James Cameron's AVATAR discussion thread
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Mesa
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Re: I saw AVATAR in 3D!
If you've seen the movie, it's relevant, because the soldiers in avatar just blindly follow orders, even if it means murdering a race of beings. I wouldn't draw the same conclusion about real life and the noble causes I feel our our own military are trying to achieve. War is ugly, wether in real life or on big screen.
What kind of post is that...
If you've seen the movie, it's relevant, because the soldiers in avatar just blindly follow orders, even if it means murdering a race of beings. I wouldn't draw the same conclusion about real life and the noble causes I feel our our own military are trying to achieve. War is ugly, wether in real life or on big screen.
SixMillionDollarMan Guy
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Re: I saw AVATAR in 3D!
~Don't mind him, DannieJerkoff has always been a slapnut.
~Don't mind him, DannieJerkoff has always been a slapnut.
Mesa
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Mesa
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Re: I saw AVATAR in 3D!
You guys don't know Dannie very well. One of the coolest and nicest people I've met.
You guys don't know Dannie very well. One of the coolest and nicest people I've met.
cr0w
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Re: I saw AVATAR in 3D!
A moron with extensive familial history in and connections to the military. Also one that spent the first 20 years of his life eating, sleeping and breathing the military life, and one who's seen what it does to people when it's done sucking the life out of them. So you're welcome.
You are a ????ing moron! Thank you!
A moron with extensive familial history in and connections to the military. Also one that spent the first 20 years of his life eating, sleeping and breathing the military life, and one who's seen what it does to people when it's done sucking the life out of them. So you're welcome.
SpenK
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Yes I knew I have heard what I heard during the tree scene correct.... Enemy at the gates is my favorite sniper movie ... And have seen it plenty of times so when I heard the score during that scene it sounds just like enemy at the gates...
Mesa
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Re: I saw AVATAR in 3D!
Thank you, I was thinking the same thing. Funny how these people against the military don't realize that it's because of them that we are a free people and don't live under a dictatorship. I also have several ex soldiers who report to me and all have families and are generally very good people who aren't the killing machines being portrayed in this devolving thread. The only exception would be a marine, and he did fit that brainwashed stereo type, but I think he was like that before he entered. There's a few bad people in any group and in the military, if you're psycho, you are likely to be kicked out.
Edit: unless you're a Muslim radical on jihad, then it's too politically incorrect to get kicked out
You are a ????ing moron! Thank you!
Thank you, I was thinking the same thing. Funny how these people against the military don't realize that it's because of them that we are a free people and don't live under a dictatorship. I also have several ex soldiers who report to me and all have families and are generally very good people who aren't the killing machines being portrayed in this devolving thread. The only exception would be a marine, and he did fit that brainwashed stereo type, but I think he was like that before he entered. There's a few bad people in any group and in the military, if you're psycho, you are likely to be kicked out.
Edit: unless you're a Muslim radical on jihad, then it's too politically incorrect to get kicked out
cr0w
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Re: I saw AVATAR in 3D!
I never once said I was against the military. I'm not against the soldiers who enlist because they legitimately want to help make the world a better place.
I'm against the upper echelon of the military and the government who views soldiers as expendable grunts and, when they're lucky to make it home from a war they sent them to, they treat them as fourth-class citizens and refuse to give them the help or care they need as a result of the situations they were put in by their superiors. Look at the denial and subsequent acknowledgment, 40 years after the fact, of the effects of Agent Orange on the soldiers and natives that were exposed to it during the Vietnam War. Look at the denial of and outright refusal to aid those who are affected by Gulf War Syndrome. Look at the denial and ridicule posed toward those who had PTSD because of their experiences, only to subsequently have it be acknowledged long after many, many people had killed themselves over something the military refused to admit existed.
I am 100% behind the soldiers who sign up to protect and serve their country. It's the people who manipulate and subsequently discard those who gave everything they had for them that I take issue with. How many veterans are now homeless because they came back to nothing when their country called on them? How many are sick yet receive little to no V.A. benefits because the bureaucrats refuse to spend 5 more minutes on paperwork? How about my brother's dad, who was drafted at 18 into Vietnam despite the fact that he couldn't read, did 3 tours in the bush, and had to kill a 5 year old Vietnamese child who was booby-trapped by the Viet Cong one day when he made his daily visit to the soldiers' camp because they would give him candy? He's lucky to see $400 a month from the government, despite the fact that they destroyed his life before it even began. Or my father, whose alcoholism was ignored and oftentimes encouraged by his superior officers because they didn't give a damn so long as he kept buying them rounds, and his domestic violence against my mother and I swept under the rug by his COs until they couldn't cover up what I had to do to him when 18 years of it boiled over?
There's a serious problem in the military, and the soldiers are the only good thing about the entire system. You want to call me a moron? Fine. But I suggest you educate yourself beyond what you see in Kid Rock/Dale Earnhardt Jr. National Guard commercials.
My part in this discussion's over.
I never once said I was against the military. I'm not against the soldiers who enlist because they legitimately want to help make the world a better place.
I'm against the upper echelon of the military and the government who views soldiers as expendable grunts and, when they're lucky to make it home from a war they sent them to, they treat them as fourth-class citizens and refuse to give them the help or care they need as a result of the situations they were put in by their superiors. Look at the denial and subsequent acknowledgment, 40 years after the fact, of the effects of Agent Orange on the soldiers and natives that were exposed to it during the Vietnam War. Look at the denial of and outright refusal to aid those who are affected by Gulf War Syndrome. Look at the denial and ridicule posed toward those who had PTSD because of their experiences, only to subsequently have it be acknowledged long after many, many people had killed themselves over something the military refused to admit existed.
I am 100% behind the soldiers who sign up to protect and serve their country. It's the people who manipulate and subsequently discard those who gave everything they had for them that I take issue with. How many veterans are now homeless because they came back to nothing when their country called on them? How many are sick yet receive little to no V.A. benefits because the bureaucrats refuse to spend 5 more minutes on paperwork? How about my brother's dad, who was drafted at 18 into Vietnam despite the fact that he couldn't read, did 3 tours in the bush, and had to kill a 5 year old Vietnamese child who was booby-trapped by the Viet Cong one day when he made his daily visit to the soldiers' camp because they would give him candy? He's lucky to see $400 a month from the government, despite the fact that they destroyed his life before it even began. Or my father, whose alcoholism was ignored and oftentimes encouraged by his superior officers because they didn't give a damn so long as he kept buying them rounds, and his domestic violence against my mother and I swept under the rug by his COs until they couldn't cover up what I had to do to him when 18 years of it boiled over?
There's a serious problem in the military, and the soldiers are the only good thing about the entire system. You want to call me a moron? Fine. But I suggest you educate yourself beyond what you see in Kid Rock/Dale Earnhardt Jr. National Guard commercials.
My part in this discussion's over.
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SpenK
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Avatar (Real 3D)...... Special Effects Out of This world!!!!......Immersive environments.. Pandora was Amazing (the connection between all species, just beautiful thinking)!!!......Creatures Wow... Vehicles Bad Ass......now the story well good (not fully original)... if you put in a blender Some Dances with wolfs, last samurai, some Pocahontas sprinkles.... Well you get the point.....as a Fx a 10, Action Spectacle is a Solid 9... The story is a Good 7..... For me was a Very great time at the movies ..... 8/10....
Go see it Kids.....
Avatar (Real 3D)...... Special Effects Out of This world!!!!......Immersive environments.. Pandora was Amazing (the connection between all species
, just beautiful thinking)!!!......Creatures Wow... Vehicles Bad Ass......now the story well good (not fully original)... if you put in a blender Some Dances with wolfs, last samurai, some Pocahontas sprinkles.... Well you get the point.....as a Fx a 10, Action Spectacle is a Solid 9... The story is a Good 7..... For me was a Very great time at the movies ..... 8/10.... Go see it Kids.....
Voorhees27
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Re: I saw AVATAR in 3D!
Do you even know what the ???? "Jihad" means you redneck ????head?
Do you even know what the ???? "Jihad" means you redneck ????head?
Mesa
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Re: I saw AVATAR in 3D!
I think it has something to do with yelling "Allah ackbar" as you gun down unarmed people at Fort Hood.
I think it has something to do with yelling "Allah ackbar" as you gun down unarmed people at Fort Hood.
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Re: I saw AVATAR in 3D!
You are talking a more meaningfull cause here WWII, where we all had to unite as one to fight the Nazi's, they had plans for world domination.I would have fought them but, todays war? no sir..i am not signing up to drive over a IED and thats it for me..F' that!, i could see if Iraq was ACTUALLY a threat to the world but, they never were..Hell, Iran is more of a threat! North Korea FFS!.
That being said though, no disrespect to the men and women from America,Canada,UK,Poland,Italy etc.. in the service stationed in the middle east. You really got some huge balls to be trying to make a difference over there in that big mess.I also feel for the families of both the soldiers and the innocent civilians that die in war.
You are talking a more meaningfull cause here WWII, where we all had to unite as one to fight the Nazi's, they had plans for world domination.I would have fought them but, todays war? no sir..i am not signing up to drive over a IED and thats it for me..F' that!, i could see if Iraq was ACTUALLY a threat to the world but, they never were..Hell, Iran is more of a threat! North Korea FFS!.
That being said though, no disrespect to the men and women from America,Canada,UK,Poland,Italy etc.. in the service stationed in the middle east. You really got some huge balls to be trying to make a difference over there in that big mess.I also feel for the families of both the soldiers and the innocent civilians that die in war.
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Voorhees27
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Re: I saw AVATAR in 3D!
That was so easy. Congrats. Man i'm good at bringing out the Hitler in people. I need a pat on my back.
That was so easy. Congrats. Man i'm good at bringing out the Hitler in people. I need a pat on my back.
uscmhicks
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Re: I saw AVATAR in 3D!
thenammagazine
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Re: I saw AVATAR in 3D!
I would say this post is exactly what he meant by ignorant. Your BS belongs in the sandbox.
I would say this post is exactly what he meant by ignorant. Your BS belongs in the sandbox.
Mesa
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Re: I saw AVATAR in 3D!
Whatever point you're trying to make here is lost on me. Sorry, my redneck inbred brain just can't comprehend defending the actions of a terrorist.
two people I work with have served in Iraq and are very proud of the advances they've made in that country. It will still take more time, more than the public is willing to wait, but according to their first hand perspective, the situation over there was improved by removing Sadam and bringing about free elections. Again, this is what I've been told by people that have been there and seen how bad the situation was when first setting foot on Iraqi soil. You won't hear this sort of positive feedback about the advances made in Iraq on the mainstream media, so don't only believe the perspective that the "news" reports.
Whatever point you're trying to make here is lost on me. Sorry, my redneck inbred brain just can't comprehend defending the actions of a terrorist.
two people I work with have served in Iraq and are very proud of the advances they've made in that country. It will still take more time, more than the public is willing to wait, but according to their first hand perspective, the situation over there was improved by removing Sadam and bringing about free elections. Again, this is what I've been told by people that have been there and seen how bad the situation was when first setting foot on Iraqi soil. You won't hear this sort of positive feedback about the advances made in Iraq on the mainstream media, so don't only believe the perspective that the "news" reports.
Voorhees27
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Re: I saw AVATAR in 3D!
I find that your choice of tone in this post is ignorant.
I find that your choice of tone in this post is ignorant.
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