Justice League Movie (Nov 17th, 2017)

[jye4ever]

You’re probably right lol

I can see the confusion, The Thing is a true masterpiece and worthy of its recognition.

JL will never go The Thing route it will remain a bad movie.

 

[ApeManRyan]

It’s like a hail mary pass to save JL, to save the DCEU even!

It’s like “LOOK SEE THE SNYDER CUT WAS A MASTERPIECE AFTERALL!”

I guess it’s worth a shot lol

But look at 82 The Thing.

Movie was hated on release as much as JL but now hailed as a misunderstood masterpiece.

But it’s not a different cut of the movie, it’s the same movie as originally released in 82.

The biggest question right now in geek land is WHAT WILL WB DO WITH THE DCEU!

Thats Incorrect even though The Thing was not a hit it was nowhere near the level of hated on like Justice League. Not a lot got it at the time but never had the hatred of what we see today with films. Carpenter never blamed the movies unsuccessful for not being able to make films and be in more directorial films with big names studios. I've met him and anytime you bring up the film he enjoys talking about it. Halloween is the movie he hates talking about the most and rarely will give you a answer that you want to hear he prefers the thing and is proud of the film. It's never a little too late thing with him he enjoys that there is now a cult status for it and most of all carpenter loves to do his music these days. He has no regrets so your statement jye is incorrect about all of it and the thing should never be compared to justice league bombing status.

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[jye4ever]

I didn’t say he hates The Thing he’s very proud of the actual movie I said he hated what the reviews and box office bomb did to his career.

He has gone on record to say it hurt him in Hollywood.

The Thing absolutely was critically panned and absolutely was a box office bomb not that it was ever going to beat the higher budget family friendly ET from hollywood darling Spielberg.

 

[RIDDICK]

None of it in any way can be related to "Justus Leak 2017".

Just forget about that dumb post of yours and move on.
Or else...

Spoiler

 

[jye4ever]

It’s all relatable even if some comparisons are apples to oranges it’s still a discussion about these 3 topics:

Box Office
Professional Critical Opinions
Audience reception

Applies to all movies, I think anyways maybe i’m wrong.

 

[ApeManRyan]

I didn’t say he hates The Thing he’s very proud of the actual movie I said he hated what the reviews and box office bomb did to his career.

He has gone on record to say it hurt him in Hollywood.

The Thing absolutely was critically panned and absolutely was a box office bomb not that it was ever going to beat the higher budget family friendly ET from hollywood darling Spielberg.

I think overall Carpenter status has beaten most of what was considered a masterpiece at the time of The Thing. I do recall him talking about that but I think these days he's much more happy with the outcome than he use to be.

 

[Rainpaulo]

Checking out of this thread now...the level of hate on this movie is actually ridiculous.
Why guys keep coming back to a forum to continuously bash something more than once is a bit brain numbing ok

 

[jye4ever]

It’s possible that you’re missing the bigger picture though.

There are people on here now bashing JL who have previously given their all defending MOS and BvS so it’s really not a hate fest for the DCEU as it seems it might be.

I guess we can’t like them all.

You know part of enjoying cinema also involves discussing the bad movies because only thru contrast can you appreciate the good ones.

I have also changed my opinion on a movie based off feedback from others.

It’s also very healthy to interject humor into bad movie discussions.

 

[crows]

Jye lied.....
Riddick cried....

 

[jye4ever]

No need to be depressed over the failure of JL.

One day in the future DC movies will be the cinematic leaders in quality while Marvel will be going thru their slump.

The pendulum is always in motion.

 

[Prime Clone]

Plus DC is slaying 'em on the TV side. That tends to get overlooked.

Anyhoo, I loved BvS and JL, and aren't particularly pumped for IW. I realize that makes me an anomaly.

 

[abake]

I don't think there's that much hatred towards JL. In general, I think it has had a better overall critical reception than BvS had at the time.
It's a lighter movie than its predecessors, it tries to be upbeat, but it suffers from a lot of problems stemming from being the result of way too many people weighing in on it.
The problem is that it does not follow Snyder's ideas and vision for the DCEU, so it looks and feels disjointed. And for people who liked Snyder's approach, it's a letdown.
It probably wouldn't have fared much better at the box office even if WB had let Snyder do his thing, but at least we would've had a much more coherent trilogy, and MoS/BvS fans would've been happy.
But it really isn't a terrible movie, it's just that it isn't as good at being light(er) as the MCU flicks, and it lost the "grandiose" tone that Snyder put into his films.

 

[abake]

Plus DC is slaying 'em on the TV side. That tends to get overlooked.

Anyhoo, I loved BvS and JL, and aren't particularly pumped for IW. I realize that makes me an anomaly.

Right there with ya dude!

 

[Prime Clone]

 

[ironwez20]

No need to be depressed over the failure of JL.

One day in the future DC movies will be the cinematic leaders in quality while Marvel will be going thru their slump.

The pendulum is always in motion.

I actually feel this might happen if marvel doesn’t get the xmen or ff back. I don’t know who the hell they’ll use once iron man and cap are gone .

 

[ironwez20]

I don't think there's that much hatred towards JL. In general, I think it has had a better overall critical reception than BvS had at the time.
It's a lighter movie than its predecessors, it tries to be upbeat, but it suffers from a lot of problems stemming from being the result of way too many people weighing in on it.
The problem is that it does not follow Snyder's ideas and vision for the DCEU, so it looks and feels disjointed. And for people who liked Snyder's approach, it's a letdown.
It probably wouldn't have fared much better at the box office even if WB had let Snyder do his thing, but at least we would've had a much more coherent trilogy, and MoS/BvS fans would've been happy.
But it really isn't a terrible movie, it's just that it isn't as good at being light(er) as the MCU flicks, and it lost the "grandiose" tone that Snyder put into his films.

No hatred towards JL at all I think people just expected the likes of JL to blow avengers away. They expected way more

 

[crows]

I actually feel this might happen if marvel doesn’t get the xmen or ff back. I don’t know who the hell they’ll use once iron man and cap are gone .

Easy, they just use the characters from netflix shows into their movies.
Cinematic universe with the defenders, daredevil, punisher, ghostrider,

 

[Chakor]

I actually feel this might happen if marvel doesn’t get the xmen or ff back. I don’t know who the hell they’ll use once iron man and cap are gone .

Yeah I don't see the relevance to the MCU once those characters are done. Homecoming 2, Doctor Strange 2, and maybe another Ant-Meh flick are all I see.

But we all know they'll come up with something, and it will probably be really bad.

 

[jye4ever]

Plus DC is slaying 'em on the TV side. That tends to get overlooked.

Anyhoo, I loved BvS and JL, and aren't particularly pumped for IW. I realize that makes me an anomaly.

Not at all an anomaly perfectly reasonable.....

I actually feel this might happen if marvel doesn’t get the xmen or ff back. I don’t know who the hell they’ll use once iron man and cap are gone .

They’re hoping Captain Marvel will fill the void.

 

[Chakor]

They’re hoping Captain Marvel will fill the void.