1/6 Luke Skywalker: Red Five X-Wing Pilot Sixth Scale Figure

[Pixelpiper]

I mean if you cover up the awful eyes with your finger, the rest of the face looks pretty dead on.

They need tiny little colored contact lenses - been calling a bunch of optometrists all morning but I'm not sure I'm explaining it correctly, most of them hang up after 5 minutes.

 

[VintijDroidGutzz]

..then they started making those hideous bug-eyed sculpts. Thankfully the got rid of that now we're back to wonky ass paint.

 

[bbl]

Honestly, I still think the underlying sculpt looks pretty darn good here, and isn't really any more off than the HT Luke. It just needs a MUCH better paintjob is all.

I mean if you cover up the awful eyes with your finger, the rest of the face looks pretty dead on.

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[Darth Skywalker]

I love reading people with no business sense giving business advice! We need more of these kinds of comments directed toward Apple too - those guys obviously don't know how to price products either.

Because it's not as if Sideshow is responsible for selling the majority of Hot Toys figures globally that they might have some data/insight. When you're grasping at straws, reach for the pricing argument, it's classic.

Sideshow is not the Apple of action figures.

I like the Kia Sportage analogy, but I think of Sideshow being the base model Dodge Challenger, and Hot Toys being the Hellcat model. You wouldn't pay the same price for both. But Dodge is selling thousand more base model Challengers because of the lower price.

Anyways, I get that Luke didn't wear the Bespin belt in ANH, but that belt, holster and saber on the figure really looks great!

 

[Cocoboloboy]

The sculpt is what kills this figure plain and simple. On a figure that offers so little in every other department the sculpt needed to be a knockout to save it. The outfit is good but the fact that you have to hide the sculpt in the helmet for the figure to look decent or replace the sculpt means I (and I'm sure others) won't justify the purchase until the price drops significantly.

That's where I'm at on this. I bought the SS ESB Luke for under $200 with the plan to replace the sculpt with HT's but I'm not gonna get this unless I find it for cheap so that I can do the same.

 

[Darth Skywalker]

Put it this way -- I think a LOT of people would buy this figure for $150, including myself. $240, not so many.

 

[Pixelpiper]

Put it this way -- I think a LOT of people would buy this figure for $150, including myself.

Put it this way... I think EVEN MORE people would buy it for $100. And more still for $50. Hot Toys would have sold out of Tonto figures at $75. Can you imagine the line around the block for Stormtrooper two-packs at $88? Probably not as long as if they sold three-packs for $60.

Hold on a second. I have to make some phone calls. When industry finds out they can sell more goods by lowering prices, they're going to flip.

 

[Rorywan]

You should call Howard Chan with your suggestions. They are pretty inspiring and original.

 

[Jaymas]

Put it this way... I think EVEN MORE people would buy it for $100. And more still for $50. Hot Toys would have sold out of Tonto figures at $75. Can you imagine the line around the block for Stormtrooper two-packs at $88? Probably not as long as if they sold three-packs for $60.

Hold on a second. I have to make some phone calls. When industry finds out they can sell more goods by lowering prices, they're going to flip.

lol- obviously, but the question isn't how low they can make the price, but how high they can make it and still sell the product they produce in order to make a profit. If enough people don't buy it at the price they are asking they will have to decide to either lower it or, perhaps, they just stop making them because the profit margin isn't worth it. It is possible that even though a figure looks of lower quality that it may cost the same to produce as seemingly higher quality ones so the price may be set based on that - but even still, if the quality isn't something people want for that price they will have to figure out how to make it better, decide to lower the price, or get out of the game. Of course if people buy the figure for what they are asking then they will just keep doing what they are doing.

 

[Lordscum]

I must be a total moron then, because I'm going to sell the HT ANH sculpt just about as soon as I get it and plan to replace it with this one if a custom doesn't come around before then.

Yup I guess you are a moron! Actually not really, I do think that the SS sculpt does look better and would love to see it on the HT fig. I have taken a number of SS sculpts and with the help of a friend on the boards had them repainted and ported over to a knock off true type and the results have been spectacular. My friend does very, very good work and doesn't charge an arm and a leg for a repaint and is very collector friendly. I'm really looking forward to this figure arriving on Wednesday for me. I do like the boots on the HT Farm boy Luke and plan on using them on my SS custom farm boy Luke.

 

[Pixelpiper]

lol- obviously, but the question isn't how low they can make the price, but how high they can make it and still sell the product they produce in order to make a profit.

Exactly. Only they know that. And besides, if something is "terrible, crap, a turd that can't be polished" (etc.) then who care's about the price?

or get out of the game

They've been in the game long enough to know what they're doing - and no one here knows the specifics. Buy it if you want it, don't buy it if you don't - which is also about as obvious as it comes.

BTW, I'm definitely not buying it. But I do want the head.

 

[Mike86]

Put it this way -- I think a LOT of people would buy this figure for $150, including myself. $240, not so many.

That's on the low side but realistically there's no reason this should be priced higher than the Hoth Luke figure. That came with a decent amount of accessories and two headsculpts (three if you got the exclusive). Prices may have went up some degree but I think that a $40 increase wasn't warranted on this figure.

 

[Jaymas]

Exactly. Only they know that.

True, all we can speak too here is how we feel as a consumer in terms of if we think its worth what its priced. Without hard data, like actual sales records, I have no idea how many other consumers feel the same way that many have expressed here about it not being "worth" what they are charging.

They've been in the game long enough to know what they're doing - and no one here knows the specifics.

True, we can't pretend that we have all the information they do in terms of production costs, sales, ect. But we also can't pretend that sometimes companies that "know what they are doing" and have been doing it along time don't sometimes have failures, have to change, or go out of business. I'm not presuming to make any predictions about SS as a company, all I know is that I think for the same price HT figures look higher quality and this effects how I choose to spend my money.

Buy it if you want it, don't buy it if you don't - which is also about as obvious as it comes.

Or if you want it, buy it. If people like this figure and can enjoy it- great! They should get it regardless of what anyone else thinks.

BTW, I'm definitely not buying it. But I do want the head.

For your farmboy Luke right? cool- I'm happy with the HT one, but I am glad there is another option out there for those who may not be.

 

[Tesla619]

I've been collecting the HT Iron Man's and started on a few Star Wars, first one is the this, came in 2 days ago.

 

[TaliBane]

Thanks for the pics, Tesla! Jumpsuit really does look great. Hope it's okay I lightened your closer angle to see the headsculpt...

Eyes do look a little better there.

 

[Darkseed]

Thanks for the pics Tesla.....the "business lesson" talk was pretty stale.

 

[Tesla619]

Thanks for the pics Tesla.....the "business lesson" talk was pretty stale.

"Businesses lesson" ?

 

[Tesla619]

One other thing, the difference between exclusive and non and the price difference is this.

Exclusive: Right and Left Ungloved Hands with Bunched Flight Gloves for 'Pre/Post Flight' Display Option

I'm slightly disappointed they didn't do the hands better, mainly the gap between fingers.

 

[Mike86]

The outfit looks good overall. That sculpt though.. Just not impressed with it at all.

 

[Tesla619]

The outfit looks good overall. That sculpt though.. Just not impressed with it at all.

I agree , it doesn't look like the prototype when i bought this.