Jurassic World (SPOILERS!)
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My only complaint is the Raptors didn't talk in Owen's dreams....
Saw it again in 4D this time. Was going great until about a third of the movie in the sync for the 4D stopped lining up with the movie and we had the chairs shaking and mist spraying in our face when on screen they were in the control room and nothing happening. Then during big dinosaur scenes or helicopter rides nothing was happening with the 4D. Completely ruined the experience.
F'n Curacao...
F'n Curacao...
Irvy
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There's no way this was better than lost world. JP3 definitely.
jye4ever
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I do not see the appeal of being in a moving chair and being sprayed in the face while watching a movie. 
Eh it was a bunch of stuff, fans blowing with wind, compressed air on your legs, etc. Fun at first when it made sense.
jye4ever
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Much better than TLW for me.
You missed my point which was in answer to someone who said JP1 was much more cheesy than JW.
jye4ever
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Jurassic World retained its #1 position at the weekend box office with a less-than-expected -51% decline for a $102M take. Inside Out outperformed even the most optimistic of estimates and banked $91M, making it Pixar's 2nd largest opening weekend, behind Toy Story 3, which made $110.3M in 2010.
What is startling about Inside Out's weekend is that it is the highest opening weekend ever for an original property (that is to say one that is not a sequel or a non-sourced work), passing 2009's Avatar, which made $77M. To be fair, however, James Cameron's sci-fi adventure, took in a higher per-screen average, $23,313 in 3,452 screens, on almost 500 fewer screens (Inside Out PSA was $23,061 per, in 3,946 venues).
Jurassic World continued its global dominance. It looks to be passing the $400M domestic mark by Monday, sitting at an estimated $398.2M today.
Add that to World's overseas take of $583.1M and the film sits with an estimated worldwide cume of $981.3M million in global grosses. The film has opened in all territories save Japan where Universal says it's now opening August 5th.
You also can't dismiss that domestic take. World's $102M is the second best second week in history, only behind Marvel's The Avengers which made $103.1M in its second week.
The fact that Wor-Gar enjoyed this movie makes it stand out even more.
What is startling about Inside Out's weekend is that it is the highest opening weekend ever for an original property (that is to say one that is not a sequel or a non-sourced work), passing 2009's Avatar, which made $77M. To be fair, however, James Cameron's sci-fi adventure, took in a higher per-screen average, $23,313 in 3,452 screens, on almost 500 fewer screens (Inside Out PSA was $23,061 per, in 3,946 venues).
Jurassic World continued its global dominance. It looks to be passing the $400M domestic mark by Monday, sitting at an estimated $398.2M today.
Add that to World's overseas take of $583.1M and the film sits with an estimated worldwide cume of $981.3M million in global grosses. The film has opened in all territories save Japan where Universal says it's now opening August 5th.
You also can't dismiss that domestic take. World's $102M is the second best second week in history, only behind Marvel's The Avengers which made $103.1M in its second week.
The fact that Wor-Gar enjoyed this movie makes it stand out even more.
Agreed.
That, and the weekend isn't over yet -- might still beat Avengers 2nd wknd. They did this last week too until the true numbers came in from Sunday.
jye4ever
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You caught that, goooooood.
Yeah, very close to call it now, 1 million difference, I think it will beat it.
Yeah, very close to call it now, 1 million difference, I think it will beat it.
Agreed.
That, and the weekend isn't over yet -- might still beat Avengers 2nd wknd.
Yep, my late night Sunday viewing alone last week singlehandedly pushed JW past Avengers and I aim to do the same when I take my kids again today for our little Father's Day movie day.
How often you're in the mood for something or a film's "rewatchability" can indeed be a way someone ranks one film over another but I wouldn't personally. I've watched ROTJ countless times compared to say, FOTR, but part of the reason that I'm not "in the mood" to watch FOTR every other week is because I know I'd be doing the film a disservice if I allowed it to be diminished through excessive viewings. Maybe that's how you are with T2 vs. T1, of course I couldn't say.
But with regard to JP/JW and T1/T2 of course there are many similarities and points of comparison, heck let's take probably the most defining aspects of each respective story: Each is an offshoot of "Westworld" in that humans engineer constructs that end up turning on them and hunting them down and killing them. The central conflict in all three stories, (Westworld/Terminator/Jurassic) involve either a single or small group of people being hunted by constructs from "another era of time" whether it be the past (cowboy/dinosaurs) or future (T-800/T-1000.)
In a biography published in the 90's Cameron stated that he really liked that element of Westworld but that he felt let down by the movie when Yul Brenner's face came off and just revealed some basic gears and pistons that in no way could have been responsible for all of the murderous cowboy's expressions. He stated that because of that the "definitive robot story" had yet to be told.
So we go from Westworld (murderous robots in a theme park) to Terminator and Jurassic Park with each new franchise tackling one single element. Terminator of course taking on the "humans create robots that hunt us down" and Jurassic doing the "humans create theme park attractions that hunt us down." Put 'em together you have Westworld, singularly, you have, well, you know.
Then each series gives us a sequel where the human construct that was a main bad guy in the first film becomes a protector of sorts. And this is where *I* think JW succeeded in spades over T2. In Jurassic World the Raptors, while helpful in a couple key moments, never lose the "yeah, well, they just do what they do" aspect of their carnivorous nature. They never become non-carnivorous or non-lethal. Or at the very least the film was never too shy to show us that lethality in full effect.
In Terminator 2 there's always some massively convenient moment that just sort of "happens" to prevent Arnold from killing anyone *before* John gives him his new "rule" if you want to call it that. Whether it being the 0.0% casualties in the biker bar or John happening to be able to shove aside a T-800's arm before it blows a guys mulleted head off. That kind of "tameness" (in an R-rated film no doubt!) to ME gives T2 a whole new level of "cheesiness" that even JW doesn't reach.
T2 is a crowd pleaser, and sometimes spectacularly so, but I think JW did a better job of "earning" its over the top and/or cheesy moments if you want to call them that.
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I actually can't recall the last time I watched T2 in full. But I often put it on to pull screengrabs for reference or for joke-posts etc - so it's always in my consciousness one way or another. I watched T1 in full a couple of weeks ago. I rate them equally really, they're both very good at what they depict and it really is just down to one's mood per Arnie as bad guy/Arnie as good guy.
But as to conveniences preventing Arnie from killing anyone in T2 versus Jurassic World's Raptors - as I said before it's better compared to the T-Rex. T-Rex doesn't kill anyone in JW. She is Uncle Bob here. And it's not like T2 has no killing - the T-1000 fills that role. So I continue to not feel there's any real problem there*
*at least as pertaining to T2. I do think that they cheapen it by regurgitating that same scenario again in T3 and T:Genisys
I actually can't recall the last time I watched T2 in full. But I often put it on to pull screengrabs for reference or for joke-posts etc - so it's always in my consciousness one way or another. I watched T1 in full a couple of weeks ago. I rate them equally really, they're both very good at what they depict and it really is just down to one's mood per Arnie as bad guy/Arnie as good guy.
But as to conveniences preventing Arnie from killing anyone in T2 versus Jurassic World's Raptors - as I said before it's better compared to the T-Rex. T-Rex doesn't kill anyone in JW. She is Uncle Bob here. And it's not like T2 has no killing - the T-1000 fills that role. So I continue to not feel there's any real problem there*
*at least as pertaining to T2. I do think that they cheapen it by regurgitating that same scenario again in T3 and T:Genisys
jye4ever
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I tried to get an uncle Bob smile angle on her for you a-dev
If you want to single out an "Uncle Bob" from JW it was definitely Blue, not the T-Rex. No one had any "relationship" so to speak with Rex. And Blue was a stone cold killer of peripheral characters depending on the circumstances.
Strange that Cameron didn't feel that he could do that in his R-rated story for adults. Like he really did think it was his "E.T." or something.
Strange that Cameron didn't feel that he could do that in his R-rated story for adults. Like he really did think it was his "E.T." or something.
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I liked Lost World, JP III, and Jurassic World about the same. They were all fine sequels, fun dinosaur movies. They all have pretty much the same beats too. Kids dealing with divorce, the chases and endings, etc. None of the sequels were awful, they just have one or two cringe worthy parts (black gymnastics girl kicking raptors, the Asian guys acting like they saw Godzilla, "Alan" Raptor, the phone in the Spino pile of ****, Jimmy Falon, Hipster bro).
Hell, even the first one had Timmy and Lex's parents splitting based on an offhand comment Hammond makes.
Oh no, were they really? I never picked that up.
I heard there was a deleted scene where just before Lex's dad leaves for good he says "always remember Lex, no matter how dark things get, you just turn on a flashlight and I'll be there."
Regardless of any relationship, movie fans regard the T-Rex as a hero character now. This despite the fact it was a man eater in JP1 and in JP:TLW. I'm curious if the Rex will ever be shown eating a human again. Even if it does happen it'll probably be an 'evil' human.
jye4ever
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Terminator sequels after T2 have really messed up a-dev.
