Well I can list some cool moments from the SW prequels too. "Darth Maul folds his arms," "Darth Maul turns his head," "Darth Maul ignites his saber," etc., but still, the bad outweighs the good.
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Well I can list some cool moments from the SW prequels too. "Darth Maul folds his arms," "Darth Maul turns his head," "Darth Maul ignites his saber," etc., but still, the bad outweighs the good.
Nuka Cola Kidd
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For me TLW is just below JP. I love it except the daughter. JP3 died to me when they killed the rex and the raptor flute. And the spino is a ***** with a **** for a nose.
I've been watching a bit of TLW over the last couple of days. I am finding it to be more watchable than I remembered. Julianne Moore is still annoying as heck but so far it has had its moments. Haven't gotten to the gymnastics part though.
You can't really expect people that wait 3-4 weeks to tsee JW to really enjoy it. First, there's no urge. Second, they've been reading way too much hype -- even if they just heard the numbers this thing is doing.
I agree, it was fun as heck to be blown away by this movie on opening day. If I was going in three weeks later expecting to see just how amazing a "1 billion dollars in 10 days movie" was supposed to after I'd read all the spoilers...yeah obviously that would have greatly diminished the experience.
Only good things in TLW are Goldblum's one-liners and the 'Trailer over the cliff' cliffhanger.
Roland promised to be a great Jurassic-Quint but he really never had that one great scene we were expecting. A waste of a potentially great character.
And the jeep-dino chase was ridicoulos. All those different types of dinos running together? None split the other way, all moving along like a highway. As silly as anyhting in JW, Bo Shrek.
Deckard
Super Freak
My greatest hope is you don't actually believe the nonsense you're trying to justify.
Some people have lives that prohibit day one viewings.
Nuka Cola Kidd
Super Freak
I'm gonna drop this right here.
The Jurassic Park Theme at 1000x Slower Speed Is Absolutely Gorgeous
Its very pleasing.
The Jurassic Park Theme at 1000x Slower Speed Is Absolutely Gorgeous
Its very pleasing.
And the duper dramatic shock on everyone's facing while they were watching InGen capture the dinos seemed silly. Maybe if they were blowing them away or something but just sedating them and moving them to cages? Spielberg clearly tried to sell it as this shockingly inhumane moment but it just didn't play out that way, IMO.
Master Wayne
Super Freak
I agree. The Lost World and Jurassic Park III, while certainly inferior to the original film, are not without their redeeming elements. I love the hunting party in The Lost World and any Jeff Goldblum is good Jeff Goldblum. The Spinosaurus built in Stan Winston's studio for JPIII was so massive they had to remove the doors from the building in order to move it to set, and it looks utterly incredible in the film. It's a mediocre movie, but the effects in it are probably the best in the entire series. I can't say the same for the cartoon currently in theaters.
Most people just like to hop from new thing to thing, while being influenced by popular opinion. Traction is no indicator of quality as far as I am concerned. This same summer the masses favored Pitch Perfect 2 to Mad Max. Box Office numbers mean as little to me as Oscar winners. As for TLW and JP3, I guess hating on the old films probably helps folks believe this new one is that much better, but in a year or two the skewed vision will clear up. It always does.
My greatest hope is you don't actually believe the nonsense you're trying to justify.
Some people have lives that prohibit day one viewings.
can't fault a guy for trying.
I love practical effects, but its funny that people rate this movie higher based on backstage work.
Anyway, if you were weened on JPIII I can totally understand the love for it -- there are some older folks here who absolutely love Goonies for whatever reason.
Sweeping generalizations can be used to support any opinion and pretty much any film. "Box office proves my point." "Reviews prove my point." "People NOT liking this movie proves my point." "This good movie bombing proves my point." Bla bla bla. You didn't care for a few minutes of JW on youtube. That doesn't make you an expert on why anyone else liked it nor does it make you an expert on why people didn't care for the last two films.
Master Wayne
Super Freak
Nuka Cola Kidd
Super Freak
Yep, and I just hate this movie because I'm a Batman fan.
Makes sense.
Master Wayne
Super Freak
I never considered that, but it is interesting. I suppose it boils down to what a viewer is looking for in the experience. Some folks just want to be entertained and don't care how a film goes about doing it. There's nothing wrong with that. Myself, I am more interested in being impressed than entertained. I grew up with Aliens and The Thing, so in-camera effects and how they were achieved became a major draw for me. I don't think JPIII is a very good film, but the visuals the filmmakers captured in frame are really good and I can't ignore that as a technically-minded viewer.
I never quite understood all the love for The Goonies. Not sure what I was missing there.
Deckard
Super Freak
But that argument doesn't work when people like myself find Jurassic World heavily flawed and non-memorable but still think it's better than TLW and JP3. Where JW succeeds is recapturing the basic idea that Jurassic Park presented. A window into the past designed to give humans a sense of a god like superiority that goes horribly wrong because of a lack of understanding and respect. It even elevated it rather well with the idea of training dinosaurs to do what we want.
TLW kinda tries to preserve that idea in having InGen want to bring dinosaurs back to the mainland, but of course where it fails is actually accomplishing that goal. Even though it goes horribly wrong, the flip that occurs when you put only one rampaging dinosaur on the mainland is empty. It stops being about the idea that no amount of preparation can prepare you when you play god. They needed a more strongly written ending to convey the idea that we should be working to preserve the island and not interfere. Once you go off island, you're dealing with a completely different franchise imo.
JP3 doesn't have that element at all. It's a really poorly written plot device just to get people back on the island but with no actual exposition. It's pure mindless action with dinosaurs. And dinosaurs that look way different than the ones we fell in love with. And kills Dinosaurs we fell in love with in favor of new ones that have no interesting characteristics.
Where JW is flawed is in the spectacle. The big dinosaur fights didn't feel as impressive to me knowing they were CGI. But that's still preferable to a movie with an entire 3rd act that's entirely irredeemable. I also felt that the kids were a massive problem, not because they were written into it to begin with, but because the older kid was a horrible actor with zero chemistry or charisma. Still better than Kelly but only slightly. And far more bearable than Eric Kirby and his urine collection. I was hard pressed to say I enjoyed TLW more but the truth is I enjoyed being a kid and playing with the toys at the time much more than that movie itself.
TLW kinda tries to preserve that idea in having InGen want to bring dinosaurs back to the mainland, but of course where it fails is actually accomplishing that goal. Even though it goes horribly wrong, the flip that occurs when you put only one rampaging dinosaur on the mainland is empty. It stops being about the idea that no amount of preparation can prepare you when you play god. They needed a more strongly written ending to convey the idea that we should be working to preserve the island and not interfere. Once you go off island, you're dealing with a completely different franchise imo.
JP3 doesn't have that element at all. It's a really poorly written plot device just to get people back on the island but with no actual exposition. It's pure mindless action with dinosaurs. And dinosaurs that look way different than the ones we fell in love with. And kills Dinosaurs we fell in love with in favor of new ones that have no interesting characteristics.
Where JW is flawed is in the spectacle. The big dinosaur fights didn't feel as impressive to me knowing they were CGI. But that's still preferable to a movie with an entire 3rd act that's entirely irredeemable. I also felt that the kids were a massive problem, not because they were written into it to begin with, but because the older kid was a horrible actor with zero chemistry or charisma. Still better than Kelly but only slightly. And far more bearable than Eric Kirby and his urine collection. I was hard pressed to say I enjoyed TLW more but the truth is I enjoyed being a kid and playing with the toys at the time much more than that movie itself.
TLW/JP3 CGI >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> JW the lousy CGI **** fest
Deckard
Super Freak
No doubt about that.
