James Cameron's AVATAR discussion thread

[IrishJedi]

"Let's just call it out. Let's have a public discussion. That's what movies are supposed to do, you know, you can have a mindless entertainment film that doesn't affect anybody. I wasn't interested in that."

"I'm less interested in making money for the movie and more interested in saving the world that my children are going to inhabit.”

This is what makes Cameron a colossal d-bag. He actually believes his movie is more important than it actually is.

I mean, if you're going to try and make a movie to "save the world", at least make something original.

 

[Something Sexy]

This is what makes Cameron a colossal d-bag. He actually believes his movie is more important than it actually is.

I mean, if you're going to try and make a movie to "save the world", at least make something original.

If I was using newly reissued $1000 bills to jerk off with I would be the same way.

 

[IrishJedi]

If I was using newly reissued $1000 bills to jerk off with I would be the same way.

But he doesn't care about the money at all. He said so! Don't you believe Lord Cameron?

 

[Something Sexy]

But he doesn't care about the money at all. He said so! Don't you believe Lord Cameron?

Hes got a put a good face on but come on...that man loves money. I am sure he has a 1:1 statue of himself made out of gold and diamonds.

 

[ironwez20]

This is what makes Cameron a colossal d-bag. He actually believes his movie is more important than it actually is.

I mean, if you're going to try and make a movie to "save the world", at least make something original.

Yea , just curious, whats orignal to you. Star wars ?

 

[IrishJedi]

Yea , just curious, whats orignal to you. Star wars ?

It depends on what your definition of "original" is. Some defend AVATAR by saying that "nothing is truly original", but that's just a straw man argument. If you can remain relative, tons and tons of movies have been more original than AVATAR. Pretty much every other film in the Best Picture category this year, for starters. And on and on and on. And, yes, I'd say even STAR WARS was more original, especially for its time. It was certainly derivative in its own right, but at least not from obvious other media elements from its own era.

I'd like to ask Cameron exactly what it is about AVATAR (the film itself, not the manufactured phenomenon) that he thinks could help "save the world". There is not a single message in the film that is new and/or transcends anything we've already seen and heard a dozen times, and recently.

 

[nash]

I'd like to ask Cameron exactly what it is about AVATAR (the film itself, not the manufactured phenomenon) that he thinks could help "save the world". There is not a single message in the film that is new and/or transcends anything we've already seen and heard a dozen times, and recently.

duhhh hotshot, obviously if you can ride a huge red dragon you can save the world....

 

[IrishJedi]

duhhh hotshot, obviously if you can ride a huge red dragon you can save the world....

Someone needs to tell Cameron that he has a better shot at saving the world if he starts chasing the green dragon.

 

[darthviper107]

He could donate that $2 Billion to charity for a start--of course he wont

But I still find it funny that fund raisers aren't making ____ when movies constantly make like $100 million in a week.

 

[BadMoon]

He could donate that $2 Billion to charity for a start--of course he wont

But I still find it funny that fund raisers aren't making ____ when movies constantly make like $100 million in a week.

Why's that funny?

 

[Something Sexy]

He could donate that $2 Billion to charity for a start--of course he wont

But I still find it funny that fund raisers aren't making ____ when movies constantly make like $100 million in a week.

Probably because people are selfish and would rather spend the $10 to go to the movies then donate it.

 

[Khev]

I'd like to ask Cameron exactly what it is about AVATAR (the film itself, not the manufactured phenomenon) that he thinks could help "save the world". There is not a single message in the film that is new and/or transcends anything we've already seen and heard a dozen times, and recently.

And this is also why I think I'll be perfectly happy with my barebones/no-idiot-commentary Blu-Ray of the film next month. It is EXACTLY what the SW PT unsuccessfully aspired to be. And for that I have the utmost respect and gratitude toward Cameron. But my God at least Lucas knew that his movies were just fairy tale entertainment. Even the original SW, which really did change the world in a sense, was never celebrated as such by its creator.

I agree with Cameron that Avatar wasn't mindless entertainment but lets not get carried away here.

 

[darthviper107]

Why's that funny?

Take for instance--that big celebrity TV thing raising money for Haiti--it got $50 million

Avatar made several times that much that week.


Not that going to Avatar is bad, it's just that considering if JC wants to change the world, he could do a lot better than just putting a message in a film.

 

[Bamboota]

Found this Sculpture of Neytiri done by Spectre Studios:
https://www.spectre-studios.com/

Sorry if it has been posted before.

 

[The Ween]

Take for instance--that big celebrity TV thing raising money for Haiti--it got $50 million

Avatar made several times that much that week.


Not that going to Avatar is bad, it's just that considering if JC wants to change the world, he could do a lot better than just putting a message in a film.

That was $50 million for ONE fund raiser for Haiti! They got a ton more than that. My school, with only K and 1st grade, raised $130 just in spare change for a week. Believe me, people are giving for all kinds of causes. The US is the most generous country in the world.

 

[galactiboy]

Found this Sculpture of Neytiri done by Spectre Studios:
https://www.spectre-studios.com/

Sorry if it has been posted before.

Looks odd... like it was made out of Fimo.

 

[Something Sexy]

Not sure I like how they did the eyes on that one.

 

[CelticPredator]

I love Spectre's work. He's awesome. That's just his style.

 

[Khev]

My daughter is watching The Secret of Nimh right now. I think James Cameron has seen it too.

Check this out:

The hero (Jake Sully/Ms. Brisby the mouse) loses their other half (twin/spouse) right before the movie starts and are therefore thrust into the deceased family member's world, a world for which they are ill prepared.

The hero must prove themselves to a species twice as tall as them (Na'vi/rats of Nimh). Through expiriments of human scientists the Na'vi/rats can now speak English.

The hero manages to ride a chaotic flying beast (Banshee/Jeremy the crow) and has an early encounter with a thanator/monstrous cat that chases him/her through thick brush and roots until the hero escapes over the side of a waterfall.

Later on a giant harvester threatens to destroy Brisby's home/racial trees until two tiny heroes climb onto it and sabotage it.

The hero develops a special bond with one Na'vi/rat in particular (Neytiri/Justin).

A final battle ensues and before the movie ends the heroes must first defeat the giant command ship/cat called "Dragon."

 

[BadMoon]

No way! Ask any Avatard and they will tell you that it was completely original.