Legalizing Marijuana

[ProgMatinee]

Out of curiousity, do most people with prescriptions also fall into the "culture"? Ie enjoy the hippy conotation, the head shops, etc?

Medical marijuana is fairly recently legal in Colorado and the big argument for it was obviously that it helps people in pain. To me its obvious by the fact that dispenceries have to resort to the iconic leaf symbolism and the head shop type advertisement that "medical" use was just a ploy to get the drug into the door so that widespread legalization could become the next move.

If pot was truly being used for medical purposes, wouldn't the advertisements in the papers (especially the popculture papers like Westword, etc) be more businesslike, like a dentist office or chiropractor instead of how a vinyl shop on Santa Cruz beach would advertise?

Why is pot socially different to a patient than any other type of drug that it needs to resort to a different type of advertisement?

 

[Shatterer of Dreams]

Out of curiousity, do most people with prescriptions also fall into the "culture"? Ie enjoy the hippy conotation, the head shops, etc?

Medical marijuana is fairly recently legal in Colorado and the big argument for it was obviously that it helps people in pain. To me its obvious by the fact that dispenceries have to resort to the iconic leaf symbolism and the head shop type advertisement that "medical" use was just a ploy to get the drug into the door so that widespread legalization could become the next move.

If pot was truly being used for medical purposes, wouldn't the advertisements in the papers (especially the popculture papers like Westword, etc) be more businesslike, like a dentist office or chiropractor instead of how a vinyl shop on Santa Cruz beach would advertise?

yeah, that's one of those things isn't it? when dispensaries first opened they were indiscript and those shops are still out there, but as scripts have become more widespread the "culture" part has started to take over.

i'd say that some places are there to serve the clients that are in pain and really need it and the some places are there to make a buck and finally some places are there to push the legalize agenda.

again as with anything it's not a black and white issue with a black and white answer. there is some legitimate good being done but there are also others that see the money that can be made.

as i've said in a previous post, i don't like the culture part, i like to smoke my pot and i support it being legal but i'm not gonna support high times or any of that other crap that glorifies the stupid - though some stoner movies can be funny.

 

[ProgMatinee]

Thanks...I can't say I look for the straight forward advertisements for pot, but I sure notice the ones that have weed symbols and font and pictures that look like Roger Dean drew them.

 

[hoodonit00]

Damn strait.

Yea but my point is is that most people can have 2 or 3 or more drinks and be perfectly fine where as most people will smoke 1 joint and be loopy. That's why I can't put them in the same category.

 

[Shatterer of Dreams]

well most people do not smoke an entire joint to themselves, that is pretty excessive. but still you should not drive if you are inebriated in any way, this includes pot or 2 to 3 drinks of any kind of alcohol. it's just not worth it.

 

[Jen]

well most people do not smoke an entire joint to themselves, that is pretty excessive. but still you should not drive if you are inebriated in any way, this includes pot or 2 to 3 drinks of any kind of alcohol. it's just not worth it.

I agree. I would never drive if I had 2 drinks or more and I never drove when I smoked pot. When I used to smoke, I just hung out at home and watched movies or played video games. Definitely didn't make me want to go out and be social or really even leave my house.

For me, pot was something I did on my own...whereas drinking was always a more social thing. I would never drink alone...but usually always smoked alone. Don't know what that means.

 

[ProgMatinee]

it actually takes me A LOT of work with alcohol to get to the point where I have trouble doing certain tasks such as working on an excel spreadsheet, making coffee or something. Several hours worth of drinking. Unless I had like 4 or more shots or drank 12 beers I could probably handle some a minor incident, such as putting out a fire from a candle that tipped over.
Realisticly, how fast would pot knock someone out of it?

 

[FLOSI]

Yea but my point is is that most people can have 2 or 3 or more drinks and be perfectly fine where as most people will smoke 1 joint and be loopy. That's why I can't put them in the same category.

One joint, at least to me, contains enough pot to cause a high that would be much greater than 2-3 drinks. Hard to really compare the amount of one v. another. I will say this though, 2-3 drinks within an hour would be enough to get someone a DUI so those drinks are just as bad and irresponsible when combined with driving as said joint, even if it's a couple of hits or the entire thing.

 

[Jen]

it actually takes me A LOT of work with alcohol to get to the point where I have trouble doing certain tasks such as working on an excel spreadsheet, making coffee or something. Several hours worth of drinking. Unless I had like 4 or more shots or drank 12 beers I could probably handle some a minor incident, such as putting out a fire from a candle that tipped over.
Realisticly, how fast would pot knock someone out of it?

There are several factors to consider - the better the quality of the weed, the stronger the high will be. And some people do build a tolerance, especially if they only smoke one type of weed. But it seems the concensus, is 1-2 hits gets people high.

Now I wouldn't say so high that they are incapable of also putting out a fire from a tipped over candle. Most people can function well when stoned (Still should never drive though) - and I know people who get incredibly motivated and will clean or do yardwork when high. So different people have different reactions and different strains of pot have different effects.

 

[pixletwin]

... - and I know people who get incredibly motivated and will clean or do yardwork when high. .

Was it laced with pcp?

 

[Jen]

Was it laced with pcp?

No. My roomate and I would smoke together (this was gosh around 10 years ago) - she would start cleaning and organizing stuff...I would have the opposite effect and just want to veg out.

So it's interesting how it affects people differently, even when smoking the same strain.

 

[FLOSI]

Was it laced with pcp?

Common misconception about pot is that it makes people lazy. Like Jen said, depending on the strain it can do just the opposite. My favorite thing to do after I smoke? Go to the park with some buddies and play soccer for about 4 hours. Give us a goal with a net and we may never come home.

Many NBA players smoke before games...

 

[Shatterer of Dreams]

there are daytime and nightime pot, sounds weird but it's true.

 

[FLOSI]

there are daytime and nightime pot, sounds weird but it's true.

Just like wine.. If you want to chill and have a few glasses you're not going to choose a big robust Cab. That goes better with dinner. A Zin or Pinot are lighter and fruitier, making for a better casual drink.

 

[Bodie The Cursed]

pot doesnt make me lazy, it makes me want to do household chores I normally don't want to do..

 

[FLOSI]

pot doesnt make me lazy, it makes me want to do household chores I normally don't want to do..

My wife likes the fact that I'll fold clothes. I like the way they smell when I take them out of the dryer

 

[Bodie The Cursed]

laundry becomes enjoyable.. i do the same..

 

[Shatterer of Dreams]

me too, i will totally clean house when stoned. this may be a bad phrase but pot will make me tweek on a project. it's also really good before i dj.

 

[buzzybean]

Pot stinks and so does tobacco. I hate the smell of both. It's gross. I can't believe it took us so long to ban smoking in restaurants. Now I'll have to smell my neighbors party too?

There's my argument.

And why doesn't anyone ever complain about all the cig butts people litter the streets with? Nothing grosser then a 7-11 parking lot.

BB

 

[jonny88]

No. My roomate and I would smoke together (this was gosh around 10 years ago) - she would start cleaning and organizing stuff...I would have the opposite effect and just want to veg out.

So it's interesting how it affects people differently, even when smoking the same strain.

if l smoke l get lazy and want to go to sleep.then l cant sleep if l try.