Legalizing Drugs On The Horizon

[Black@ssB0lt]

Thank you for the condolences. Not trying to be disrespectful but that's about all I can agree on. This is my opinion and mine only. I think to many parents try the softer gentler way of parenting. I go to stores, restaurants and see kids running rough shod through the establishment. Way to often I see young kids actually slap at their parents. Most of the time all you see the parent do is just shrug it off, say "oh well, kids will be kids".

I don't understand Celtics views with his parents. I don't find it acceptable that he TELLS parents that if he feels like it he is going to smoke, drink whatever he tells them, especially if they help him with his hobby. I think your son is pretty young right now, I look forward to updates on how accepting you are going to be with him as he gets more rambuntious as we boys do.

You say you're going to let your son make his own mistakes? Are you going to let him touch a hot stove? Cross a street without looking? Of course not. So why would you let him do stuff like smoking or drinking just because you had a long talk about it. My kids are to old now for spankings (yes, I believe in it)but will not hesitate to take phones, IPODs, outings or whatever it takes to get my point across. I have posted it before but will again. I have 2 daughters 16 and 14 and 2 step-daughters 15 and 12. I am firm with them, but they adore me and I them. I hope your parenting works out for you, but I know what worked for me.

As far as being hypocritical, you're 100 % correct. I parent by "do as I say not as I do". If your son comes up to you at the age of 11 and says he wants to have sex with the 16 yr. old next door, are you going to think "well, I have sex and I'd be a hypocrite to tell him he can't? If so then I may as well not respond anymore, because our parental methods are polar opposites.

 

[Bannister]

As far as being hypocritical, you're 100 % correct. I parent by "do as I say not as I do". If your son comes up to you at the age of 11 and says he wants to have sex with the 16 yr. old next door, are you going to think "well, I have sex and I'd be a hypocrite to tell him he can't? If so then I may as well not respond anymore, because our parental methods are polar opposites.

I would say good luck.

 

[OSCORP]

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[hairlesswookiee]

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lol...'shrooms. something about sifting through cow poo to get high just doesn't seem appealing to me. by all means if that's your deal go for it, but wash your hands after.

 

[OSCORP]

lol...'shrooms. something about sifting through cow poo to get high just doesn't seem appealing to me. by all means if that's your deal go for it, but wash your hands after.

Heaven in a cows ass...

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[Darklord Dave]

Kids can learn by their parents mistakes too. My parents were completely clean, never did anything and had no experience with anything illicit, so aside from saying "don't do it" they had nothing to back it up.
A parent who HAS experienced such things can make a much better point for staying away from stuff will have more credibility in the eyes of their kids.

I've had close friends die from alcohol poisoning, liver damage, drunk drivers, etc.

But do I think alcohol should be made illegal? Nope.

 

[OSCORP]

I'm not sure how this guy feels about it.

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[Anzik]

My he seems rather 'speedy'.

 

[The Chaver]

I'm not sure how this guy feels about it.

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Sad.. but.. true...

 

[pixletwin]

Well however everyone feels, Marijuana is still illegal in most areas and you are putting your personal life and professional life in geopardy using it.

Everyone agree on that?

 

[OSCORP]

Nope i'm using it tonight as i'm on a day off. And everything is swell. Have not touched it in over 2 mos, but tonight is the night.

 

[Anzik]

11 years for me. Last time was a Jimmy Buffett concert the year before my son was born.

 

[pixletwin]

Nope i'm using it tonight as i'm on a day off. And everything is swell. Have not touched it in over 2 mos, but tonight is the night.

Nope what? It is legal where you live and should the police getcha lol) you are immune somehow from prosecution?

 

[OSCORP]

Nope what? It is legal where you live?

I've been drinking stouts all afternoon, i'll have to get back to ya.

Day off all that peace!

11 years for me. Last time was a Jimmy Buffett concert the year before my son was born.

Party animal

 

[OSCORP]

I'm coming to Utah and were getting hammered and playing with SW dolls PIX!

Don't even think of saying no!

 

[pixletwin]

Don't tell my plural wives. They would disapprove.

 

[OSCORP]

We'll tell em were going on a mission statement or something. Meanwhile we'll be smoking and drinking, and comparing LOTR SW etc. kit bashes and figures. It'll be swell!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! My woman is cool she won't care.

 

[Badvermin]

Well however everyone feels, Marijuana is still illegal in most areas and you are putting your personal life and professional life in geopardy using it.

Everyone agree on that?

By the way, the word you were looking for was jeopardy.

And nope, I can't agree on that.

I had a owner/boss who actually said anybody who PASSED a drug test would be fired. On my first day on the job, he came in and started cleaning out his pipe, keep in mind this was a multimillion dollar company.

As for messing up my personal life, I smoked in the past and it didn't cause me any problems at all. I also don't know a single person who has had their life damaged by it, alcohol however has. Plus since it has been decriminalized in my state, even if I did decide to smoke and got busted, I wouldn't be locked up, but given a small fine.

 

[pixletwin]

Thanks for the spelling correction.

Even though you never were caught or had sympathetic bosses/whoever doesn't mean the risk wasn't still there for you nor for for anyone else who is currently using it.

"I have driven a car my whole life and never been in an accident" does not logically translate to "I will never be in an accident and neither will anyone else".

 

[The Ween]

https://www.parade.com/news/2009/03/why-we-must-fix-our-prisons.html

From the article, page 2:

Drug offenders, most of them passive users or minor dealers, are swamping our prisons. According to data supplied to Congress' Joint Economic Committee, those imprisoned for drug offenses rose from 10% of the inmate population to approximately 33% between 1984 and 2002. Experts estimate that this increase accounts for about half of the dramatic escalation in the total number imprisoned over that period. Yet locking up more of these offenders has done nothing to break up the power of the multibillion-dollar illegal drug trade. Nor has it brought about a reduction in the amounts of the more dangerous drugs--such as cocaine, heroin, and methamphetamines--that are reaching our citizens.

Justice statistics also show that 47.5% of all the drug arrests in our country in 2007 were for marijuana offenses. Additionally, nearly 60% of the people in state prisons serving time for a drug offense had no history of violence or of any significant selling activity. Indeed, four out of five drug arrests were for possession of illegal substances, while only one out of five was for sales. Three-quarters of the drug offenders in our state prisons were there for nonviolent or purely drug offenses.