Kong: Skull Island <<SPOILERS>>

[jye4ever]

Yup, would've been better than Kong vs crappy looking monsters with boring skull heads.

 

[JAWS]

Kong's personality was actually not a problem for me, he's angry, i'm good with that.

But no matter how cool looking, angry, tall, fast, agile and strong he was, none of his opponents were worthy.

I can't argue with that as far as cool factor goes but I thought the Final Skull Crawler was a much better opponent then say the T-rex in PJ's Kong... After all one on one it was no challenge at all.. Kong made short change of that guy... BUT T-Rex's are much cooler then Skull Crushers

He might as well just been fighting an invisible monster because it would've been the same thing for me.

I have a feeling that repeat viewings will help you warm up to the other monsters in this film.

Kong vs helicopters was indeed fun, well choreographed and shot but after the 30th chopper I had enough.

I could have used 30 more

Kong vs bad cgi Octo was over very quick and it was just meh. I liked that he ate him though but man that cgi.

I do wish that fight went on longer... But I thought it was a nice wink and a nod to the Octopus in King Kong vs Godzilla and king Kong Escapes.

Kong vs small dumb skull whatever....Zzzzz.

To be fair... That was only a montage... Hard to get excited with a montage... WAIT! Didn't you like Captain America TFA

Kong vs SLJ....Zzzzz.

Booooo on you

Kong vs big dumb skull whatever....Zzzzz.

Thought this was fine.... Just felt like (as khev said) been there done that... But if I am going to be there and do it again it might as well be a giant Monster fight

How can Kong NOT have worthy opponents on SKULL ISLAND!

I go back to the other Kong film... T-Rex's look cooler but one on one the T-Rex was a much easier opponent for Kong.

In fact I really like the Kong vs T-Rex one on one fight in PJ's Kong but thought the 3 on 1 fight was not that good and thought the Skull Crusher fights were better then that... Original Kong vs T-Rex is still the best.

And what the hell was up with that gas mask scene lol!

Corny and bad... Can't argue with that.

AvP was better!

Take that back or we are no longer friends

 

[JAWS]

But a t.rex vs a giant gorilla never gets old. That's why it's been remade several times. It's just such a great fight.

Oh I get it... I just think that is why the studio / writers did not do it.

 

[jye4ever]

I just said that out of spite lol.

I have 4 free movie tickets burning a hole in my pocket maybe I should go see it again.

Then Logan x 3.

 

[JAWS]

I did like his character but the supposedly poignant epilogue showing all of his dreams coming true back in the States went on way too long and was just odd.

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It was odd but I am glad they did it. I was actually worried we would not get to see that. Because it was over the end credits the length of it did not bother me that it felt just a tad out of place.

 

[JAWS]

I just said that out of spite lol.

I have 4 free movie tickets burning a hole in my pocket maybe I should go see it again.

Then Logan x 3.

Curious to see how you like it.

I am going again and I am curious to see how it holds up with a second viewing.

I hope we both end up happy

 

[jye4ever]

I didn't even see the "big" version of the skull crawler (ughh) being that much more of a threat than the regular one.

Pacific Rim had the same problem, the reveal of the big category 5 kaiju in the ocean was just as anticlimatic, couldn't even make him out.

At least in Kong the battle was in daylight but that's not good either because the creature was lame looking.

The tail kill of the soldier was cool though but by that point I had no idea which soldier was which.

 

[Khev]

If this was the first Kong movie ever I could see myself enjoying it a lot more. But he's one of my favorite all time monsters and I've loved every major version of Kong since the beginning (1933, 1976, and 2005.) I know that PJ's movie went on some weird tangents that turned people off but otherwise I find that film to be a Best Picture quality masterpiece.

I wasn't prepared for him to have very little interaction with the humans and for them to just watch him have a generic fight with a big weird monster. The climax of this movie would have just been a warm up fight in PJ's film.

 

[jye4ever]

Yeah for me PJ Kong is pretty damn amazing especially the extended cut, sure some parts of it are bloat but the strengths definstely make up for its weaknesses.

The second I saw the primary threat for Kong in the trailers I thought LAME!

Unfortunately they remained the primary threat, I was hoping some cool giant dinoaurs or were going to show up but nope.

The big spider was cool but it was wasted.

I get why they made those exotic looking skull crawlers (ughh it hurts) they used them as warm up for the weird TOHO creatures that will be showing up later.

 

[JAWS]

I just said that out of spite lol.

Oh by the way..... friendship saved.

I didn't even see the "big" version of the skull crawler (ughh) being that much more of a threat than the regular one.

Pacific Rim had the same problem, the reveal of the big category 5 kaiju in the ocean was just as anticlimatic, couldn't even make him out.

He took the small ones out pretty quick. In fact If I remember correctly didn't the big one have the upper hand for most of the fight? I get that the creatures were an average design but they were a threat.

If this was the first Kong movie ever I could see myself enjoying it a lot more. But he's one of my favorite all time monsters and I've loved every major version of Kong since the beginning (1933, 1976, and 2005.) I know that PJ's movie went on some weird tangents that turned people off but otherwise I find that film to be a Best Picture quality masterpiece.

I wasn't prepared for him to have very little interaction with the humans and for them to just watch him have a generic fight with a big weird monster. The climax of this movie would have just been a warm up fight in PJ's film.

I always have loved Kong also. Nice to meet a fellow fan of the 70's version. I got to see that one in the theaters back in the day. The great score by John Berry is the best of the Kong scores IMO. As for Skull island, I guess after the G14 film this was what I needed. Just one of my faves monsters kicking all film long.

 

[GodzillaSpawn]

Nah, Kong was pretty much winning that fight against the big one consistently. The only times the skullcrawler seemed to have an upper hand is when he first attacked when kong was recovering after killing SLJ and then when the sequence where Kong got caught in the chains and the humans helped.

I do agree the big skullcrawler wasn't amazing to look at but I'm happy it wasn't a dinosaur again. I for one am over seeing Kong vs a large to rex. Talk about repetitive. At least most of these creatures are unique looking.

Loved Kong's personality. I felt his anger brewing and I seemed to know exactly what he was thinking at all times. They just didn't put him in more sentimental or vulnerable scenes with humans which the other films have.



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[Khev]

I can see why lifelong DC fans were upset with BvS and SS. I do think this is another case of WB just half-assing an excuse to jump from action sequence to action sequence with very little narrative groundwork developed in between.

Skull Island juggled way too many characters. This movie should have been about John Goodman, Sam Jackson, Brie Larson, and KONG. That's how the other films did it. Focus on a guy who wants to help, a guy whose ambition threatens to screw everything up, the monkey and the girl. John Goodman was criminally underrused. 10 Cloverfield Lane proved that he could easily carry one side of the entire picture. The scene where SLJ initially holds a gun on him was probably the best character moment in the entire film.

But from that point on Goodman's just another red shirt doofus who doesn't serve the story in any way. I felt like the studio decided that since Goodman wasn't from the MCU that he doesn't "count." Why was Loki in this movie? They should have defied expectations by having him be this big tracker badass only to be one of the first to meet a horrifying end. The movie kept him around but since it also had John C Reilly (the REAL wilderness badass of the island) he was completely unnecessary. He didn't even do anything cool like putting the poor guy being ripped apart by birds out of his misery with a well placed shot.

Peter Jackson also had more characters than necessary but at least he counter balanced it with the 3 hour run time to give those extra characters room to breathe. Skull Island said "let's keep PJ's massive cast but cut out an hour of Kong himself. We'll just make JC Reilly 'Exposition Man' who will just explain things about Kong that other films revealed poignantly in real time" (like when Watts learned he was the last of his kind by discovering the graveyard.)

It's nothing to get worked up about because I've already got three King Kong films that I really enjoy. And I love that with 33, 76, and 05 we've got all three primary visual effects techniques (stop-motion, guy in suit, and CGI) represented. So Skull Island is completely superfluous in that regard. But 33 is one of cinema's all time classics and then both 76 and 05 really aspired to transcend the genre. 76 was a follow-up to JAWS and was trying to be the next truly great monster movie. PJ obviously aspired to make an Academy Award worthy tale, arguably to a fault.

But Skull Island seems to just want to be a cheap guilty pleasure that does nothing but set up future monster "vs" movies. Kong usually gets more respect than that.

 

[GodzillaSpawn]

I agree about Goodman. He was under-used, but not as much as Cranston in Godzilla. The movie seemed a little more humor-driven, with the exceptions of said gun scene and character deaths. But it was treated as an action-adventure film and it was advertised as such. I agree with loki being irrelevant to it. Hell,half of straight out of compton was in it. Had they been boring characters this movie would gave been as boring as Godzilla. They realized that if they aren't going to have the human storyline then they were at least not going to use boring or stale characters this time. I can fall asleep watching godzilla 2014--this I don't worry about that. What's that saying? The worst thing you can be is boring?

I clearly expected this kind of movie. If I didn't I'd be frustrated. Because I definitely expected a different Godzilla movie.


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[jye4ever]

I can see why lifelong DC fans were upset with BvS and SS. I do think this is another case of WB just half-assing an excuse to jump from action sequence to action sequence with very little narrative groundwork developed in between.

Skull Island juggled way too many characters. This movie should have been about John Goodman, Sam Jackson, Brie Larson, and KONG. That's how the other films did it. Focus on a guy who wants to help, a guy whose ambition threatens to screw everything up, the monkey and the girl. John Goodman was criminally underrused. 10 Cloverfield Lane proved that he could easily carry one side of the entire picture. The scene where SLJ initially holds a gun on him was probably the best character moment in the entire film.

But from that point on Goodman's just another red shirt doofus who doesn't serve the story in any way. I felt like the studio decided that since Goodman wasn't from the MCU that he doesn't "count." Why was Loki in this movie? They should have defied expectations by having him be this big tracker badass only to be one of the first to meet a horrifying end. The movie kept him around but since it also had John C Reilly (the REAL wilderness badass of the island) he was completely unnecessary. He didn't even do anything cool like putting the poor guy being ripped apart by birds out of his misery with a well placed shot.

Peter Jackson also had more characters than necessary but at least he counter balanced it with the 3 hour run time to give those extra characters room to breathe. Skull Island said "let's keep PJ's massive cast but cut out an hour of Kong himself. We'll just make JC Reilly 'Exposition Man' who will just explain things about Kong that other films revealed poignantly in real time" (like when Watts learned he was the last of his kind by discovering the graveyard.)

It's nothing to get worked up about because I've already got three King Kong films that I really enjoy. And I love that with 33, 76, and 05 we've got all three primary visual effects techniques (stop-motion, guy in suit, and CGI) represented. So Skull Island is completely superfluous in that regard. But 33 is one of cinema's all time classics and then both 76 and 05 really aspired to transcend the genre. 76 was a follow-up to JAWS and was trying to be the next truly great monster movie. PJ obviously aspired to make an Academy Award worthy tale, arguably to a fault.

But Skull Island seems to just want to be a cheap guilty pleasure that does nothing but set up future monster "vs" movies. Kong usually gets more respect than that.

Bingo!

Tracker my ass, he tracked me right to not understanding or caring what purpose he served, which was none.

Reilly and his natives should've been the trackers, why wouldn't they be since they've been there since forever. The natives helping him and getting killed along the way would've made me actually care about them.

Goodman is as good as Cranston when he is given material to be. Wasted.

Character actions felt so forced, look at me i'm the soldier that sacrifices myself, look at me i'm the soldier that gets sentimental, oh look at me i'm the scientist nerd that uses the 50 cal lol.

 

[RIDDICK]

The movie seemed a little more humor-driven, with the exceptions of said gun scene and character deaths. But it was treated as an action-adventure film and it was advertised as such.

Had they been boring characters this movie would gave been as boring as Godzilla. They realized that if they aren't going to have the human storyline then they were at least not going to use boring or stale characters this time. I can fall asleep watching godzilla 2014--this I don't worry about that.

I clearly expected this kind of movie. If I didn't I'd be frustrated. Because I definitely expected a different Godzilla movie.

 

[JAWS]

I can see why lifelong DC fans were upset with BvS and SS. I do think this is another case of WB just half-assing an excuse to jump from action sequence to action sequence with very little narrative groundwork developed in between.

I wish BvS was as good as this film.

Skull Island juggled way too many characters. This movie should have been about John Goodman, Sam Jackson, Brie Larson, and KONG. That's how the other films did it. Focus on a guy who wants to help, a guy whose ambition threatens to screw everything up, the monkey and the girl. John Goodman was criminally underrused. 10 Cloverfield Lane proved that he could easily carry one side of the entire picture. The scene where SLJ initially holds a gun on him was probably the best character moment in the entire film.

But from that point on Goodman's just another red shirt doofus who doesn't serve the story in any way. I felt like the studio decided that since Goodman wasn't from the MCU that he doesn't "count." Why was Loki in this movie? They should have defied expectations by having him be this big tracker badass only to be one of the first to meet a horrifying end. The movie kept him around but since it also had John C Reilly (the REAL wilderness badass of the island) he was completely unnecessary. He didn't even do anything cool like putting the poor guy being ripped apart by birds out of his misery with a well placed shot.

I thought John seemed to be phoning it in... Especially in the beginning. He could have been given more to do and it seems weird that they would cast him in that role. At the same time I think they were going for a surprise factor killing him off. Admittedly it did not work

Peter Jackson also had more characters than necessary but at least he counter balanced it with the 3 hour run time to give those extra characters room to breathe. Skull Island said "let's keep PJ's massive cast but cut out an hour of Kong himself. We'll just make JC Reilly 'Exposition Man' who will just explain things about Kong that other films revealed poignantly in real time" (like when Watts learned he was the last of his kind by discovering the graveyard.)

PJ's Kong has the advantage of being based on what is truly a great story. The three hour running time did not add anything to the side characters in this film. The chef, Choi, the kid, the first mate, the captain, the producer, and camera man, and the ton of other no face sailor's were not any more fleshed out then the New film... New film just did it in less time. Actually I would say it was the same amount of time since the Ship scene and Skull Island scene end up being as long as the new movie since the first half hour and last hour have nothing to do with the sailors.

I don't want to appear to be too hard on PJ's Kong. I liked it when it first came out... But I actually probably felt a bit more like you did Khev about this film just for different reasons. Kong was a great character... Perhaps a bit too kid friendly but still great. But I thought the film failed in brining excitement. Well not the Empire State building scene. That was pretty great. But major action scenes like the Bronto Stampede and the T-Rex fight took me out of the film because it went so over the top. Like I said before the 1 on 1 Kong vs T-rex moment was great because it was easy to follow and well shot. The 3 on 1 was just bloated overkill, hard to follow and a bit eye rolling due to Ann being in Kong's hand most the time. The vine sequence was a complete waste of time. It's was all a great spectacle but just too much and it hurt the film not enhanced. I thought the theatrical version's skull Island was a let down also. The crew ran into Brontosaurus', Bugs and Kong. The extended version helped a lot by adding the triceratops and the Paranadon.

Don't get me started on "crapping the crappers" Jack Black. He was really miscast in this film. I usually like him but he was too much in this.

I liked Naomi in the film but Adrian Brody did nothing for me.

But it's a film about Kong and it's well made so I still find enjoyment out of it.

However give me JC Reilly's character over anyone in PJ's Kong. Give Me SLJ over Jack Black. Loki was misused that it true. He offered nothing. I thought the rest of the soldiers were just fine and no better or worse then any other Kong film.

NOW I have to watch this about 10 more times to really compare it to PJ's Kong. But I left the theater happier... I am sure Expectations had something to do with it. I was not that excited for this film and was pleasantly surprised. PJ's Kong was the follow up to LOTR and I was pumped for a three our giant monster movie... It just got too goofy and bloated with things that did not matter.

Don't get me wrong.. PJ's Kong is better made but I just don't enjoy it as much as I thought I would. It's more PJ's The Hobbit then PJ's LOTR.

It's nothing to get worked up about because I've already got three King Kong films that I really enjoy. And I love that with 33, 76, and 05 we've got all three primary visual effects techniques (stop-motion, guy in suit, and CGI) represented. So Skull Island is completely superfluous in that regard. But 33 is one of cinema's all time classics and then both 76 and 05 really aspired to transcend the genre. 76 was a follow-up to JAWS and was trying to be the next truly great monster movie. PJ obviously aspired to make an Academy Award worthy tale, arguably to a fault.

But Skull Island seems to just want to be a cheap guilty pleasure that does nothing but set up future monster "vs" movies. Kong usually gets more respect than that

Well what they aspired too and what they became are very different issues. IMO Both the 70's and Pj's were a BIG swing and a miss to what they tried to aspire to and in this case Skull Island was more of a success... Granted it set the bar much lower

And hate to say it.. But I am not a huge fan of all the character building they did for Kong in PJ's film... The laughing, the sunsets, the ice skating etc. That is not really Kong to me. I like Kong as more of a Brawling Brute (the '33 Original, KKvG, and Skull Island) rather then a "sensitive ape"

I thought we got what we should have got... A well made Kaiju film. Since that is the direction the film is heading. Like you said, we already have 3 other "true" Kong movies that told that story... I don't think we needed another.

I think Kong being you fav. monster defiantly hurt this for you... I always liked him but the Japanese Kaiju were always better in my book. Hence why my feelings about G14 is probably the way you feel about Skull Island.

I would give anything to have replace Kong in this with Godzilla and have had this be the G14 Godzilla film... You should count yourself lucky

Sucks that you did not find as much enjoyment in it as I did Khev... I wish I found as much enjoyment out of PJs Kong as you do.

I clearly expected this kind of movie. If I didn't I'd be frustrated. Because I definitely expected a different Godzilla movie.


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Nail on the head for me...

 

[GodzillaSpawn]

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[JAWS]

Bingo!

Tracker my ass, he tracked me right to not understanding or caring what purpose he served, which was none.

Reilly and his natives should've been the trackers, why wouldn't they be since they've been there since forever. The natives helping him and getting killed along the way would've made me actually care about them.

Goodman is as good as Cranston when he is given material to be. Wasted.

Character actions felt so forced, look at me i'm the soldier that sacrifices myself, look at me i'm the soldier that gets sentimental, oh look at me i'm the scientist nerd that uses the 50 cal lol.

Thinking of this Kong movie... Like I said to Khev... Substitute Kong with Godzilla and perhaps have the end fight in a city then this would have been a great almost perfect GODZILLA flick... Kong is lucky to be in such a great kaiju film

FUMUTO

 

[jye4ever]

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Thinking of this Kong movie... Like I said to Khev... Substitute Kong with Godzilla and perhaps have the end fight in a city then this would have been a great almost perfect GODZILLA flick... Kong is lucky to be in such a great kaiju film

FUMUTO

This Kong was a wimp he needed a chain weapon to win the battle.

Godzilla is going to tear him a new one lol.

 

[Wor-Gar]

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