Justice League Movie (Nov 17th, 2017)

[ShadowX81]

I just find it wired that we live in a society that heavily markets attractive women for their sexual appeal to the point where it is commodity, and simultaneously shames men for pursuing sexual relationships, even in an appropriate and legal way.

Note: Catcalling, harassing, threatening, or abusing women in any is way is still 100% wrong and shouldn't be tolerated.
But I see nothing wrong with hitting on or pursuing a woman so long as you know when to stop.

 

[crows]

Louis ck knew how nuts some women can be

 

[batfan08]

I just find it wired that we live in a society that heavily markets attractive women for their sexual appeal to the point where it is commodity, and simultaneously shames men for pursuing sexual relationships, even in an appropriate and legal way.

Note: Catcalling, harassing, threatening, or abusing women in any is way is still 100% wrong and shouldn't be tolerated.
But I see nothing wrong with hitting on or pursuing a woman so long as you stop when appropriate.

That’s kind of where I stand on it, too. Hollywood is a business built on vanity and sexualization. I can maybe understand a Meryl Streep or someone, yes, but a Jennifer Lawrence, for instance. Good actress, but how many actresses are out there that reflect the average American woman who are equally talented, but never get the chance because they don’t measure up to that Hollywood “ideal?” And I said it before, but I’ll say it again, if Harvey exposes himself to you and says “touch it or you’ll never work again,” that’s a clear violation, but him saying “you do this one thing for me and I’ll make sure you get this part over all the other girls” is a different story. I’m not saying it’s not sleazy, but, in one of those scenarios, if you agree to it, that’s not assault, that’s you making a conscious decision to benefit your career by exchanging sexual favors for a foot in the door. Are you allowed to regret what you did later on? Absolutely, but I’m sure there are a lot of women out there who have had one night stands they’ve regretted that have not allowed themselves to be categorized as victims on the basis that they regretted it later.

I’m not pointing to anyone’s story in particular, nor am I saying that all or any of the allegations are without merit, but it’s an alternative perspective worthy of consideration, I think.

 

[jye4ever]

Well said batfan.

I’ll like to add that some women claim being in a male dominated society they are forced to be outgoing and sexual or else they are quickly marginalized.

 

[crows]

Sexual and romantic relationships are tricky. Complicated.
Flirting is a complicated and people can read the wrong thing or misunderstand a woman's signals, men are more forward and women are more subtle.
For some men reading women's signals becomes difficult and they can have a hard time understanding if she likes them or not.

All of this would be fixed if people were freaking honest and say what they feel, but people dont. No one ever just says what they mean.
A lot of stupid guys think a woman likes them just because they are nice to them.

 

[Adolfo]

Change the name of this thread to "a history lesson on the pussification of man"...featuring your host of hosts Crows

 

[jye4ever]

Women always want the men that treat them the worst.

Nice guys always finish last.

 

[Skywalker(OG)Kush]

WTF is going on in here?


I've flirted with, hit on and catcalled girls I've liked and have never gotten in trouble, let alone a law suit against me.


"Waaaaah, I can't even compliment a girl without gettingnin trouuuubleee". What are you talking about? As long as you're not threatening her or her friends, you're fine.

Not eveyone hangs out at strip clubs lol. The 2nd part of your quote is out of left field due to not reading everything so its taken out of context of the discussion but whatever.. ya people are crying cause they are scared to complement girls... thats right.. do you even know what led to this discussion or do really you think people just started saying **** like that out of the blue

That’s kind of where I stand on it, too. Hollywood is a business built on vanity and sexualization. I can maybe understand a Meryl Streep or someone, yes, but a Jennifer Lawrence, for instance. Good actress, but how many actresses are out there that reflect the average American woman who are equally talented, but never get the chance because they don’t measure up to that Hollywood “ideal?” And I said it before, but I’ll say it again, if Harvey exposes himself to you and says “touch it or you’ll never work again,” that’s a clear violation, but him saying “you do this one thing for me and I’ll make sure you get this part over all the other girls” is a different story. I’m not saying it’s not sleazy, but, in one of those scenarios, if you agree to it, that’s not assault, that’s you making a conscious decision to benefit your career by exchanging sexual favors for a foot in the door. Are you allowed to regret what you did later on? Absolutely, but I’m sure there are a lot of women out there who have had one night stands they’ve regretted that have not allowed themselves to be categorized as victims on the basis that they regretted it later.
I’m not pointing to anyone’s story in particular, nor am I saying that all or any of the allegations are without merit, but it’s an alternative perspective worthy of consideration, I think.

Yes this man understands there is always 2 sides and the answer isnt always black or white

 

[Adolfo]

Women always want the men that treat them the worst.

Nice guys always finish last.

Agreed only up to a point...

 

[Khev]

That’s kind of where I stand on it, too. Hollywood is a business built on vanity and sexualization. I can maybe understand a Meryl Streep or someone, yes, but a Jennifer Lawrence, for instance. Good actress, but how many actresses are out there that reflect the average American woman who are equally talented, but never get the chance because they don’t measure up to that Hollywood “ideal?” And I said it before, but I’ll say it again, if Harvey exposes himself to you and says “touch it or you’ll never work again,” that’s a clear violation, but him saying “you do this one thing for me and I’ll make sure you get this part over all the other girls” is a different story. I’m not saying it’s not sleazy, but, in one of those scenarios, if you agree to it, that’s not assault, that’s you making a conscious decision to benefit your career by exchanging sexual favors for a foot in the door. Are you allowed to regret what you did later on? Absolutely, but I’m sure there are a lot of women out there who have had one night stands they’ve regretted that have not allowed themselves to be categorized as victims on the basis that they regretted it later.

I’m not pointing to anyone’s story in particular, nor am I saying that all or any of the allegations are without merit, but it’s an alternative perspective worthy of consideration, I think.

This. All of this. Nothing more needs to be said on the subject IMO. If a woman *wants* to sleep her way to the top then that's a lot different than being tricked into walking in on a fat naked man who then threatens to end your entire career. The woman who engages sexually for a one off role here and there might want to re-evaluate her life choices but that is a far cry from what Harvey is being accused of.

 

[The Clown Prince of Crime]

Women always want the men that treat them the worst.

Nice guys always finish last.

That's....true, in many cases.

 

[Khev]

That's....true, in many cases.

The secret as always is to be nice and simply pretend to not be as interested in them as you really are. It's not that women want jerks per se, they just want a challenge and to feel like they are "dating up" so to speak, just like us. Nice guys who fawn over them ruin all that and then complain about finishing last. Be the nice guy who is NOT interested in them, that's their kryptonite, lol.

 

[Adolfo]

I don't know how to read. That's the truth. I have someone read the posts to me, then tell them what to type. Tonight, Candy the stripper is typing out my responses.

You lucky sonofa...

 

[crows]

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Change the name of this thread to "a history lesson on the pussification of man"...featuring your host of hosts Crows

Women always want the men that treat them the worst.

Nice guys always finish last.

Nice guys dont finish last, they just have to wait till the woman is in her mid, late 30s and with a kid, then he definitely will win her over. They Just got to be patient lol
They will definitely win then

 

[Adolfo]

The secret as always is to be nice and simply pretend to not be as interested in them as you really are. It's not that women want jerks per se, they just want a challenge and to feel like they are "dating up" so to speak, just like us. Nice guys who fawn over them ruin all that and then complain about finishing last. Be the nice guy who is NOT interested in them, that's their kryptonite, lol.

Dude very good post...some of the best girls I had came up to me,bought me the drink...I used to just sit alone in the corner of the bar...I would look,stare sometimes talk to the bartender but never talked to the chicks...unless they talked to me first...keep em guessing...turn yourself into a cool mystery...look your best play it cool....it'll happen

 

[Adolfo]

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Holy shoot...I would actually put thatvup on my wall...."manners maketh the man"

 

[Khev]

Dude very good post...some of the best girls I had came up to me,bought me the drink...I used to just sit alone in the corner of the bar...I would look,stare sometimes talk to the bartender but never talked to the chicks...unless they talked to me first...keep em guessing...turn yourself into a cool mystery...look your best play it cool....it'll happen

Of course there's always the possibility that any given woman simply doesn't find you (not you specifically) attractive and so no amount of "playing it cool" will have any effect. And that shouldn't come as a shocking revelation, chicks want guys they find attractive just like we do. I think a lot of guys allow themselves to get bitter because they don't understand why fawning over women makes them *less* attractive or because they're shocked after watching all those romantic comedies where ugly guys end up with hot girls and it doesn't play out that way for them.

But playing it cool is always the best approach because at worst you're single but with dignity intact and at best you end up with the girl.

 

[Adolfo]

Of course there's always the possibility that any given woman simply doesn't find you (not you specifically) attractive and so no amount of "playing it cool" will have any effect. And that shouldn't come as a shocking revelation, chicks want guys they find attractive just like we do. I think a lot of guys allow themselves to get bitter because they don't understand why fawning over women makes them *less* attractive or because they're shocked after watching all those romantic comedies where ugly guys end up with hot girls and it doesn't play out that way for them.

But playing it cool is always the best approach because at worst you're single but with dignity intact and at best you end up with the girl.

Plenty of fish in the sea...gotta use the right bait

 

[crows]

Of course there's always the possibility that any given woman simply doesn't find you (not you specifically) attractive and so no amount of "playing it cool" will have any effect. And that shouldn't come as a shocking revelation, chicks want guys they find attractive just like we do. I think a lot of guys allow themselves to get bitter because they don't understand why fawning over women makes them *less* attractive or because they're shocked after watching all those romantic comedies where ugly guys end up with hot girls and it doesn't play out that way for them.

But playing it cool is always the best approach because at worst you're single but with dignity intact and at best you end up with the girl.

Money absolutely overrides all of this

We are only hearing about Weinstein's foul balls, his strike outs, but u are not hearing anything from all of his home runs.

And being in the business for so long and produce so many movies he mist have had dozens of home runs,
Money wins over everything, you just have to be smart on who not to go for.... understand that NO means NO and be cool about it

 

[Adolfo]

Personality can go a long way...looks work great initially. ..its always first....eventually a chick will spot the cool guy, even if avge..oh yeah...key is not to be to picky...