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Collecting period is by far the best and only addiction I practice. I only get f'ed up on special occasions like when I haven't seen a relative or friend in a long time. :rock

EXACTLY! I drink and maybe do other things but it's only on occasion. Not just like "hey I'm bored let's get drunk" or "let's get stoned". It's not like that. I'm not heavy into any of that stuff. I am addicted to collecting and collecting only.
 
EXACTLY! I drink and maybe do other things but it's only on occasion. Not just like "hey I'm bored let's get drunk" or "let's get stoned". It's not like that. I'm not heavy into any of that stuff. I am addicted to collecting and collecting only.

Yeah it's the best way to do it, anymore than that (at least for me anyway) and your inviting problems into your life. Plus I'm 33 years old and have done my share of partying believe me,it just got old. I find that my life is far more exiting and less troublesome when I'm not making an effort to get f'ed up all the time.

Collecting has definitely grounded me if you can believe that?
 
Hey whether you like it or not for the majority of Americans, drugs are still illegal. If the owners of this site are ok with the picture then who am I to say something. I just know that people have incriminated themselves and lost jobs by pictures that they have posted on the internet. Do you think an employer with a no drugs policy would hire someone if during a background check they found them toking on a bowl on my-space or facebook? Just the other week a teacher lost her job because she was posing with a gun on the internet.

hey, good looking out hoody.

Interestingly, legality for weed in the states is becoming a matter of a county by county interpretation. In some parts of my very very woefully conservative state, they have local music/camping weekends and local police just turn a blind eye to the drug use that obviously goes on. There are mobile vendors walking around shouting "Peanut Butter Goo Balls" and such, and weed is only one drug that is floating around there in mass quantities.

"Like it or not", legal or not, drugs or not, accidents will happen with the same frequency. But if you legalized drugs, instantly drug violence will drop sharply. People getting getting trampled to death in Target stores on Black Friday will only get worse.
 
Yeah it's the best way to do it anymore than that (at least for me anyway) and your inviting problems into your life. Plus I'm 33 years old and have done my share of partying believe me,it just got old. I find that my life is far more exiting and less troublesome when I'm not making an effort to get f'ed up all the time.

:clap :clap amen bro. I'm 21 and I used to party all the time. I'm still young but that period is out of my life. On to better things. And like you said (And I completley agree) doing that alot is like asking for trouble.
 
part of my master plan is to trick the gov't into legalizing weed by allowing them to tax it, then grow my own. muahahahaha
 
I'm going from my life and seeing what drugs did in my family. I'm not wishing that someone you love dies from drug use. No where did I say that and I wouldn't say it. What I am implying is that with how widespread drug use is there is a good possibility that someone in your life, a friend, a cousin, a co-worker will start using harder drugs after being a casual drug user. Nothing meant to be ignorant about the statement.

I am very sorry for the loss of your family members to drugs. But you must realize that you're in a minority? This is not the norm for the majority of families.

More people in my life - and the majority of peoples' lives - will die from cancer that started because of smoking cigarettes or chewing tobacco, or due to liver disease that started because of abuse of alcohol, than because of complications from drugs that are currently illegal. I am 100% sure of that fact.

Current death count of people *close* to me due to substance abuse of some kind (not counting people I've only met a couple of times through mutual friends, or celebrities):

Cancer due to smoking cigs/chewing tobacco: 3
Liver disease due to abuse of alcohol: 1
Illegal Drug Complications: 0

I don't see that changing even if those drugs become legal. I think we've already established that just because it's illegal doesn't stop anyone from doing it if they want to do it. It just makes them HIDE what they do.

I'd even go so far as to argue that more people who have problems with illegal drugs (even prescription drugs) may get help EARLIER if the drugs were legal and didn't have such a huge stigma attached to them. Plus, more people that care about them would know they were doing them in the first place, so it wouldn't come as such a shock when they suddenly overdosed - you could try intervention earlier in the game.

Bottom line: drugs aren't going to disappear no matter what how much we escalate the 'war' on them. In fact, that makes them even more addicting and alluring to certain types of people.

Like I said though, moot point. It's not like they're gonna make anything legal in our lifetime, except for perhaps pot at the very most.
 
The western culture is one of entitlement and no accountability. Well most of the world doesn't operate like the US. The world is cold and brutal and dark and ruthless. Most of the world doesn't hide behind lawyers and lawsuits and liberalism like Americans do. Most of the world realizes much faster and more deeply, compared to most Americans, that life has always been and will always be cheap. There are places in the world where carjackers are dragged out into the street by angry mobs and beaten to death. There are places in the world where thieves have their hands cut off. And there are places in the world, like Singapore, where having enough drugs on you means you die.

There's also places in the word where marijuana is legal, and it isn't causing any of these issues that some folks are so afraid will happen here. In fact, marijuana (and hemp moreso) is a huge financial benefit to most of these places - do your homework, you'll see.

There's also places in the world where women are legally beaten by men, family members are killed for having sex (or killed for being raped). What does this have to do with the situation in America? Nothing at all.

I would reccomend living on one these other countries you speak for a while, then let us know how much better it is living under an iron fist. Sure you may get your hands chopped off for stealing, you can also go to jail for expressing a different politcal viewpoint. Is that right too?
 
Oh, and one last thing....

I totally get what CelticP is saying about his parents trusting him. My parents were exactly the same way. They had the talks with me about drugs and alcohol. It's what made me a responsible human being. Because of my sense of responsibility, I know my limits and even knew them as a teenager. It doesn't mean I never drank or did anything irresponsible... I just knew the limits to which I could go without putting myself or others around me in too much danger.

Drugs and alcohol aren't going to go away. They are something that your teenage child WILL be faced with, no matter what. If you drink occasionally, and had the occasional drink in high school, how on earth can you NOT feel like the biggest hypocrite on Earth if you tell your kids not to drink?? And believe me, kids aren't stupid, they will see through your hypocrisy right away. (same with drug use - my friend's mom was a druggie as a teen and told her NOT to do anything, even pot, or she'd get kicked out of the house... needless to say, my friend got kicked out of her house)

I have a son now. And I say this with all honesty and I will try my hardest to uphold it when the teenage years come around.... Kids need to be free to make their own mistakes. Yeah, it only takes one major mistake to end a life, but most of the time it doesn't come to that - there's usually a build-up and warning signs before that happens (at least with drugs/alchohol - car accidents, on the other hand, scare the crap out of me because they come out of nowhere!). The best we can do as parents is to educate them about the things they will be confronted with and let them make their own choices. We need to be there to pick up the pieces and talk it over with them if they fall... not to say 'I told you so' but to say 'I understand... now, how are you going to handle this from now on?' But they also need to LEARN from those mistakes. If they keep making the same mistakes and they're not learning, then it's time to get a little tougher.

Now, if you really did avoid ALL drinking and all drug use in your teenage years, preach away... but don't be surprised if your kid comes home drunk one night... it's how you deal with it at that point that helps or hinders the future outcome. If you go into a rage, guaranteed that your teenager will be getting drunk a lot more often than otherwise. At least in our family, light teasing and embarrassment went a LOT farther than rage! I was very keen to avoid the embarrassment, so I just didn't do it again :lol Rage, on the other hand, tempts a lot of teens, especially if their parents are the type that just don't pay attention to them unless they are mad about something.

Ah, parenting - it's so important but so hard to do well!!

BTW, I highly recommend this book to anyone with kids:

https://www.nationofwimps.com/
 
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Wise words dusty.

I never drank or did any drugs but all my friends did and they wouldn't let me do drugs. :lol

But I am grateful that I had parents like yours that taught me what what they thought about life and allowed me to make my own choices.
 
Thank you for the condolences. Not trying to be disrespectful but that's about all I can agree on. This is my opinion and mine only. I think to many parents try the softer gentler way of parenting. I go to stores, restaurants and see kids running rough shod through the establishment. Way to often I see young kids actually slap at their parents. Most of the time all you see the parent do is just shrug it off, say "oh well, kids will be kids".

I don't understand Celtics views with his parents. I don't find it acceptable that he TELLS parents that if he feels like it he is going to smoke, drink whatever he tells them, especially if they help him with his hobby. I think your son is pretty young right now, I look forward to updates on how accepting you are going to be with him as he gets more rambuntious as we boys do.

You say you're going to let your son make his own mistakes? Are you going to let him touch a hot stove? Cross a street without looking? Of course not. So why would you let him do stuff like smoking or drinking just because you had a long talk about it. My kids are to old now for spankings (yes, I believe in it)but will not hesitate to take phones, IPODs, outings or whatever it takes to get my point across. I have posted it before but will again. I have 2 daughters 16 and 14 and 2 step-daughters 15 and 12. I am firm with them, but they adore me and I them. I hope your parenting works out for you, but I know what worked for me.

As far as being hypocritical, you're 100 % correct. I parent by "do as I say not as I do". If your son comes up to you at the age of 11 and says he wants to have sex with the 16 yr. old next door, are you going to think "well, I have sex and I'd be a hypocrite to tell him he can't? If so then I may as well not respond anymore, because our parental methods are polar opposites.
 
Drugs and alcohol aren't going to go away. They are something that your teenage child WILL be faced with, no matter what. If you drink occasionally, and had the occasional drink in high school, how on earth can you NOT feel like the biggest hypocrite on Earth if you tell your kids not to drink?? And believe me, kids aren't stupid, they will see through your hypocrisy right away. (same with drug use - my friend's mom was a druggie as a teen and told her NOT to do anything, even pot, or she'd get kicked out of the house... needless to say, my friend got kicked out of her house)
I can tell my kid these things and not be a hypocrite. Now they are free to buy their underage friends cigarettes if they want them. I did that all the time.:lol:lol:lol
 
Thank you for the condolences. Not trying to be disrespectful but that's about all I can agree on. This is my opinion and mine only. I think to many parents try the softer gentler way of parenting. I go to stores, restaurants and see kids running rough shod through the establishment. Way to often I see young kids actually slap at their parents. Most of the time all you see the parent do is just shrug it off, say "oh well, kids will be kids".

I don't understand Celtics views with his parents. I don't find it acceptable that he TELLS parents that if he feels like it he is going to smoke, drink whatever he tells them, especially if they help him with his hobby. I think your son is pretty young right now, I look forward to updates on how accepting you are going to be with him as he gets more rambuntious as we boys do.

You say you're going to let your son make his own mistakes? Are you going to let him touch a hot stove? Cross a street without looking? Of course not. So why would you let him do stuff like smoking or drinking just because you had a long talk about it. My kids are to old now for spankings (yes, I believe in it)but will not hesitate to take phones, IPODs, outings or whatever it takes to get my point across. I have posted it before but will again. I have 2 daughters 16 and 14 and 2 step-daughters 15 and 12. I am firm with them, but they adore me and I them. I hope your parenting works out for you, but I know what worked for me.

As far as being hypocritical, you're 100 % correct. I parent by "do as I say not as I do". If your son comes up to you at the age of 11 and says he wants to have sex with the 16 yr. old next door, are you going to think "well, I have sex and I'd be a hypocrite to tell him he can't? If so then I may as well not respond anymore, because our parental methods are polar opposites.

Making mistakes is a part of life. Yes, you should let your son touch a hot stove, so that in the future, he never ever will again.

My parents trust me. But they know I shouldnt just not have a social life because kids do what kids do. My parents understand this. They cant follow me everywhere, and are giving me the freedom to become the best person possible. Doesnt mean they wont punish me if I ^^^^ up. Which is a part of life.
 
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