Joss Whedon's Dollhouse

[BuffyGirl]

The thing is though. If we're losing viewers as much as we are, about half a mill per episode, then even if Joss's episodes are spectacular, what is that really going to do for us?

 

[TheObsoleteMan]

I really hope the show makes it to Joss's episodes (6 and forward), the good ones. Cause if they don't get better soon, this show is going in the can. It's already bad enough as it is, but if his episodes don't produce, this show is dead.

Still the questions remains, why the ^^^^ did he go back to Fox??!!!!!

Because if this show fails, I will put most of the blame on Joss, not Fox. Fox is just doing what it does, but Joss should have known better after Firefly. Superiorly stupid decision on his part.

He's probably got some sort of development deal with them and is under contract.

 

[Sick Boy 82]

The thing is though. If we're losing viewers as much as we are, about half a mill per episode, then even if Joss's episodes are spectacular, what is that really going to do for us?

Nothing, this will end up getting cancelled before we even see #6 if the trend keeps up. To bad.

I guess we'll have to wait for it on Blu-Ray like Firelfy on DVD to get fixed and get the full thing.

 

[Sick Boy 82]

Yeah, the falling viewers tell it all:

1. "Ghost" 4.72 mil
2. "The Target" 4.22 mil
3. "Stage Fright" 4.13 mil
4. "Gray Hour" 3.54 mil

 

[TheObsoleteMan]

Unfortunately, they seemed to think that simply having Eliza Dusku in skimpy outfits would be enough to pull in viewers, as opposed to interesting plots. That gimmick worked with Summer Glau and Sarah Connor Chronicles for a while, but that show had the Terminator fanbase to draw from and even they seem to be tiring of it. Without interesting writing, eye candy is only going to get you so far.

 

[Sick Boy 82]

Yeah, that's almost what made me not even want to watch the show from the very beginning of the first episode. It was all slutty Eliza (yes, as a guy I liked this, but as an intellectual I need more) and no story.

I MISS Joss's story telling so much!! And the humor that runs through his shows!! This show has almost none of that. Makes for a sad Zack.

 

[Saya]

If they could get into the Alpha storyline more maybe it would be better. I would like it if I could get more invested in more of the characters, not just echo. Buffy and Firefly had a group of people you watched and cared what happened to each week. more than one story to follow. It was interesting. I think that would be great for this show. Initialy I thought they were going to do that with this show. Go into all the adventures of the dollhouse "actives" or whatever they call them. That would make it much more fun to watch.

 

[Darklord Dave]

They are getting into the Alpha story line way too much I think - it's been a part of every single episode. I'm expecting they wrap it up by 6.

And there's a lot of stuff going on with the how Echo is developing her own personality. A couple of episodes haven't been stellar, but it's the time slot, not the quality of the show that is killing it.

Anyone see Big Bang Theory with Summer Glau (as herself)? - I can see almost everyone on this board acting that way around her...

 

[Sick Boy 82]

Anyone see Big Bang Theory with Summer Glau (as herself)? - I can see almost everyone on this board acting that way around her...

Haha, yeah that was funny. TO bad for Leonard in the end. lulz

 

[Chapter 2099]

They are getting into the Alpha story line way too much I think - it's been a part of every single episode. I'm expecting they wrap it up by 6.

I think we'll be seeing the Alpha storyline for a lot longer than that. I think Joss is just getting warmed up. I'm expecting that once Alpha is revealed that we'll see quite a bit of him....or her....or it.

 

[Saya]

I agree. I still think that there needs to be more focus on the other characters too. It will make it more interesting.

 

[Sick Boy 82]

Pretty sure Alpha is a male.

But yeah, I think bringing out his story and how he kept his memory and everything he can do will play into the story further. Probably with Echo and him and Sierra and maybe Victor breaking out and taking down the company. Or whater.

 

[Kabukiman]

Alpha is the detective dude. I'm almost positive.

 

[Sick Boy 82]

Na, no way. That would be way to easy for the show. While it would be cool, I would probably stop watching the show if the already weak story went that way.

It was cool with Victor, but would be dumb with Ballard. Especially since the company is trying to steer Ballard away from them with Victor.

 

[Saya]

Didn't they say Alpha was one of them (like echo) but they made him with a fall back program with assasin skills or what not. And he went all crazy. So that would rule out the detective. Still don't get why he killed everyone but echo in the flashbacks..?? She just sat there, he could have easily. ?? I'm sure all will be revealed soon.

 

[Darklord Dave]

Didn't they say Alpha was one of them (like echo) but they made him with a fall back program with assasin skills or what not. And he went all crazy. So that would rule out the detective. Still don't get why he killed everyone but echo in the flashbacks..?? She just sat there, he could have easily. ?? I'm sure all will be revealed soon.

Obviously there's a connection between Alpha and Echo - he's obsessed with her and trying to get her off balance or to composite like he did. He would never kill her.

 

[Saya]

Why would he wipe her program in the last ep? What does that gain him? If he doesn't want to hurt her...I don't know, I'm not convinced that he isn't a danger to her completely. He is definately obsessed, but that can lead to murder.

 

[Darth Rage]

They are getting into the Alpha story line way too much I think - it's been a part of every single episode. I'm expecting they wrap it up by 6.

I'd be surprised if they wrap Alpha up by episode 6, unless ep 6 is completely devoted to nothing but Alpha. I see him as more of the Whedon "big bad" of Buffy days. He'll pop up more and more each episode and most of the episodes after 6 (the ones Eliza said Joss wrote) will be his storyline.

Still watching with crossed fingers that we at least get a full season.

 

[hairlesswookiee]

yeah i hope it doesn't turn out to be Helo. that would be way too easy.

 

[Kabukiman]

If detective dude isn't Alpha, then perhaps Alpha has dolls of his own, and detective dude is one of 'em.