Legendary Pictures' GODZILLA - !!SPOILERS!!

[JAWS]

That is such a lazy and uninspiring monster design, just like what the Muto might be.

Elementary school kids could illustrate a better monster.

What monster are you talking about???

 

[jye4ever]

The building models used during the helicopter chase look so bad today.

 

[jye4ever]

What monster are you talking about???

That cartoon Muto like creature MF posted.

 

[JAWS]

That cartoon Muto like creature MF posted.

Oh... I don't mind them. They do look a bit like the Cloverfield monster so I guess I am giving them a pass.

 

[jye4ever]

I enjoyed the CF movie, but the actual monster design was more lame than bad ***.

 

[Viking Spawn]

Here it is:

"That is one big pile of ****."

 

[JAWS]

I enjoyed the CF movie, but the actual monster design was more lame than bad ***.

I actually liked it. It was very different.

 

[JAWS]

Well different until I saw the G cartoon monsters

 

[MaulFan]

I enjoyed the CF movie, but the actual monster design was more lame than bad ***.

I loved the scenes of the military trying to combat the monster, it felt very helpless and the filming style and everything felt very intense, I actually hope the military scenes in the new Godzilla will feel equally intense and hopeless.

Read this interesting bit from an article here https://kaijubattle.blogspot.com/2014/03/warner-bros-prepares-monster-sized-hit.html

One of the problems with TriStar's Godzilla was that it used Godzilla as an obstacle to be overcome, with the main focus being on how the human characters dealt with the creature and survived the encounter. Shusuke Kaneko, director of the "Gamera" trilogy, commented at the time that Americans "seem unable to accept a creature that cannot be put down by their arms" due to the fact that the creature in the 1998 film "runs about trying to escape missiles."

I think this sums up where G98 and Toho's creation are so separated. Godzilla was born out of fear of something no human could escape, but G98 was designed as a creature that would just be troublesome and challenging, but not impossible, and sadly, I agree that comes a bit out of American ego that we can face anything and beat it.

I love that this new movie is going back to the perspective that there are some things you just can't conquer, no matter how hard you try, and sometimes trying even makes things worse.

 

[G-M53]

I really like Cloverfield a lot myself. Both the movie and the creature. My only gripe is I just don't like most of the characters in it. Heh.

 

[MaulFan]

Godzilla: The Series complete DVD collection coming in April

https://www.scifijapan.com/articles...a-the-series-on-dvd-from-mill-creek-in-april/

Only $15 too, that's awesome.

 

[jye4ever]

I loved the scenes of the military trying to combat the monster, it felt very helpless and the filming style and everything felt very intense, I actually hope the military scenes in the new Godzilla will feel equally intense and hopeless.

Read this interesting bit from an article here https://kaijubattle.blogspot.com/2014/03/warner-bros-prepares-monster-sized-hit.html



I think this sums up where G98 and Toho's creation are so separated. Godzilla was born out of fear of something no human could escape, but G98 was designed as a creature that would just be troublesome and challenging, but not impossible, and sadly, I agree that comes a bit out of American ego that we can face anything and beat it.

I love that this new movie is going back to the perspective that there are some things you just can't conquer, no matter how hard you try, and sometimes trying even makes things worse.

Yeah, that was one of the best scenes from the movie, very intense like you said, loved the tank firing, soldiers yelling and then the monsters face coming into view from the dark, I had a big grin on my face.

It was refreshing seeing a giant monster movie made that way, minus the shaky cam of course.

Hopefully G2014 takes that from Cloverfield then blows it away by achieving a new level of greatness not seen before in a giant monster movie.

I really want my socks blown off, I want it to shake the established foundation down to the core and be a beacon for others to follow.

 

[Biojex]

Godzilla needs to be that "just get out of it's way" monster

 

[jye4ever]

Yup, like a keep on walking t-shirt.

 

[JAWS]

I loved the scenes of the military trying to combat the monster, it felt very helpless and the filming style and everything felt very intense, I actually hope the military scenes in the new Godzilla will feel equally intense and hopeless.

Read this interesting bit from an article here https://kaijubattle.blogspot.com/2014/03/warner-bros-prepares-monster-sized-hit.html



I think this sums up where G98 and Toho's creation are so separated. Godzilla was born out of fear of something no human could escape, but G98 was designed as a creature that would just be troublesome and challenging, but not impossible, and sadly, I agree that comes a bit out of American ego that we can face anything and beat it.

I love that this new movie is going back to the perspective that there are some things you just can't conquer, no matter how hard you try, and sometimes trying even makes things worse.

I LOVED that scene with the military also.... I got so excited by that when I first saw it in the theater... I turned to all my friends and said... "I freaking love this movie" It reminded me of a Godzilla film. I was in heaven.

As far as Americans not being able to handle fighting a monster we can't put down... Well that might have been true until Cloverfield... We could not stop him/her. We dropped the Bomb at the end but we don't know if it worked or not.

We also have different unstopable monsters (Jason, Freddy, etc.. ) they are just not Giants.

So I disagree with the Gamera director... American Godzilla was the way it was because it was given over to a couple of idiots who have bad ideas and don't make very good films.

I don't think it has to do with ego either... I think Hollywood thinks we all want happy endings to our films... But there are those stories out there where we don't win by our own hand (War of the Worlds, Dawn of the Dead, Cloverfield, Planet of the Apes )

Godzilla: The Series complete DVD collection coming in April

https://www.scifijapan.com/articles...a-the-series-on-dvd-from-mill-creek-in-april/

Only $15 too, that's awesome.

Thats cool. I will buy it again for my kids as it will be much better quality.

 

[GodzillaSpawn]

I think timing had a lot to do with it. It was Post-9/11 America and it seemed like every turn we made we were met with the message that American military overcomes all. Sure, the actual attacks were 7 years prior but the war was obviously still going on and Hollywood probably felt like audiences were desiring more of that rah-rah patriotic boost in the movies. Emmerich/Devlin also seem to feel that that is how American audiences want their films to end.

But, I think often times, we crave those dark endings. Something that stands out. Something tragic. With Godzilla, that's relatively easy to achieve at this point because either Godzilla dies and the fans feel bad for the monster or he "wins" at the expense of the humans. And after watching Edwards' "Monsters", it's easy for me to see how thin that line can be. Afterall, that film builds sympathy for a monster in ONE scene after leading you to believe it was this terrible beast the entire film. Obviously, Godzilla should be handled a bit differently because he should be a terrible beast and an asskicker.

I watched "The Mist" last night in black and white for the first time in a couple years. What an ending. That's what stands out to me these days.

By the way, I thought I read somewhere that the film confirms that the Cloverfield monster was killed in the nuke?

EDIT: Yup, Abrams makes it very clear...

https://cloverfieldclues.blogspot.com/2008/05/cloverfield-is-dead-long-live.html

EDIT: Yup, Abrams makes it pretty clear.

 

[jnmx2000]

Godzilla: The Series complete DVD collection coming in April

https://www.scifijapan.com/articles...a-the-series-on-dvd-from-mill-creek-in-april/

Only $15 too, that's awesome.

The whole series is on netflix, I've watched something like the first 25 or so episodes. It is fun cartoon and they capture the protector godzilla aspect pretty well in the show.

 

[Centurion]

That is such a lazy and uninspiring monster design, just like what the Muto might be.

Elementary school kids could illustrate a better monster.

 

[RIDDICK]

Exactly!

 

[Centurion]

LOL!