought it happened after they gave Kirk the blood. Perhaps there's something about hyper sleep that would've prevented McCoy from using their blood?

 

[CelticPredator]

Outside of Iron Man and GOT, I didn't realise he composed the scores for the other films but only coz they were a bit pap!

I don't know what any of this means.

 

[Wanderer]

I don't know what any of this means.

As simple as I can say it: fright night and the other film u mentioned were a bit crap ... As such I have no interest and didn't realise he composed (created) the score (music) for them.

 

[CelticPredator]

You don't need to watch the films to appreciate the score.

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[ame]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7xr516Z3mew[/ame]

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[ame]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=x1mChFEL_8E[/ame]

 

[JAWS]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sACBslhhWUg

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Eh....****....!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-tQpAPMT_Rc

LOL You could throw in the Commando theme with the Gorky Park and 48 hours music as well as some tracks from Red Heat.

 

[gdb]

Spoiler

You're right, I remember McCoy putting one into a coma but thought it happened after they gave Kirk the blood. Perhaps there's something about hyper sleep that would've prevented McCoy from using their blood?

Spoiler

I got the impression in Space Seed and Wrath of Kahn that Kahn was the strongest and most genetically superior. So I assumed that Kahn's blood was special even among his crew.

 

[FQRizzo]

Spoiler

I got the impression in Space Seed and Wrath of Kahn that Kahn was the strongest and most genetically superior. So I assumed that Kahn's blood was special even among his crew.

It's all assumptions, unfortunately.

 

[gdb]

It's all assumptions, unfortunately.

Why "Unfortunatly?" Like most Trek stories, the movie is an alagory for modern day events:

Spoiler

Terrorism. Drone strikes. Rogue military action. "One of our own" causes a terrorist strike before escaping to an enemy territory; a warmongering general sends a secret mission to bomb the sovereign nation but instead the unit captures their fellow citizen; the general attacks the unit in an effort to cover everything up.

The whole argument is framed to come to one simple point: Spock can't kill Kahn if he wants Kirk to live. In essence, the needs of the many outweigh the need for revenge. The rest is details.