Legendary Pictures' GODZILLA - !!SPOILERS!!

[JAWS]

<-----TLC, ROTLA, TOD

Awful....... Just.... Awful.... You are a bad, bad man Josh...

But I do believe you have finally come to your senses about KOTCS.

 

[jye4ever]

I don't think the part in bold means what you think it means... People were not expecting a transformers movie... They were expecting a very serious, dark, and apocalyptic film. Watch the trailers again.... They advertise a much different film.




They weren't bad.... Just boring. I don't blame the actors... They just were not given much to work with. ATJ was good when he had someone to play against. His wife, his father, the little Asian boy. But most of the film he had nobody of interest to talk to. That led to his character being very boring. His wife suffered the same problem. Ken W. had people to act against but he was just as wooden as ATJ.





Again I say if you fill the film with engaging characters then nobody would complain that It was slow. Some would... Of course. But that is going to happen with every film.



I did not even think the film really had "boring" parts... There was plenty of monsters throughout the whole film. But the characters being dull hurt the movie.

Let me put it this way... The most exciting part of the film was the beginning with Bryan c and his wife.... No monsters to be seen. Just characters that we were able to quickly identify with... No Godzilla but more exciting then the whole final monster battle. Give us Characters we care about and nobody would be complaining of a boring movie.

Now... I might still complain that the Godzilla film we got was not the Godzilla film advertised.... But with great characters I would have easily overlooked that.

Some get confused with our problem with the movie.

Do you get frustrated with most movies then??? Most of Hollywood are "Beautiful" people.

PS - I would not call Hud a model



It was the high point of found footage... Even more so then Blair Witch IMO...

For me personally it is too well crafted of a film to be called a "novelty" movie.

But I get that many hate the handheld style of film.... I don't blame any of you... But this film is the exception to the rule IMO.

I also didn't have a problem with their looks.

Just because we're all ugly as hell does it mean there aren't plenty of good looking people out there.

25 Million is not a lot of money for a film that was as large in scope as this one was. If this was done a more traditional level it would have cost a lot more. I thought it looked like every penny was spent and put on screen. Unlike Blair Witch which somehow cost $60,000 to make.

The point was the "you are there" style. That is what the film makers were going for. Personally I had no trouble following the action and appreciated the first person perspective.

But it did not work for everyone which I get.

Cloverfield delivered plenty with their budget.

Although BWP made a huge profit on their little investment.

 

[jye4ever]

Awful....... Just.... Awful.... You are a bad, bad man Josh...

But I do believe you have finally come to your senses about KOTCS.

Josh loves destroying my soul with that choice.

 

[Rorywan]

<-----TLC, ROTLA, TOD

Are you out of your freaking biscuit?

 

[jye4ever]

Josh's picnic basket is lacking biscuits.

 

[MaulFan]

TLC > ROTLA = Final Wars > Gojira

 

[jye4ever]

 

[Rorywan]

Do you get frustrated with most movies then??? Most of Hollywood are "Beautiful" people.

No I don't. Just the ones whose very concept is based on bring as realistic as possible and then we go to a party that looks like it's from Friends.

 

[RIDDICK]

TLC > ROTLA = Final Wars > Gojira

Nope, not at all.

ROTLA < TLC = G84 < G89

 

[JAWS]

Some get confused with our problem with the movie.

Must be... I keep trying to explain it though...

I also didn't have a problem with their looks.

Just because we're all ugly as hell does it mean there aren't plenty of good looking people out there.

Yeah... I had no problem with how they looked and actually did not give it a second thought.

Cloverfield delivered plenty with their budget.

Although BWP made a huge profit on their little investment

Yes Blair Witch did. I actually like Blair Witch a lot also.... I tend to enjoy many of those handheld films.... Even though most of the time I ***** about them LOL.

 

[tylerdurden]

I don't think the part in bold means what you think it means... People were not expecting a transformers movie... They were expecting a very serious, dark, and apocalyptic film. Watch the trailers again.... They advertise a much different film.

They weren't bad.... Just boring. I don't blame the actors... They just were not given much to work with. ATJ was good when he had someone to play against. His wife, his father, the little Asian boy. But most of the film he had nobody of interest to talk to. That led to his character being very boring. His wife suffered the same problem. Ken W. had people to act against but he was just as wooden as ATJ.

Again I say if you fill the film with engaging characters then nobody would complain that It was slow. Some would... Of course. But that is going to happen with every film. I did not even think the film really had "boring" parts... There was plenty of monsters throughout the whole film. But the characters being dull hurt the movie.

Let me put it this way... The most exciting part of the film was the beginning with Bryan c and his wife.... No monsters to be seen. Just characters that we were able to quickly identify with... No Godzilla but more exciting then the whole final monster battle. Give us Characters we care about and nobody would be complaining of a boring movie.

no, i know exactly what it means. those aspects you mentioned: "a very serious, dark and apocalyptic film" are pretty much the film as advertised. it was very serious, it was dark, both literally and figuratively, and the mass destruction, tsunamis, etc did give it a somewhat apocalyptic feel. what WASN'T as advertised is that people were expecting a slam-bang non-stop roller-coaster of action, which is where my michael bay reference came in. and audiences did not receive that.

and i do not think you quite get what i was saying about the characters but it's ok, i'll clarify here. YOU found them boring/dull, along with many other viewers. to each his/her own. i simply didn't. i liked the whole father-son dynamic, i thought the scientists like watanabe's serizawa were pretty interesting (and what you consider wooden i found to be nicely subtle) and elizabeth olsen's hotness just prevented me from being bored of her. when i said they were perfunctory, that's exactly what it means: they were just there to fulfill a purpose. i can totally understand how some people like yourself may find them dull. but to me they simply weren't. i did care about the characters. aaron taylor-johnson not so much, but even his journey i was emotionally invested in because it was partly a mission of revenge and partly of salvation. i found just enough in the humans to get me by until the "main event".

i think what hurt the film much more so than the "boring characters" was edwards' insistence on teasing us with the monster battles over and over again to breaking point. it got tiresome even for me. and yes, i do know that if the characters were as compelling as in say, jaws or close encounters, we'd have less whining. but at the same time, i feel the whining over this movie also got blown out of proportion.

 

[jye4ever]

But they clearly advertized Godzilla as the bringer of death and fudge brownies.

Hell, they even deliberatly manipulated trailer scenes to make it seem that way.

Ask MaulFan, he won't lie.

I'm suing those *******s for false advertising.

 

[MaulFan]

My expectation for the movie was that the emergence of the mutos would bring Godzilla up fromthe depths and cause havoc on too of fighting the mutos. The halo jump trailer and poster and even the main poster with enlarged Godzilla stop a burning San Francisco made it seem like there would be at least a scene of Godzilla destroying with no purpose. He has no regard for people or property in the movie, but he never just looks at a building and destroys it, even though marketing made it seem otherwise.

 

[jye4ever]

Even after he woke up from his mysterious nap (nuke?), he tip toe back to the water.

This Godzilla was very polite, there's a deleted scene where he helps a grandmother cross the street.

Unless you are a Muto of course, he'll vomit atomic breath down your throat.

 

[MaulFan]

Even Edwards' own quote does not line up with what's in the movie, so if he thinks that's what's in the movie then I guess his vision is off.

 

[JAWS]

no, i know exactly what it means. those aspects you mentioned: "a very serious, dark and apocalyptic film" are pretty much the film as advertised. it was very serious, it was dark, both literally and figuratively, and the mass destruction, tsunamis, etc did give it a somewhat apocalyptic feel. what WASN'T as advertised is that people were expecting a slam-bang non-stop roller-coaster of action, which is where my michael bay reference came in. and audiences did not receive that

.

I have no idea what trailers you watched... Never did they seem they were advertising a M bay non stop action fest. They seemed quite the opposite. In fact I would argue that the film ended up being more Transformer like then it was like the trailers that advertised the film.... Since it was giant beings fighting in a city with one fighting for the side of good and the other fighting for the side of.......... Well.... Family.

You may have grabbed that dark feeling but once I saw Godzilla swimming next to military ships it sort of lost any foreboding feeling and since the Mutos just liked eating atomic Bombs I would argue that Superman would be very found of them in his "Quest for Piece"

Watch the trailers again and look at the Empire covers and tell me they are advertising the movie we saw. Hell the car Commercial even portrayed Godzilla as a bad guy.

Hell the car Commercial even portrayed Godzilla as a bad guy.

and i do not think you quite get what i was saying about the characters but it's ok, i'll clarify here. YOU found them boring/dull, along with many other viewers. to each his/her own. i simply didn't. i liked the whole father-son dynamic, i thought the scientists like watanabe's serizawa were pretty interesting (and what you consider wooden i found to be nicely subtle) and elizabeth olsen's hotness just prevented me from being bored of her. when i said they were perfunctory, that's exactly what it means: they were just there to fulfill a purpose. i can totally understand how some people like yourself may find them dull. but to me they simply weren't. i did care about the characters. aaron taylor-johnson not so much, but even his journey i was emotionally invested in because it was partly a mission of revenge and partly of salvation. i found just enough in the humans to get me by until the "main event".

So were they there just to fulfill a purpose... or were they interesting?? I guess it could be both... But when even you say "The characters were just there to fulfill a purpose" you sort of prove my point.... Perfunctory - "carried out with a minimum of effort or reflection" you definition of these characters.. Not mine... But I do agree 100%.

I should say that I was not attacking you point of view on the film.... I was just stating that those of us who were frustrated with the film were not feeling that way because it was not a balls to the wall action but because it lacked interesting characters (Not for you but for those who did not like it) and that it did not fulfill the promise of what type of movie it was going to be from the trailers and advertising.

i think what hurt the film much more so than the "boring characters" was edwards' insistence on teasing us with the monster battles over and over again to breaking point. it got tiresome even for me. and yes, i do know that if the characters were as compelling as in say, jaws or close encounters, we'd have less whining. but at the same time, i feel the whining over this movie also got blown out of proportion

My friend said the other day he would have liked the film better had the final battle come along and it really kicked ***.... But that he could not really remember anything about the fight other then the final kill. I kinda agree. The final Battle was cool to look at but with no sense of danger it fell a bit flat. Because Godzilla was never developed as a character... Remember he just showed up... No one seemed to give him much thought... and he almost seemed like a military pet with his swing along with the boats. Add to the fact that they made the "Bad" monsters just misunderstood and you have a pretty... meh... Fight. Give us a reason to cheer for Godzilla as a character... make him an underdog... Do something to invest me in the film other then taking our favorite monster and sticking him in a movie and figure that is good enough.

Now this is of course my opinion and I am happy that some enjoyed it... The fact that people enjoyed it gives us a chance to see a second film... I hope they invest in the characters a bit more and give Godzilla some history or background. Make him a little more interesting.

As far as the teasing goes... In some films it works... With Godzilla... I am not so sure. I did not mind it but I knew it was coming. I actually liked the tease at the airport and thought the fight we saw on TV was actually more interesting then much of the final battle. But it all comes back to the "perfunctory" characters... So little effort was spent on them I just wanted to look at CGI monsters... Who showed much more emotion then most of the cast.

 

[JAWS]

My expectation for the movie was that the emergence of the mutos would bring Godzilla up fromthe depths and cause havoc on too of fighting the mutos. The halo jump trailer and poster and even the main poster with enlarged Godzilla stop a burning San Francisco made it seem like there would be at least a scene of Godzilla destroying with no purpose. He has no regard for people or property in the movie, but he never just looks at a building and destroys it, even though marketing made it seem otherwise.

He seemed pretty carful at the golden gate bridge. He was tenderly touching it when he first rose up.. He also shared a moment with ATJ lol... Of course his size means he can't be too careful.

But I agree... I thought he would be the lesser of two evils and we would see Godzilla Mess some stuff up.

Even Edwards' own quote does not line up with what's in the movie, so if he thinks that's what's in the movie then I guess his vision is off.

What film is Edwards talking about... Godzilla is a Punishment for our sins?? Seems like he was Savior for them.

 

[JAWS]

My expectation for the movie was that the emergence of the mutos would bring Godzilla up fromthe depths and cause havoc on too of fighting the mutos. The halo jump trailer and poster and even the main poster with enlarged Godzilla stop a burning San Francisco made it seem like there would be at least a scene of Godzilla destroying with no purpose. He has no regard for people or property in the movie, but he never just looks at a building and destroys it, even though marketing made it seem otherwise.

Maulfan.... did you get to see this?? I must have missed that somewhere... Is the baby here yet?? What is going on???

 

[jye4ever]

Damn, everytime i've decided that I enjoyed Godzilla, jAWS comes along and ****s it all up for me.

The 2nd week was a huge drop so here's hoping the studios heard the very valid complaints.

 

[MaulFan]

Maulfan.... did you get to see this?? I must have missed that somewhere... Is the baby here yet?? What is going on???

No to everything, just a lot of waiting