Jazzinc Dioramas 1/12 1989 Batwing

[sj2106]

But with InArt doing what look like very high quality figures in 1/12 there could be more demand for 1/12 vehicles.

I'd love batmobiles in 1/6 but just don't have the space.

 

[Rondesmo]

I would say I don't agree with the poll having the batwing as the more popular choice over the batmobile. You're asking a group with mostly 1/6 collectors what 1/12 product will sell more. Sure there is crossover between collectors such as myself and I have more 1/12 stuff by a big number compared to 1/6. However, I would have never voted for the batwing over the batmobile. I feel most people that voted for the batwing in that closed group are just 1/6 collectors that can't find a way to display the a 1/6 batwing had they bought one.

This is exactly why Joost begun with the Batwing over the Batmobile.
Most of the 1/6 collectors did not have the funds and space for a 1/6 Batwing.
The 1/12 version is the perfect answer.

Concerning the Batmobile, the 1/6 audience have already had the choice between the entry and premium offers. Everyone is now pleased.
And as you said an big range of the 1/12 community is not willing to pay the premium price.

The 1/12 batwing was the logical choice IMO.

 

[Bleah]

This is exactly why Joost begun with the Batwing over the Batmobile.
Most of the 1/6 collectors did not have the funds and space for a 1/6 Batwing.
The 1/12 version is the perfect answer.

You're missing the point. This needs support that's why it is going through kickstarter. A better audience to ask for a 1/12 scale option is a bunch of 1/12 collectors and not a group of 1/6 collectors that couldn't buy the 1/6 version hoping 1/12 collectors to tag along to meet the numbers. It's like needing 100 orders, asking the 1/6 people with ten 1/6 collectors winning the vote and hoping ninety 1/12 would jump in instead of asking a dedicated 1/12 group and 100 1/12 collectors voting for the preferred choice.

And as you said an big range of the 1/12 community is not willing to pay the premium price.

Exactly. Didn't the batwing cost more than the batmobile even with all the bells and whistles of the batmobile outnumbering the batwing? So logically, a 1/12 batmobile should cost less than a 1/12 batwing. Also, I don't think every feature of the batmobile needs to be or can work on a smaller 1/12 version which can further drive the cost down.

The 1/12 batwing was the logical choice IMO.

I know you are big Joost defender but to this, i would even say - huh?

Either way, I think there's a good chance of this still getting funded with enough advertising to the 1/12 crowd and hitting the right price but to say it was logical because in terms of numbers based on a few 1/6 collectors that passed on the 1/6 version from a small closed group and not a dedicated 1/12 crowd plus mentioning premium pricing while ignoring that the 1/6 batwing cost more than the 1/6 batmobile is illogical.

 

[Captain Clown]

It’s insane that we still don’t have a truly “great” 1/12 Burton Batmobile. The McFarlane just looks too wonky. A shame Spinmaster didn’t make one alongside their huge Batwing.

 

[Rondesmo]

I know you are big Joost defender but to this, i would even say - huh?

I'm not sure I can be portrayed as a big Joost’s defender given that I've only purchased one of his products.
But I admit to preaching for my parish since I have been waiting for a good 1/12 batwing for a long time...

 

[Rondesmo]

To go further in my thoughts, I felt back on this pic.

It’s not a fake. I’m remember exactly when the guy posted it on the FB Jazzinc group page last year.

Even if the guy is not tall, it perfectly shows you how this thing is massive and almost impossible to display properly even for the used 1/6 community.
Add to this the fact that visually, it literally «cannibalize » all the rest of your collection IMO.

Every time I look at this pic, I know why I never PO it even if I’m a huge Batman 89 fan and I say to myself that a 1/12 version is more than enough.

This is why I understand Joost’s decision to prioritize this over the Batmobile in 1/12 scale.
The audience is larger IMO.

But @capitain Clown you’re right. The 1/12 community deserves a great 1/12 Burton mobile.

 

[Dave_W]

But @capitain Clown you’re right. People who dont have room for 1/6 vehicles deserve a great 1/12 Burton mobile.

FTFY

 

[Rondesmo]

It’s not what I meant.

1/12 scale is a true choice. It’s not necessarily a budget or space issue, you can simply prefer the 1/12 scale over 1/6.
You know I’m not a rich guy. This is why the Batmobile is and will be my only 1/6 vehicle purchase.