LOST discussion - thar be spoilers ahead!

[Nuka Cola Kidd]

I agree with all of that.


I feel sorry for those who feel like they waisted 6 years of there life on the greatest show to grace the small screen/the best show of the decade/ the greatest show that there ever will be, this show.

Fixed it for you maglor.

Oh and I agree 100% LOST has had the best writing team Ive seen in a show in the history of tv. The only thing that comes close is Fringe. JJ just knows how to do things.

 

[pixletwin]

Am I the only person who gets the feeling that JJ (outside of the pilot) really had almost nothing to do with LOST except having his name on it every week?

 

[Maglor]

Fixed it for you maglor.

Oh and I agree 100% LOST has had the best writing team Ive seen in a show in the history of tv. The only thing that comes close is Fringe. JJ just knows how to do things.

And yes, FRINGE rules.

Am I the only person who gets the feeling that JJ (outside of the pilot) really had almost nothing to do with LOST except having his name on it every week?

In terms of writing, yes. But wasn't he a Producer?

 

[SwedishHeat]

Am I the only person who gets the feeling that JJ (outside of the pilot) really had almost nothing to do with LOST except having his name on it every week?

Yeah, pretty much. It's like that for a lot of producers. They just come up with the idea and have somebody else execute the plan.

 

[DCM81]

First of all don't get me wrong - I loved Lost. All six years, but I was definately dissapointed by the big finale....once again don't get me wrong; it was well written, brilliantly acted and very emotional (yeah I got teared up a couple of times).
I still felt cheated in a way. The whole time I was watching the show my interpretation of it as a whole was that it's a mytery series.

Granted it's a lot about the characters but that is a necessity for any story for without good characters anything else just seems bland and meaningless. But the bottom line is that this really was a mystery series for six years and when the final episode came along it felt like, IMO, it could (or should) have been for an entirely different show

Like I said I loved the show as a whole but the ending was not what I expected or had hoped for.

 

[Moonloop]

Now that I reflect, the only thing I didn't like about LOST or that made me feel 'cheated' was the flash sideways.

It just seemed out of place and really in the end the flash sideways didn't mean a thing to the story as a whole. Whereas any flashbacks or flash forwards from season 1-5 were actually developing the story of these characters, the flash sideways was a dreamworld; not a reality that had an impact on the true lives of these people. If the writers really wanted to do the flash sideways, I think that is something that could have been done, summed up or mentioned in one or two episodes....not waste an entire season on it.

Instead of the flash sideways, Season 6 I believe should have had been flashbacks/mythology of the island and even possibly flash forwards of the lives of those off the island (imagine if they did some flash forwards, and there was an episode of Ben and Hurley running around doing things that at the time seemed random and confusing to the viewer, only then in the season finale do we learn that Hurley and Ben become the new #1 and #2 of the island and the tasks they were doing off island was a result of there new found glory).

Some might argue that flashbacks and flash forwards were already done enough, but I think most would have been happier with that then with the flash sideways. But the writers wanted the ultimate conclusion of the characters' stories, and they felt that the flash sideways/afterlife story would give that conclusion to the characters.

 

[DCM81]

While flashbacks and flash forwards were done by the truckload it was an integral part of the show and more often than not also added to some of the confusion and mystery that i loved about the show.

To end the way it did was probably the best way to conclude the story for the characters I'll admit that but, although Locke was a phenomenally great character (obviously my favourite losty , IMO the biggest or most important "character" of the show was the island itself!

Thinking about your idea of a possible flash forward showing Ben & Hurley running the island......it would have been great to know who killed Hurley. Based on continuity; Jacob & MIBs mother didn't age and MIB killed her. Jacob didn't age and was obviously never going to die of natural causes. Even Richard could not even kill himself after Jacob gave him everlasting life. All had to be killed by another to die sooooooo....... when Hurley became the new protector of the island he would accordingly, also never die unless he was killed by someone. It must have happened otherwise he could not have joined the others in the church. But the biggest mystery there is who in their right mind would ever want to kill such a lovable guy like Hurley?!?!?

 

[Maglor]

Rather than compose a long winded response, I'm gonna take the lazy way out and quote this post as a response to the above discussion:

I feel like I got a coherent story. I got the story of a bunch of people who got caught up in a massive mythology that they never fully understood. I saw how it effected those people, what some of their roles were, how it changed them, and the broad strokes of why it happened.

I like the fact that it's not all unexplained. It's about the unexplained, what people do when they don't have the answers.
I love that even their "fate" is really just the result of an evolving tradition being carried out by a series of flawed people who also don't have the answers. I think that is ballsy and brilliant and WAY more interesting than explaining that God or aliens or Mother Nature placed the magical light in the island.

I agree with the writers - there would have been no organic way to answer all of the questions and most of them are beside the point (the point being Who Are They, Why Are They Here and What Will Happen to Them). I don't understand the need for specific explanations of how everything mentioned came to be, or midichlorian-like definitions of faith or sci-fi concepts. I don't understand how that brings satisfaction.

I had a theory about why women couldn't have children on the island. I watched the epilogue and my theory was wrong. Either way, it had zero impact on the story. Juliette Burke was put on the island because they had a problem. The story wasn't about that problem, it was about what happens to Juliette.
Jack had to be convinced. John Locke had to believe. Those traits took them places. Some were better than others.
Scary monster and polar bears = bonus.


I'm not saying I'm right. I'm just saying I was watching the right show for me. I didn't want it to be anything, I just liked what it was.

 

[DCM81]

I guess I just had very specific expectations of what it should be but I also realize that's a pretty sure fire way to set yourself up for a disappointment. I'm also one of those shallow types that likes to have everything explained in minute detail ;-)

 

[Moonloop]

Thinking about your idea of a possible flash forward showing Ben & Hurley running the island......it would have been great to know who killed Hurley. Based on continuity; Jacob & MIBs mother didn't age and MIB killed her. Jacob didn't age and was obviously never going to die of natural causes. Even Richard could not even kill himself after Jacob gave him everlasting life. All had to be killed by another to die sooooooo....... when Hurley became the new protector of the island he would accordingly, also never die unless he was killed by someone. It must have happened otherwise he could not have joined the others in the church. But the biggest mystery there is who in their right mind would ever want to kill such a lovable guy like Hurley?!?!?

But once one gives the power up don't they forfeit all their powers? Jacob doesn't count cause he died and passed the torch after he died, but Mother made Jacob the protector and we honestly did not see her long enough to determine if she would age after passing the torch. Jack died after making Hurley the protector, so we didn't get to see if he would age. But my guess is that Hurley would eventually get sick and tired of his job as the Island's protector thus he would make someone else the protector, and in doing so he would lose his powers (part of those being immortality and the ability not too age). So in turn he would then start aging and eventually die of natural causes.

 

[Maglor]

^^^I agree.

 

[Calcifer]

Lost is over guys..

 

[Maglor]

 

[SwedishHeat]

Speaking of, did anyone else catch Jorge Garcia on How I Met Your Mother?? It was a very 'meta' role. One of the characters asked for numbers to dial a random phone number and he runs up and says "4 8 15 16 23 42" then later on at Thanksgiving dinner, he remarks something like "It felt like I was on that island for an eternity".

He wasn't playing Hurley, he was supposed to be an old friend of one of the lead characters. I guess those lines were supposed to be winks at the audience, but it was more or less, stupid.

 

[DCM81]

But once one gives the power up don't they forfeit all their powers? Jacob doesn't count cause he died and passed the torch after he died, but Mother made Jacob the protector and we honestly did not see her long enough to determine if she would age after passing the torch. Jack died after making Hurley the protector, so we didn't get to see if he would age. But my guess is that Hurley would eventually get sick and tired of his job as the Island's protector thus he would make someone else the protector, and in doing so he would lose his powers (part of those being immortality and the ability not too age). So in turn he would then start aging and eventually die of natural causes.

Lost is over guys..

You've got a point there creeper.

Yeah I know it's over but for us oh so priveledged germans it's only been over for 2 weeks.

 

[YoNoSe]

Hey remember that vinyl Bad Robot figure some of us were scouring the internet for info on? Well, forget it!

https://www.qmxonline.com/bad-robot/

 

[Rock83]

I miss the discussions about everything around Lost

 

[Maglor]

Hey remember that vinyl Bad Robot figure some of us were scouring the internet for info on? Well, forget it!

https://www.qmxonline.com/bad-robot/

Nice!

10" and polystone!


Are only the arms articulated?

 

[David Dunn]

There was a time I would have bought this immediately without a second thought just because I heard it a million times after every LOST episode! Thank goodness I came to my senses and saved myself $90!! If only they made a line of LOST statues by Sideshow.....

 

[YoNoSe]

Nice!

10" and polystone!


Are only the arms articulated?

I think it's just a swap out piece with the Slusho cup (like the Sideshow Exclusive would have been ).

Now where's my John Locke Premium Format?