Lucas endorses Obama

[bumblebee]

I also said I think this election sucks didn't I? I don't like either one of them, but I tend to side with Republican's on most "issues" where as Obama is a socialist.

I love how going to his web page is where his info or beliefs are posted as well. Why doesn't he talk about HOW he plans to do any of it? Hell, why doesn't he talk about anything besides "change"? He says a lot w/o really saying anything.

He been talking about what change would mean/look like once he's president. Perhaps if you gave him a chance and listened you might learn something. I'll give you one easy example- Obama will end Bush and McCains war.
Thats the first example of change you can expect....then agian if your a warmonger you might want too see McCain carry on this costly war.

 

[bwills]

Obama appeals because he is not 'owned' by any corporations or lobbyists. He's not been in the system long enough for it to destroy him... yet. Some people view him as the only chance for any type of change in the way politics are played in the U.S. Like JFK, he has youth and charisma and the hope for change behind him. And like JFK, he's at increasingly high risk levels for assassination because of all of those things - thus the armed guards.

hoodonit, it sounds like you've been drinking the mudslinging kool-aid. Have you read said books? I have. They do NOT denounce white people in any way. 2 soundbytes from a minister who has preached to all colors, and holds high level of respect amongst all, including many past presidents and leaders, does not mean Obama is a secret anti-white racist. No, he's not a secret Muslim and no, he's not gonna let terrorists 'win'. He's a politician, just like the rest of 'em (and probably part slime-bag like them too), but he's a great compromiser, a great educator, and a great speaker - something we've had SORELY lacking in a presidency since, I don't even know when... Nixon? JFK?

Anyway, it just seems like a lot of fear and hate is coming out of nowhere. It's quite worrisome

I in no way hate George Bush or John McCain. I just don't think they are good leaders. And that's really what it comes down to, no matter what your party affiliation.

Dusty, with all due respect, Obama comes from the filthiest, most corrupt political machine in the country. Chicago politics are widely considered the standardbearer for political corruption. Obama has the Daly political machine fingerprints all over him, so don't believe for a second that he's an outsider.

As for Obama disliking whites because of his church affiliation, I honestly don't think this is the case. Obama joined that church (which is primarily a black church and preaches Black Liberation Theology) when he started his political career as a means of getting some street cred. He knew it was a way to quickly shore up the black vote.

As for Rev. Wright, he is a radical no doubt and if you believe that the popular sound bites are just a small reflection of who he is, I would kindly disagree. And the fact that this church continues to churn out disgusting sound bites from behind the pulpit tells me it's not the exception to the rule. BTW - if you really want to scare yourself, do some research on Black Liberation Theology. It is truly scary stuff.

There are a lot of things I don't like about McCain and if I vote for him, I'll do it holding my nose. But I certainly won't vote for change for change sake. The "change" I hear Obama talking about scares me to death. More big government, more taxes, more entitlement programs, stifling the economy through trade and cap systems, OMG he scares me....

 

[KitFisto]

He been talking about what change would mean/look like once he's president. Perhaps if you gave him a chance and listened you might learn something. I'll give you one easy example- Obama will end Bush and McCains war.
Thats the first example of change you can expect....then agian if your a warmonger you might want too see McCain carry on this costly war.

It's now McCains war? He started it? I hate this "war" as much as anyone and I want it to end yesterday. I don't agree with McCains stance on this issue at all, but I don't believe that Obama will just up and "end it" either. It's easy to make a million promises before you're elected and then change your tune the second you're sworn in...ask ANY political figure.

 

[KitFisto]

Dusty, with all due respect, Obama comes from the filthiest, most corrupt political machine in the country. Chicago politics are widely considered the standardbearer for political corruption. Obama has the Daly political machine fingerprints all over him, so don't believe for a second that he's an outsider.

As for Obama disliking whites because of his church affiliation, I honestly don't think this is the case. Obama joined that church (which is primarily a black church and preaches Black Liberation Theology) when he started his political career as a means of getting some street cred. He knew it was a way to quickly shore up the black vote.

As for Rev. Wright, he is a radical no doubt and if you believe that the popular sound bites are just a small reflection of who he is, I would kindly disagree. And the fact that this church continues to churn out disgusting sound bites from behind the pulpit tells me it's not the exception to the rule. BTW - if you really want to scare yourself, do some research on Black Liberation Theology. It is truly scary stuff.

There are a lot of things I don't like about McCain and if I vote for him, I'll do it holding my nose. But I certainly won't vote for change for change sake. The "change" I hear Obama talking about scares me to death. More big government, more taxes, more entitlement programs, stifling the economy through trade and cap systems, OMG he scares me....

Very well stated.

 

[bumblebee]

It's now McCains war? He started it? I hate this "war" as much as anyone and I want it to end yesterday. I don't agree with McCains stance on this issue at all, but I don't believe that Obama will just up and "end it" either. It's easy to make a million promises before you're elected and then change your tune the second you're sworn in...ask ANY political figure.

Well ever politican makes promise the cant/wont keep.....but thats politics we all know that but Obama will end the war...it wont be easy W has created a huge mess over there but it will be ended under Obama. It is in part McCains war now...he's now the new head of his party and he has been instep with W on "almost" all phases of the war.

 

[bwills]

Thanks Kit. Glad you're here.

 

[Anzik]

If the Democrats are so much better than Republicans, why does the Democratically controlled congress have lower approval ratings than Bush?
If they are doing such a bang up job, wouldn't there be meaningful legislation instead of more pork barrel spending?
Do Reid and Pelosi do anything but bad mouth Bush and blame him for everything?
Does anyone remember that the Congress approved the war?
Bush is accused of being a warmonger because he ordered the invasion of a country that didn't attack us.
Woodrow Wilson did the same thing.
Roosevelt did the same thing.
Truman did the same thing.
Kennedy did the same thing.
They were all democrats.
Every military expert agrees that a quick withdrawal from Iraq will be disastrous but Obama doesn't care.
Is the world a better place without Saddam Hussein?
Are the Iraqi people better off free than under a tyrant?
What oil have we taken?
What oil did we take from Kuwait? (Same argument was used there.)

Lets look at the issues on the table:
The war
Gas prices
The housing market
Food prices

No one likes war. The point is that we are there. Do we finish it or do we retreat while we are winning? Or do you listen to the press? Everyday the front page read of how many soldiers died. When that number decreased, it got shoved to page 12. The cry was, THE WAR, THE WAR, THE WAR, until the war improved.
Gas prices are controlled by the demand of oil worldwide. What could have been done to prevent this? You need more oil which means more drilling. Who opposed more drilling? Wasn't Bush.

The housing market: Personal responsibility. You should know what you can afford. People gambled that under optimal conditions they could afford these new homes. Well they lost. Why should the rest of us that acted responsibly have to pay for those that didn't? If everyone paid an extra five dollars for clone wars Obi Wan 200 people could have him for free.

Food prices are tied to gas prices and the push for ethanol. Corn feeds people and livestock. When the land used to grow the corn is being used to grow corn for ethanol the prices rise.

I don't see where Bush is to blame.

Personally I think Bush stinks. He certainly isn't conservative, he has overspent like crazy.
I agree with his tax cuts because they result in higher government revenue. When you raise the taxes, those revenues go down. Like getting an hourly raise but then cutting back the amount of hours you can work.

How much hating of Bush is just blaming him for everything?

One more thing. McCain's quote is:
Maybe 100. We’ve been in South Korea… We’ve been in Japan for 60 years, we’ve been in South Korea for 50 years or so. That’d be fine with me, as long as Americans… as long as Americans are not being injured or harmed or wounded or killed. It’s fine with me, I hope it would be fine with you if we maintain a presence in a very volatile part of the world where al Qaeda is training, recruiting, equipping and motivating people every single day.

 

[bumblebee]

If the Democrats are so much better than Republicans, why does the Democratically controlled congress have lower approval ratings than Bush?
If they are doing such a bang up job, wouldn't there be meaningful legislation instead of more pork barrel spending?
Do Reid and Pelosi do anything but bad mouth Bush and blame him for everything?
Does anyone remember that the Congress approved the war?
Bush is accused of being a warmonger because he ordered the invasion of a country that didn't attack us.
Woodrow Wilson did the same thing.
Roosevelt did the same thing.
Truman did the same thing.
Kennedy did the same thing.
They were all democrats.
Every military expert agrees that a quick withdrawal from Iraq will be disastrous but Obama doesn't care.
Is the world a better place without Saddam Hussein?
Are the Iraqi people better off free than under a tyrant?
What oil have we taken?
What oil did we take from Kuwait? (Same argument was used there.)

Lets look at the issues on the table:
The war
Gas prices
The housing market
Food prices

No one likes war. The point is that we are there. Do we finish it or do we retreat while we are winning? Or do you listen to the press? Everyday the front page read of how many soldiers died. When that number decreased, it got shoved to page 12. The cry was, THE WAR, THE WAR, THE WAR, until the war improved.
Gas prices are controlled by the demand of oil worldwide. What could have been done to prevent this? You need more oil which means more drilling. Who opposed more drilling? Wasn't Bush.

The housing market: Personal responsibility. You should know what you can afford. People gambled that under optimal conditions they could afford these new homes. Well they lost. Why should the rest of us that acted responsibly have to pay for those that didn't? If everyone paid an extra five dollars for clone wars Obi Wan 200 people could have him for free.

Food prices are tied to gas prices and the push for ethanol. Corn feeds people and livestock. When the land used to grow the corn is being used to grow corn for ethanol the prices rise.

I don't see where Bush is to blame.

Personally I think Bush stinks. He certainly isn't conservative, he has overspent like crazy.
I agree with his tax cuts because they result in higher government revenue. When you raise the taxes, those revenues go down. Like getting an hourly raise but then cutting back the amount of hours you can work.

How much hating of Bush is just blaming him for everything?

One more thing. McCain's quote is:
Maybe 100. We’ve been in South Korea… We’ve been in Japan for 60 years, we’ve been in South Korea for 50 years or so. That’d be fine with me, as long as Americans… as long as Americans are not being injured or harmed or wounded or killed. It’s fine with me, I hope it would be fine with you if we maintain a presence in a very volatile part of the world where al Qaeda is training, recruiting, equipping and motivating people every single day.

Clearly the posting of someone who hasnt had a loved one killed in Iraq.

Lose someone close to you then get back to me on how you feel about W's war.

 

[Anzik]

My father fought in WWII
My brother Jim in Viet Nam
I didn't pass my physical in '87 because of asthma or I would have been in desert storm.
I have a nephew that just did 4 tours in Iraq.
And I have been to 2 funerals of soldiers that died there.
So don't be so condescending.



Why is reenlistment up so high if these soldiers hate what they are doing?

 

[bumblebee]

My father fought in WWII
My brother Jim in Viet Nam
I didn't pass my physical in '87 because of asthma or I would have been in desert storm.
I have a nephew that just did 4 tours in Iraq.
And I have been to 2 funerals of soldiers that died there.
So don't be so condescending.



Why is reenlistment up so high if these soldiers hate what they are doing?

Lost my step brother in Iraq
Lost a cousin in Iraq

I'm not being condescending.


Oh and reenlistment isnt high infact I believe its at a alltime low.

 

[EVILFACE]

It's now McCains war? He started it? I hate this "war" as much as anyone and I want it to end yesterday. I don't agree with McCains stance on this issue at all, but I don't believe that Obama will just up and "end it" either. It's easy to make a million promises before you're elected and then change your tune the second you're sworn in...ask ANY political figure.

We can't end it, we are there for the long haul. As soon as we pull out, the other middle eastern coutries and going to jump in.

 

[KitFisto]

We can't end it, we are there for the long haul. As soon as we pull out, the other middle eastern coutries and going to jump in.

I agree and that's why "Obama will end this war" is a load of crap. He may want to, but it's too a big a mess to "walk away from" anytime soon.

 

[hoodonit00]

If the Democrats are so much better than Republicans, why does the Democratically controlled congress have lower approval ratings than Bush?
If they are doing such a bang up job, wouldn't there be meaningful legislation instead of more pork barrel spending?
Do Reid and Pelosi do anything but bad mouth Bush and blame him for everything?
Does anyone remember that the Congress approved the war?
Bush is accused of being a warmonger because he ordered the invasion of a country that didn't attack us.
Woodrow Wilson did the same thing.
Roosevelt did the same thing.
Truman did the same thing.
Kennedy did the same thing.
They were all democrats.
Every military expert agrees that a quick withdrawal from Iraq will be disastrous but Obama doesn't care.
Is the world a better place without Saddam Hussein?
Are the Iraqi people better off free than under a tyrant?
What oil have we taken?
What oil did we take from Kuwait? (Same argument was used there.)

Lets look at the issues on the table:
The war
Gas prices
The housing market
Food prices

No one likes war. The point is that we are there. Do we finish it or do we retreat while we are winning? Or do you listen to the press? Everyday the front page read of how many soldiers died. When that number decreased, it got shoved to page 12. The cry was, THE WAR, THE WAR, THE WAR, until the war improved.
Gas prices are controlled by the demand of oil worldwide. What could have been done to prevent this? You need more oil which means more drilling. Who opposed more drilling? Wasn't Bush.

The housing market: Personal responsibility. You should know what you can afford. People gambled that under optimal conditions they could afford these new homes. Well they lost. Why should the rest of us that acted responsibly have to pay for those that didn't? If everyone paid an extra five dollars for clone wars Obi Wan 200 people could have him for free.

Food prices are tied to gas prices and the push for ethanol. Corn feeds people and livestock. When the land used to grow the corn is being used to grow corn for ethanol the prices rise.

I don't see where Bush is to blame.

Personally I think Bush stinks. He certainly isn't conservative, he has overspent like crazy.
I agree with his tax cuts because they result in higher government revenue. When you raise the taxes, those revenues go down. Like getting an hourly raise but then cutting back the amount of hours you can work.

How much hating of Bush is just blaming him for everything?

One more thing. McCain's quote is:
Maybe 100. We’ve been in South Korea… We’ve been in Japan for 60 years, we’ve been in South Korea for 50 years or so. That’d be fine with me, as long as Americans… as long as Americans are not being injured or harmed or wounded or killed. It’s fine with me, I hope it would be fine with you if we maintain a presence in a very volatile part of the world where al Qaeda is training, recruiting, equipping and motivating people every single day.

Great post.

 

[Agent0028]

Going back to Dusty's question of how things got so divisive, another reason is for some reason people find it easier to talk about all of the bad things about the current administration and/or opposing candidate instead of focusing on the positive about the current administration and/or candidate. There's so much attacking instead of just defending.

 

[hoodonit00]

Clearly the posting of someone who hasnt had a loved one killed in Iraq.

Lose someone close to you then get back to me on how you feel about W's war.

I am on another board where alot of people have served or are serving. The majority of those people believe in staying the course. These same people have lost people and still believe in there mission. I have read countless reports of people who have been there who are saying we are making headway in Iraq, that the media has it all wrong. I was just a chaperone at a school function where it was stated we were losing over 2000 soldier a WEEK in WW2. There are stories from parents, wives, loved ones who have lost loved ones who still support what our military is accomplishing over there. If you lost someone dear to you over there I am truly sorry, but I believe if we pull out we will be sending the wrong signal to terrorist. We have stood by far to long and tried the political approach, it didn't work.

 

[hoodonit00]

My father fought in WWII
My brother Jim in Viet Nam
I didn't pass my physical in '87 because of asthma or I would have been in desert storm.
I have a nephew that just did 4 tours in Iraq.
And I have been to 2 funerals of soldiers that died there.
So don't be so condescending.



Why is reenlistment up so high if these soldiers hate what they are doing?

Thank you so much for all that your family has sacrificed. And to all who have family serving, have lost loved ones, or have served themselves

 

[Captain Britain]

The last time Lucas achieved anything artistic of note, Obama was 19, so I'm not too bothered about him endorsing Obama. If the old has-been endorsed McCain I'd be worried.

That said, I've never even set foot in the US, so I probably shouldn't comment on US politics. However, what happens in the States affects everyone, and it looks like America is about to elect a naive appeaser, meaning that every part of the world is about to get much more dangerous.

I love the way the anti-war lobby call themselves 'peace campaigners'. Members of the military in democratic countries like the US and UK want peace just as much - the difference is, they're putting their lives on the line to try and achieve it.

 

[DarkArtist81]

I don't see a problem with change. Change is good, we need change in our country in this day and age. We need to better our healthcare system, we need to find alternative fuels, we need to stop waving our saber at every country that is Islamic just to satisfy our oil needs. Change is needed. I don't care how it happens, it just needs to happen.

As for the War issue. Everyone knows I am a veteran, I spilled my blood, sweat and tears for this country for my 4 years. I believe in this country, I still get teary when I hear the national anthem. Terrorists should be not be tolerated and we should keep up with our Special Forces campaigns to seek them out and obliterate them. BUT, invading Iraq as we did... without UN approval.. it was wrong. Plain and simple. Bush made that call, he pushed hard to get his way and used the wounded American spirit to get him there. I don't blame Bush for all of our problems, he isn't to blame for everything. But he knew what he was doing, he still did it. It's a move to gain control of more natural resources, it's happened many times in World history, that is all the war was about.

We can try to say it was our patriotic duty, that the suffering of the Iraqi people moved us to action. We can say that they were terrorists... but those lies cannot blind the people of this country to the fact that the entire War was just a play for oil. And that is entirely wrong, any administration that is willing to tarnish the American name and bloody our beloved flag for control over a few more oil fields... they do NOT have my support.

I know War can be necessary at times, and it's an unavoidable thing... But War should always be the last resort, and our logic and reason should go with us... not be left behind us. Mccain will just be an extension of Bush policies... no changes will be made. What good can come of that?

 

[bumblebee]

I don't see a problem with change. Change is good, we need change in our country in this day and age. We need to better our healthcare system, we need to find alternative fuels, we need to stop waving our saber at every country that is Islamic just to satisfy our oil needs. Change is needed. I don't care how it happens, it just needs to happen.

As for the War issue. Everyone knows I am a veteran, I spilled my blood, sweat and tears for this country for my 4 years. I believe in this country, I still get teary when I hear the national anthem. Terrorists should be not be tolerated and we should keep up with our Special Forces campaigns to seek them out and obliterate them. BUT, invading Iraq as we did... without UN approval.. it was wrong. Plain and simple. Bush made that call, he pushed hard to get his way and used the wounded American spirit to get him there. I don't blame Bush for all of our problems, he isn't to blame for everything. But he knew what he was doing, he still did it. It's a move to gain control of more natural resources, it's happened many times in World history, that is all the war was about.

We can try to say it was our patriotic duty, that the suffering of the Iraqi people moved us to action. We can say that they were terrorists... but those lies cannot blind the people of this country to the fact that the entire War was just a play for oil. And that is entirely wrong, any administration that is willing to tarnish the American name and bloody our beloved flag for control over a few more oil fields... they do NOT have my support.

I know War can be necessary at times, and it's an unavoidable thing... But War should always be the last resort, and our logic and reason should go with us... not be left behind us. Mccain will just be an extension of Bush policies... no changes will be made. What good can come of that?

GREAT POST!!!!

 

[bwills]

I don't see a problem with change. Change is good, we need change in our country in this day and age. We need to better our healthcare system, we need to find alternative fuels, we need to stop waving our saber at every country that is Islamic just to satisfy our oil needs. Change is needed. I don't care how it happens, it just needs to happen.

As for the War issue. Everyone knows I am a veteran, I spilled my blood, sweat and tears for this country for my 4 years. I believe in this country, I still get teary when I hear the national anthem. Terrorists should be not be tolerated and we should keep up with our Special Forces campaigns to seek them out and obliterate them. BUT, invading Iraq as we did... without UN approval.. it was wrong. Plain and simple. Bush made that call, he pushed hard to get his way and used the wounded American spirit to get him there. I don't blame Bush for all of our problems, he isn't to blame for everything. But he knew what he was doing, he still did it. It's a move to gain control of more natural resources, it's happened many times in World history, that is all the war was about.

We can try to say it was our patriotic duty, that the suffering of the Iraqi people moved us to action. We can say that they were terrorists... but those lies cannot blind the people of this country to the fact that the entire War was just a play for oil. And that is entirely wrong, any administration that is willing to tarnish the American name and bloody our beloved flag for control over a few more oil fields... they do NOT have my support.

I know War can be necessary at times, and it's an unavoidable thing... But War should always be the last resort, and our logic and reason should go with us... not be left behind us. Mccain will just be an extension of Bush policies... no changes will be made. What good can come of that?

DA - we DID have UN approval. That was the point of the 17 UN resolutions that Saddam ignored up until the end. The final resolution authorized military intervention if he did not comply.