James Cameron says he's found "Christ's Tomb" ... um sure...

[darth dypshyt]

There's an episode of M*A*S*H where Father Mulcahy says to Klinger: "I thought you were an atheist?" And Klinger replies: "I gave it up for Lent."

Ha! I just watched that very episode last night!

 

[Captain Faramir]

I don't think this will affect the faith of so many, Jen. True faith isn't shaken by little things like this, not if it's based on something solid.

How did Cameron get involved in this kind of thing anyway? Tired of sinking ships and fighting aliens, is he?

 

[PosterBoyKelly]

Well, I mean, I doubt many people faith will be shaken. Besides, there's tons of evidence the man existed, the question is always is he the son of God? I guess finding the body means no to some, because it means he never was resurrected, but to those who want to believe, it won't do anything. I have my own feelings on religion, I have no problems with any religion until some jag uses it to control people (inquisition, Bin Laden, Hitler, L. Ron Hubbard) but that's not religions fault.

I just think it's some huge publicity stunt for his career though and he's using it to further himself rather than prove something. Should be interesting to see unfold though and laugh back on in the future.

 

[abstractharmony]

I guess finding the body means no to some, because it means he never was resurrected

No it doesn't - it would only show that he didn't ascend.

Cameron himself has been quoted as saying something to the effect of 'this doesn't contradict his ressurection'. This body could be 50-60 years old.

I agree it will be interesting to see the documentary but how did they do a DNA test? Surely you have to have a definite DNA strand to match it with.

So it proves that jesus had DNA? That is the entire point of the gospels surely, that Jesus was fully man and fully god. Lest we forget he lived a comparatively normal life until he was about 30.

Nothing to see hear - move along...

Also, I believe that these coffins were found in 1980. Why would it be a twenty seven year wait and the fact that a director of James Cameron's standing to suddenly produce these coffins.

I'd say that it's probably one of Jesus' brothers (yes, he did have brothers - Mary had other children in the normal way with Joseph..) if there's any link at all.

Cameron is rubbing up the wrong people this time if he wants any kind of career in the US though...

 

[Khev]

Sounds like someone trying to capitalize off the success of "The Da Vinci Code" in pretty much the exact same manner. I imagine a similar course for those responsible; they'll get rich, a lot of people will be duped, and before long the ludicracies of the claims will be evident to all.

 

[screamingmetal]

Well, I mean, I doubt many people faith will be shaken. Besides, there's tons of evidence the man existed,

Actually, outside of the Bible there is no evidence (archaeological or other wise) that Jesus ever existed.

 

[screamingmetal]

This is very interesting. I'd imagine that the DNA comes from the Merovingian (SP?) line that still exists and is the basis of the word "sangrael" meaning Holy blood rather than being 2 words Holy grail. This is the basis of the science and facts behind the DaVinci Code also.

Cameron's a smart guy and this sounds like a great documentary.

I can't see that this has anything to do with scientology though - this idea makes much more sense than anything scientology believes.

I don't think it has anything to do with the Blood Grail, all of that is rubbish in my opinion. If that has anything to do with these findings then the findings are also rubbish (again my opinion).

 

[Darth Caedus]

Cameron isn't exactly an idiot. I think this will be interesting to see from a scientific aspect.

Thank God I'm an atheist.

I would normally agree with you, but I'm going to go with an agnostic. I don't believe in god, but if someone shows me proof I believe. I got both ends covered.

Why can't James Cameron just get on with it and start production on Titanic 2: Jack's Return ???

 

[Bullseye]

To me it seems that Hollywood is continuously trying to debunk Christianity. If they were (and thats a hell of a big "Were") to find the bones of Christ it would prove that there was no resurrection then there would be no Christian Churches. You would wonder who would benefit from such a revelation?: confused:

If it’s a matter of finding the tomb but not the bones fair enough. As a Catholic if find it offensive that they would try and prove Christ was not the son of God. I am sure Muslims would not take it kindly if Hollywood tried to prove Muhammad did not exist.

 

[Darthrazz]

I agree it will be interesting to see the documentary but how did they do a DNA test? Surely you have to have a definite DNA strand to match it with.


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Didn't the Shroud of Turin have blood on it? Maybe they were able to take DNA from there and it matched? Wouldn't that be insane??




The only problem is that scientific tests show the Shroud is from the 1400-1500's....and these bones are about 2000 years old. The figures don't add up.

Who knows? Cameron must have a TON of money , so he's defeinatley not out to make a buck.

 

[Agent0028]

Actually, outside of the Bible there is no evidence (archaeological or other wise) that Jesus ever existed.

Actually that's not quite accurate. The ancient Roman historian Josephus makes reference in one of his writings to a man named Jesus leading a cult down in Palestine. Or something along those lines. Its been awhile since I've been in ancient history so I could be a little off.

 

[Mookeylama]

No it doesn't - it would only show that he didn't ascend.

that's still a pretty huge deal.

as DekDave stated, this reminds me of the movie "The Body".

 

[Agent0028]

Oh, I'll weigh in with my opinion on it affecting people's faith... I would say that most people will view it as the false proohets of Revelation trying to discredit Christ.

 

[Darthrazz]

Actually that's not quite accurate. The ancient Roman historian Josephus makes reference in one of his writings to a man named Jesus leading a cult down in Palestine. Or something along those lines. Its been awhile since I've been in ancient history so I could be a little off.

You are correct.... Josephus did mention him in his writings. If I'm not mistaken he is also mentioned in the Quran.

 

[screamingmetal]

Actually that's not quite accurate. The ancient Roman historian Josephus makes reference in one of his writings to a man named Jesus leading a cult down in Palestine. Or something along those lines. Its been awhile since I've been in ancient history so I could be a little off.

Yeah, and I've heard quite a few scholars and archaeologists say that those writings are not from Josephus' hand and were fabricated later after he was long dead.

 

[screamingmetal]

There's a full article about this over at Newsweek:
https://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/17328478/site/newsweek/?GT1=9033

 

[MaulFan]

I don't get why the world seeks to screw around with religion, as long as it's not telling people to kill others or anything like that, what's wrong with having something to believe in that gets you through each day and gives you a sense of purpose, I think if he wanted to do this, he should just have just pursued it for his own learning and not spread it through the world.

 

[Agent0028]

Yeah, and I've heard quite a few scholars and archaeologists say that those writings are not from Josephus' hand and were fabricated later after he was long dead.

Ah, I didn't know that, interesting, thanks for the info, I'll have to keep that in mind.

 

[bwills]

Yeah, and I've heard quite a few scholars and archaeologists say that those writings are not from Josephus' hand and were fabricated later after he was long dead.

Come on man. There is no debate among any serious scholars (both secular and theological) that Christ actually lived. Josephus isn't the only writer to make mention of Christ. Tacitus, Thallus, and Pliny the Younger are just a few other historical writers who make mention of Christ. And it's also intellectually dishonest to discount the Bible as both the Old and New Testaments have proven to be historically accurate documents in countless other areas outside of Christ himself. Christ most certainly existed. The million dollar question for the non-Christian is was he really raised from the dead.

 

[DouglasMcc]

I just think it's some huge publicity stunt for his career though and he's using it to further himself rather than prove something. Should be interesting to see unfold though and laugh back on in the future.

And this is my biggest objection. I haven't been able to find anything online today about the supposed press conference. However, those articles stated he was throwing a giant media blitz to "exhibit the coffins of Jesus, Mary, and Mary Magdalene." Okay, I believe I am religious. I know I am not very popular with my Grandmother's Southern Baptist set. I believe in God, and I believe Jesus was his son. I think those are the most crucial tenets to my belief system. However, I have always refered to myself as a Scientific Christian ... i.e. I believe in the Big Bang and Evolution, I just think God was the big unknown that influenced it (no scientist has ever come up with a plausible explanation for what caused the Big Bang ... there was nothing and then BOOM! or to put it in different terms, "And he said, "let their be light".)

But back on topic. I am offended by them putting the supposed remains of one of the greatest people in the history of man on display like some Carnival Freak show ... to make a profit. Now, whether you believe he was the son of God or not, you have to agree he influenced Mankind. And we respect this by digging him up and putting him on display? How would you feel if someone went into your family cemetary and dug up your grandparents to display to make a buck? I can handle a scientific documentary. Doesn't mean I will agree, but I will go into it with an open mind. By this press release is a sacrilege. It kind of reminds me of what they did to Kong after they brought him back to NY. And, as we all know, that ended well