J.J. Abrams' Star Trek Into Darkness

[dragonsleeper]

Spoiler

I already forgot about Wrath of Khan and when Cumberbatch revealed he was indeed KHAN

It was awesome!! Made the movie for me...worth the price of admission!

 

[SnakeDoctor]

Maybe so but Star Trek II > Star Trek 2

without having even seen the latter

Spoiler

Perhaps. But, STID was better than 'Space Seed' ... which is more comparable. This was the first encounter with Khan, not the second.

This Trek's 'Wrath of Khan' is still down the road.

SnakeDoc

 

[CelticPredator]

Well, at least it would be an original film. Unless they go about killing Spock again.

 

[Adolfo]

Maybe so but Star Trek II > Star Trek 2

without having even seen the latter

Wont dispute that...but this one was good

 

[Adolfo]

Iron Man 3 is still the best film for me of the summer.

Blah!....no way...but hey to each his own

 

[CelticPredator]

Star Trek II is the best original Star Trek thing.

Maybe that funny one where they go to San Francisco's good too. Don't know.

 

[CelticPredator]

Blah!....no way...but hey to each his own

Hence why I said, ME. It was satisfying on every level. Pure Shane Blackness.

 

[Adolfo]

I personally felt more emotionally attached to ST than IM...I gotta admit ST felt a little James Bondish of a film...Bond You are to go get him type...LOL...I hope for all the success in the world for this ST film.

 

[Adolfo]

Hence why I said, ME. It was satisfying on every level. Pure Shane Blackness.

Nothing wrong with Fun Shane Black...It just didnt surpass ST for me

 

[CelticPredator]

If they didn't steal from other movies, I would've probably been more attached. But they did. So I wasn't.

 

[Niltusk]

If they didn't steal from other movies, I would've probably been more attached. But they did. So I wasn't.

I don't think they should have "bended knee" to make references to try to make Trekkies feel comfy in the new movies. Abrams needs to just make the movies as best as he can and get his own fans and if the Trekkies accept him, so be it, if not, oh well.

 

[Adolfo]

If they didn't steal from other movies, I would've probably been more attached. But they did. So I wasn't.

I could see that...still it was a reboot and all has changed since Nero came along...If only Khan was played by a Ricardo M type of dude...oh man....Same with IM3...If only Mandarin was real like we all thought for the first half of the film...I enjoyed that role best in IM3

 

[Adolfo]

I don't think they should have "bended knee" to make references to try to make Trekkies feel comfy in the new movies. Abrams needs to just make the movies as best as he can and get his own fans and if the Trekkies accept him, so be it, if not, oh well.

Abrams did a damn good job IMHO

 

[Josette]

I bought the ending and thought the impact worked fine.

I saw it as being set up a bit differently though, and looked at in that way -while it's true that they didn't have the long history,

Spoiler

the way the scene plays out (and the Kirk and Spock relationship plays out in the entirety of the movie), it was about the realization and understanding for Spock that Kirk has become a friend, and that realization comes when Kirk is dying. It's what he just realizes he lost in that moment and what could have been that he thinks he'll never have.

Also, the actors have sold the characters and their relationship very, very well. It's a bit comparable with Fassbender and McAvoy in X-Men First Class - though ST is one up on the movie count. I thought the friendship between Xavier and Magneto was powerful, even if it was brief (1 movie). It didn't hurt that the actors had fantastic chemistry, and I also feel Pine and Quinto have great chemistry.

On Spock, I actually feel he reminded me more of original recipe Spock in this, for the majority of the film.

Spoiler

It isn't until Kirk dies that you see him lose it, and I had no problems believing that.

I have had no problems with a bit more of an emotional Spock in these movies, when I consider what the character's lost at a very young age - original Spock didn't lose his mother until he was older, and he didn't lose his entire planet and most of his people.

Kirk and Spock's -in a way - parallel journeys also added to the characters. In the first film there was a parallel drawn between the both being outsiders on their home worlds and

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both lost the supporitive mentor/parent figure in their life in the course of the two movies: Amanda, who supported Spock regardless of his choices, and Pike, who was definitely Kirk's father figure and who believed in him.

, setting up the Enterprise (and each other) as their family.

*Shrugs* I found the characters' development indvidually and together to be fairly strong in both movies.

I loved this movie. The characters and their interaction were awesome, and I loved Cumberbatch myself. He was an improvement over Nero.

I liked parts of Ironman 3 but I loved all of this film and would easily rate it higher.

 

[Adolfo]

I told my wife Cumberbatch may be the next Fassbender...I could see that guy play an Aliens Android too...LOL...Fine job as the villain in ST

 

[Adolfo]

I bought the ending and thought the impact worked fine.

I saw it as being set up a bit differently though, and looked at in that way -while it's true that they didn't have the long history,

Spoiler

the way the scene plays out (and the Kirk and Spock relationship plays out in the entirety of the movie), it was about the realization and understanding for Spock that Kirk has become a friend, and that realization comes when Kirk is dying. It's what he just realizes he lost in that moment and what could have been that he thinks he'll never have.

Also, the actors have sold the characters and their relationship very, very well. It's a bit comparable with Fassbender and McAvoy in X-Men First Class - though ST is one up on the movie count. I thought the friendship between Xavier and Magneto was powerful, even if it was brief (1 movie). It didn't hurt that the actors had fantastic chemistry, and I also feel Pine and Quinto have great chemistry.

On Spock, I actually feel he reminded me more of original recipe Spock in this, for the majority of the film.

Spoiler

It isn't until Kirk dies that you see him lose it, and I had no problems believing that.

I have had no problems with a bit more of an emotional Spock in these movies, when I consider what the character's lost at a very young age - original Spock didn't lose his mother until he was older, and he didn't lose his entire planet and most of his people.

Kirk and Spock's -in a way - parallel journeys also added to the characters. In the first film there was a parallel drawn between the both being outsiders on their home worlds and

Spoiler

both lost the supporitive mentor/parent figure in their life in the course of the two movies: Amanda, who supported Spock regardless of his choices, and Pike, who was definitely Kirk's father figure and who believed in him.

, setting up the Enterprise (and each other) as their family.

*Shrugs* I found the characters' development indvidually and together to be fairly strong in both movies.

I loved this movie. The characters and their interaction were awesome, and I loved Cumberbatch myself. He was an improvement over Nero.

I liked parts of Ironman 3 but I loved all of this film and would easily rate it higher.

agreed......

 

[CelticPredator]

Abrams did a damn good job IMHO

Abrams is the only reason why this movie is fun and watchable.

The writing is pretty bad. But Abrams knows how to direct.

 

[Adolfo]

Abrams is the only reason why this movie is fun and watchable.

The writing is pretty bad. But Abrams knows how to direct.

The writing was not so bad IMHO

 

[CelticPredator]

Ok. But it was pretty bad. I'm not talking just dialoge. I'm talking about everything.

Also, I know people keep saying "Well, they set up the end early on" and yes, they did...but I still saw that scene before. So it's really hard for me to care when I know the outcome.

 

[Josette]

I saw that scene before too, and I was still into this movie. But Milage varies...