Jurassic World (SPOILERS!)

[Solidus]

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Meh... I don't like what has happened to the raptors in this. They should have retained their status as horror creatures from JP1 and TLW, but now they're trained pets that take direction from Chris Pratt? Ugh...

It is crazy to compare a raptor to an alligator but they weren't nearly as smart as dogs, a raptor's intelligence is equivalent to a modern day ostrich, as far as scientists know...

You really need to stop drawing real world comparisons of dinosaurs to the movie monsters in Jurassic Park . The raptors from the JP universe are are highly intelligent creatures, and from JP3, it was mentioned that they would have become the dominant species if they didn't become extinct.

And there's always a large degree of danger when dealing with wild animals. Trainers get injured all the time, and it's not because the animals lack intelligence. It's a predatory animal's instinct which makes it deadly, and can set it off at any moment.

 

[Nuka Cola Kidd]

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Meh... I don't like what has happened to the raptors in this. They should have retained their status as horror creatures from JP1 and TLW, but now they're trained pets that take direction from Chris Pratt? Ugh...

It's only 3. No telling if there will be more munching on some visitors.

 

[Xenoburger_]

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It's only 3. No telling if there will be more munching on some visitors.

 

[somiranger]

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So if they are not tamed/trained (gosh they are basically the same thing! ) than they probably share a same goal which is why the raptors are trying to help the protagonist. Than there needs to be a very good reason as to why the raptors feel this way (I'm guessing the goal is to kill the IREX).

The only explanation that I can think of is that the IREX is destroying their ecosystem and it's interfering with their territory.

If this is the case it is still ridiculous because that would mean that raptors are so smart that they are able to not only understands human gestures but can also interact with them instantly. (Yes I do know that animals can interact and understand human behavior but it takes time.) It looks as though the raptor understands immediately and this is not close to ANY modern day animal, it's more closer to Caesar from "Rise of the planet of the apes"

Still... I'm ok with the concept as long as it feels natural. I just hope that the movie is more light hearted like star wars or Iron man than

like Dark knight Rises.

 

[Snake Plissken]

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Meh... I don't like what has happened to the raptors in this. They should have retained their status as horror creatures from JP1 and TLW, but now they're trained pets that take direction from Chris Pratt? Ugh...



You really need to stop drawing real world comparisons of dinosaurs to the movie monsters in Jurassic Park . The raptors from the JP universe are are highly intelligent creatures, and from JP3, it was mentioned that they would have become the dominant species if they didn't become extinct.

And there's always a large degree of danger when dealing with wild animals. Trainers get injured all the time, and it's not because the animals lack intelligence. It's a predatory animal's instinct which makes it deadly, and can set it off at any moment.

 

[BugStomper]

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That’s one thing I loved about the trailer and kind of what won me over on the raptor thing. They still look dangerous and menacing. They could lose me if/when they’re used as hound dogs to hunt down the new Rex.

Also I laughed harder than I should have at this. Spoiler tag for harsh language

Spoiler

 

[JAWS]

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More over the top than cloning dinosaurs?

Do these look domesticated to you?

They're not tamed. They're trained.

People train dangerous animals in real life. They're still dangerous to work with.

They defiantly seem to be the "good guys" Star Lord mentions using everything they got to stop the new predator and then it shows Raptors Running along side their master... Not attacking him.

Surprisingly I don't hate this...

 

[Rotfish]

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Excited as hell for this. I can buy the whole "trying to coexist" idea for the raptor bros and the "confused, crazy genetically-modified animal" idea for the I-Rex. Bring on the next full-length trailer and, of course, the movie.



The only thing I'm worried about is this:

This isn't CG. So unless they add CG elements to doctor up the image (I really hope they do), this is what we'll see in the film. They did practical effects so much better in '93, it's tragic. Stegosaurus head looks like a McDonald's happy meal puppet.

 

[jye4ever]

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I'll wait for the IRex-s.

 

[agen_kolar]

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The only thing I'm worried about is this:

This isn't CG. So unless they add CG elements to doctor up the image (I really hope they do), this is what we'll see in the film. They did practical effects so much better in '93, it's tragic. Stegosaurus head looks like a McDonald's happy meal puppet.

This is an Apatosaurus, not Stegosaurus! Here's the CG model for the film.



I'm surprised to hear someone say they'd rather have CG than a practical effect, when CG seems to be so many people's beef with movies nowadays, and people's beef with the latter two Jurassic Park films. The first was full of practical effects, the others less so. I think the extent of the animatronic Apatosaurus head will determine how realistic it will come across in the film. We only saw like half of a second of it in the trailer. I want to see more. I will admit I'm not a fan of the blue eye.

 

[somiranger]

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Excited as hell for this. I can buy the whole "trying to coexist" idea for the raptor bros and the "confused, crazy genetically-modified animal" idea for the I-Rex. Bring on the next full-length trailer and, of course, the movie.



The only thing I'm worried about is this:

This isn't CG. So unless they add CG elements to doctor up the image (I really hope they do), this is what we'll see in the film. They did practical effects so much better in '93, it's tragic. Stegosaurus head looks like a McDonald's happy meal puppet.

I agree it looks like Boo Boo

 

[YoNoSe]

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Looks cool to me.

 

[somiranger]

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The movement is slightly robotic but the sculpt and the paint is phenomenal.

 

[Xenoburger_]

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Only thing that looks bad on the Stegosaurus is the eye IMO.

 

[somiranger]

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I think it also has to do with the contrast. The image looks too sharp and it makes it look more like a CG.

 

[Chapter 2099]

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This is an Apatosaurus, not Stegosaurus! Here's the CG model for the film.

View attachment 163390

I'm surprised to hear someone say they'd rather have CG than a practical effect, when CG seems to be so many people's beef with movies nowadays, and people's beef with the latter two Jurassic Park films. The first was full of practical effects, the others less so. I think the extent of the animatronic Apatosaurus head will determine how realistic it will come across in the film. We only saw like half of a second of it in the trailer. I want to see more. I will admit I'm not a fan of the blue eye.

Couldn't agree with you more. More practical effects is my vote. I'm not saying solely practical effects, but I think that's what gave the first its edge and if done right, wow. Just the first one.

 

[Rotfish]

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This is an Apatosaurus, not Stegosaurus! Here's the CG model for the film.

View attachment 163390

I'm surprised to hear someone say they'd rather have CG than a practical effect, when CG seems to be so many people's beef with movies nowadays, and people's beef with the latter two Jurassic Park films. The first was full of practical effects, the others less so. I think the extent of the animatronic Apatosaurus head will determine how realistic it will come across in the film. We only saw like half of a second of it in the trailer. I want to see more. I will admit I'm not a fan of the blue eye.

I will always push for practical effects in a film, provided they look good. But when the Trike in the first film looked more convincing than this -- Apatosaurus, my bad -- and it's been 22 years, I'll take some CGI to iron out the kinks. The sculpt details in some areas seem a little soft and yes, the eye looks ridiculously blue.

For clarity's sake, it's not that the high contrast of the image makes the thing look like CG. It's that it's obvious it's a puppet. The sculpt details need to be sharpened. It could also use some weathering. Some wear and tear. Right now it looks freshly painted and released from the FX shop.

This is how it's done.

The movement is slightly robotic but the sculpt and the paint is phenomenal.

Exactly. Convincing to this day. It's got drool, grime, dirt and dust, everything it needs to ground it in this world. Plus more variations in skin tone. Blemishes, highlights, lowlights, etc. And as for sculpt, the details aren't soft and rubbery.

 

[Buttmunch]

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Only thing that looks bad on the Stegosaurus is the eye IMO.

Agreed, they eye looks fake. The rest is decent, but nowhere near Stan Winston quality of the first film. I think the artistry and care they took with the first film on the dino puppets is really what sold the dinosaurs as looking so real. They used CGI when it was the only practical option (chases mostly) and used the puppets everywhere else. Its a shame practical effects have become a lost art to CGI. CGI is great when used properly, it but shouldn't be a primary effect. It should be used to enhance a practical effect.

The fact they are even using practical effects is great, but its too bad, that one at least, isn't as great as some of the work in the earlier films.

 

[somiranger]

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Exactly. Convincing to this day. It's got drool, grime, dirt and dust, everything it needs to ground it in this world. Plus more variations in skin tone. Blemishes, highlights, lowlights, etc. And as for sculpt, the details aren't soft and rubbery.

You may be right.. I used photoshop to completely erase the contrast and also covered the eyes but it still looks fake as hell. (It's not that bad but it's no where near as good as the trike. It's a shame because it looks as though they were trying to replicate the exact same scene but made it worse)

PS. This picture is just a joke I only spent like 30 second on it.

 

[Henry Morgan*]

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You really need to stop drawing real world comparisons of dinosaurs to the movie monsters in Jurassic Park

What I said makes sense when you see who I was talking too (Mike M) Plissken used real world logic when he was talking about this:

"I can see training them young, but when their adults... I can't see it sticking very much"

Why think like that? does that even matter? we are talking about a movie so its irrelevant, but who cares! we are just having a conversation, Mike M said what he thinks about his comment and so did I, nothing wrong with that

Excited as hell for this. I can buy the whole "trying to coexist" idea for the raptor bros and the "confused, crazy genetically-modified animal" idea for the I-Rex. Bring on the next full-length trailer and, of course, the movie.



The only thing I'm worried about is this:

This isn't CG. So unless they add CG elements to doctor up the image (I really hope they do), this is what we'll see in the film. They did practical effects so much better in '93, it's tragic. Stegosaurus head looks like a McDonald's happy meal puppet.

I agree... it doesn't look very good